Prince Baeronius Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) FE4 and Awakening to my knowledge are the only two with marriage and children mechanics to my knowledge. The older FE did have romantic supports, but they were balanced by having a few platonic relationships between the opposite genders as well. But I suppose Awakening does allow that as well, but only if said two characters are already married to different people. What I'm saying is that it should be split again. Platonic relationships checkered throughout the cast... Including your siblings for clear reasons. The reason I can't see romance in this game is because of how it is set up. A lot of the major cast are your siblings, and the other characters come off as side characters. Awakening didn't do that, as it focused on a cast that was completely unrelated unless you used the marriage system. Minus Chrom and Lissa, no one else was related to them in anyway unless you used the mechanics to make others extended family. Fates seems to be different. We know there's a support system as the treehouse indicates, but that doesn't necessarily mean romance and S-supports are in. I kind of feel like they would be forced because they would be for the side cast. Even with adoptive siblings, Nintendo might not get away with such an excuse in America. A fully remade and translated Genealogy wouldn't be released here because of the exact themes that plague it. Edited June 17, 2015 by Prince Ardlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Griffin Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Part of me hopes there will be mainly because its going to f$%^& stupid to have this creepy face rubbing mechanic and nothing else. I may make jokes on it but really who was the piece of #$%# who thought this was a good idea God damn is it ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 FE4 and Awakening to my knowledge are the only two with marriage and children mechanics to my knowledge. The older FE did have romantic supports, but they were balanced by having a few platonic relationships between the opposite genders as well. But I suppose Awakening does allow that as well, but only if said two characters are already married to different people. What I'm saying is that it should be split again. Platonic relationships checkered throughout the cast... Including your siblings for clear reasons. The reason I can't see romance in this game is because of how it is set up. A lot of the major cast are your siblings, and the other characters come off as side characters. Awakening didn't do that, as it focused on a cast that was completely unrelated unless you used the marriage system. Minus Chrom and Lissa, no one else was related to them in anyway unless you used the mechanics to make others extended family. Fates seems to be different. We know there's a support system as the treehouse indicates, but that doesn't necessarily mean romance and S-supports are in. I kind of feel like they would be forced because they would be for the side cast. Even with adoptive siblings, Nintendo might not get away with such an excuse in America. A fully remade and translated Genealogy wouldn't be released here because of the exact themes that plague it. Am I the only one that strategically married the children to get the characters I liked in places of power? I married Lissa, Owain married Henry's Cynthia, Lucy married Laurent, Gerome married my Morgan, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Baeronius Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Nope. I did the same. Every playthrough they were in some position of power. Really, Awakening allows you to have almost half the cast related if you play your cards right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awakener_ Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Holy still nothing regarding the support system. God why are they so quiet about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite&Nepenthe Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Well, they've mentioned the support system, just not if there is marriage...but I know what you mean. It's tearing me apaaaaaaaart...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Griffin Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) Its the same as Awakening we at least know that. What that involves exactly I do not know..... Edited June 17, 2015 by Iron Griffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite&Nepenthe Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Maybe they exist? It was indirectly referenced in the more recent Tree House. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorMajora Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 They mentioned S supports in regards to awakening, but they made it sound like they weren't being taken out. I'm hopeful. I'm not sure why you guys give a damn about marriage. It's a pretty minor stipulation. They can still be romantic but I see no reason a ring has to be involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad_Scientist Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 They mentioned S supports in regards to awakening, but they made it sound like they weren't being taken out. I'm hopeful. I'm not sure why you guys give a damn about marriage. It's a pretty minor stipulation. They can still be romantic but I see no reason a ring has to be involved. I think a lot of people just use marriage as a shorthand for romantic supports, since that's how romantic supports were handled in Awakening, which had the biggest number of them. I myself would like romantic supports to exist, but I don't care if they actually get married during the game or if it's just mentioned in their epilogues like in past FE games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Griffin Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 True they should be called romantic supports rather than marriage since there were some none S-ranks in previous installments before Awakening took it up a notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownUber Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 With all the talk of Gender-Exclusive classes, part me sadly awaits the people using this as an arguement for Corrin's "Canon" Pairing. Also, I'll be sure to update the OP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Griffin Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordopolica Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 With all the talk of Gender-Exclusive classes, part me sadly awaits the people using this as an arguement for Corrin's "Canon" Pairing. Also, I'll be sure to update the OP I'm curious how this could be used as an argument for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Respite&Nepenthe Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Well, since they automatically give you the opposite gender servant, it could be construed as that, if you take homosexual preferences out of the equation - which is unfortunately likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownUber Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 I'm curious how this could be used as an argument for that? You can only get this unit if Avatar is male. Felicia is so canon! Really anyone can make a stupid argument like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordopolica Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Ohh, I see. I misunderstood because you said gender-exclusive classes instead of characters. Yeah, I can see that going down, but you get both anyway so I'm interested to see how you acquire the same-gendered one and if they're as loyal to you as they would be if you started with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorMajora Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Can you not get both Joker and felicia in one game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordopolica Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Can you not get both Joker and felicia in one game? There are some images of an F!Kamui and M!Kamui with Felicia and Joker respectively, so yes, I think eventually you do get both, it's just that you start with the opposite-gendered one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakaion Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) There are some images of an F!Kamui and M!Kamui with Felicia and Joker respectively, so yes, I think eventually you do get both, it's just that you start with the opposite-gendered one. I wonder why they decided to do that? It's interesting... It seems like a small difference without any significance to the overall story... Do you think there's more to it than just that, or is it simply for the sake of having your possible support interest immediately available to you? (assuming S ranks are indeed back) It sort of reminds me of Rune Factory 4's butler/maid characters, Vishnal and Clorica- both characters are there and you can increase friendship with them in the same way, but the one you start with and who primarily serves you is the one of the opposite gender. (marriage is also present in this game, of course) Edited June 18, 2015 by Nakaion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Griffin Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Hmmmmmmmm I didn't know you started with one in the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordopolica Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I wonder why they decided to do that? It's interesting... It seems like a small difference without any significance to the overall story... Do you think there's more to it than just that, or is it simply for the sake of having your possible support interest immediately available to you? (assuming S ranks are indeed back) It sort of reminds me of Rune Factory 4's butler/maid characters, Vishnal and Clorica- both characters are there and you can increase friendship with them in the same way, but the one you start with and who primarily serves you is the one of the opposite gender. (marriage is also present in this game, of course) Honestly I doubt it has anything to do with supports since it's likely Kamui can support with everyone, neither do I think it's romantic. I think it's just an inversion to parallel each other or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakaion Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Honestly I doubt it has anything to do with supports since it's likely Kamui can support with everyone, neither do I think it's romantic. I think it's just an inversion to parallel each other or something. Probably. I figured it was like that, but I'd like to think there was some deeper thing there. It's most likely just a way to have variety when playing with different Kamui's... Like Morgan in Awakening. At least this time you aren't restricted to having one or the other. EDIT: Apparently, there is an option in the menu to change your "helper", so either Joker/Jakob or Felicia will be the one who Kamui is guided by in My Castle- initially being the opposite gendered one and you will be able to change it if you desired. But I think outside of My Castle, the person who serves you won't change in the main story. Edited June 18, 2015 by Nakaion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Baeronius Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Hey, it's Unknownnuber! What's up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ107 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) The whole Joker/Felicia thing is particularly weird because from a servant/master perspective it should really be the other way around. Male Kamui should get the male personal servant and female Kamui should get the female one. I hope it doesn't set a precedent of limiting characters/character interactions based on Kamui's gender. Edited June 18, 2015 by EJ107 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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