Mutsugami Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Corrin_(Male)_(Cipher) http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Ryoma_(Cipher) http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Kagerou_(Cipher) http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Xander_(Cipher) http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Felicia_(Cipher) http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Corrin_(Female)_(Cipher) http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Lazward_(Cipher) Blam! Got all that done! If anyone would be willing to share any missing info (like names), that would be great! Lazward's first skill should be: Whenever this unit attacks, if there is an allied Xander on the battlefield, this unit gets +10 attack power until end of turn. It is an AUTO skill whereby it only starts checking for the presence of an aliied Xander on the battlefield WHEN Lazward attacks, not to be mistaken as a passive skill. the other cards' image quality are pretty blur to make out the wordings on the cards themselves, can't really interpret until a clearer image surfaces(most likely on the official twitter hopefully) I like to point out one term being defined/translated on wiki in a way I totally disagree with, i.e. 撃破 - Destroyed. Many of the cards with skills that has the term 撃破 is being translated by the wiki as "destroyed by/in battle". Firstly, the term 撃破 simply means Destroyed, no addition of under what situation/condition/circumstances. Secondly, units with straight kill effects like Camus, Gaius etc. as long as the skill's cost were paid and requirements met, the player gets to destroy whichever legal targets he chooses and this is a result of the skill NOT a result of any battle. Also, promoted Henry's CCS allows him to "suicide" which actually means he destroys himself and this is definitely NOT a result of battle. Thirdly, Pieri's first skill triggers whenever any unit gets destroyed, doesn't matter as a result of battle or skill(yeah she can combo with Henry somewhat). Lastly, the few skills that requires the unit itself to destroy an enemy unit through direct attack (such as Shiida. Navarre, Cordelia etc.) will instead have this phrase "このユニットの攻撃で敵を撃破した時" which means "When this unit's attack (successfully) destroyed an enemy unit". Only then a unit is required to be destroyed as a result of battle due to the addition of the phrase "このユニットの攻撃" which changes the requirements to specifically so. tl;dr Check for phrases that modifies the requirements of destroy methods, if not, it is just simply "destroyed" full stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewDisplayName Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I see no series 3 and 4 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKnightX Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Lazward's first skill should be: Whenever this unit attacks, if there is an allied Xander on the battlefield, this unit gets +10 attack power until end of turn. It is an AUTO skill whereby it only starts checking for the presence of an aliied Xander on the battlefield WHEN Lazward attacks, not to be mistaken as a passive skill. the other cards' image quality are pretty blur to make out the wordings on the cards themselves, can't really interpret until a clearer image surfaces(most likely on the official twitter hopefully) I like to point out one term being defined/translated on wiki in a way I totally disagree with, i.e. 撃破 - Destroyed. Many of the cards with skills that has the term 撃破 is being translated by the wiki as "destroyed by/in battle". Firstly, the term 撃破 simply means Destroyed, no addition of under what situation/condition/circumstances. Secondly, units with straight kill effects like Camus, Gaius etc. as long as the skill's cost were paid and requirements met, the player gets to destroy whichever legal targets he chooses and this is a result of the skill NOT a result of any battle. Also, promoted Henry's CCS allows him to "suicide" which actually means he destroys himself and this is definitely NOT a result of battle. Thirdly, Pieri's first skill triggers whenever any unit gets destroyed, doesn't matter as a result of battle or skill(yeah she can combo with Henry somewhat). Lastly, the few skills that requires the unit itself to destroy an enemy unit through direct attack (such as Shiida. Navarre, Cordelia etc.) will instead have this phrase "このユニットの攻撃で敵を撃破した時" which means "When this unit's attack (successfully) destroyed an enemy unit". Only then a unit is required to be destroyed as a result of battle due to the addition of the phrase "このユニットの攻撃" which changes the requirements to specifically so. tl;dr Check for phrases that modifies the requirements of destroy methods, if not, it is just simply "destroyed" full stop Well, that was how it was decided to be translated and I just followed what they decided on. Obviously, we need to return to this or one of them will need to explain why they went that route. It may seem like I'm shifting the blame here, but I really just follow what those peeps say.I will fix Lazward, though, as that makes sense. He's not as crazy now. I see no series 3 and 4 .Because none of those cards got revealed, just arts. I suppose Vincent can make banners, like he did for the other two, but I think it's still too early for that, as it isn't known if IK cards are gonna be the same colors as Nohr/Hoshido or a new color entirely and the color of PoR cards hasn't been revealed yet, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallsmyer Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 So I'm not sure how uploading images to the wiki works (at least with formatting) but we have a better rez pic for Cost 5 Ryoma courtesy of the official twitter. https://twitter.com/FEcipher/status/633246987941380097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKnightX Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 Just click on the Ryoma image and go to the option of replacing the image. It'll keep the name, while updating all uses of the image on the wiki. Be sure the image you upload is PNG, like the image is on the wiki. If you don't know how to do that, right-click the image, click "edit", and then go to "file" "save as" and click "PNG". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallsmyer Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Hmmm, it keeps reuploading the same picture you were using. Do I have to change the destination file name? Oh bugger. This is giving me more trouble than it should. :V Edited August 17, 2015 by Fallsmyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuvillo Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Not sure I like the new way to list the Supports. It seems like a longer way to list basic game rules in every card text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKnightX Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Hmmm, it keeps reuploading the same picture you were using. Do I have to change the destination file name? Oh bugger. This is giving me more trouble than it should. :V Well, it is properly up now, as I can see. Issue is, is that he's 006, not 005, as I thought he was. Any way to rename the file? I don't see it. Yeah, sorry about that, but I had to guess 5 or 6 and looks like I guessed wrong lol. I have a feeling a coupleof the other cards I uploaded are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutsugami Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Since a clearer Kagerou card image is revealed by the official twitter today, Kagerou's Attack Support Skill - Ninja's Emblem states that if you discard a card from your hand, at the end of the battle, instead of putting her card into the discard pile, deploy her onto the battlefield in action completed state(in other words, tapped)Also, cost 5 Ryoma's second skill is to choose a cost 2 or below Hoshido unit from the Discard Pile area, not from the player's hand. Edited August 18, 2015 by Mutsugami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKnightX Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Alright, I will fix both now (I'll upload the Kagero pic soon, as I cannot do that now), but I would like another set of translators' eyes on those, just to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuvillo Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Felicia doesn't have her card name listed at the moment, and Xander doesn't have his correct second skill. (Unless that translation turned out to be inccorect) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKnightX Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 I assume you're talking about SR Xander? If so, I don't quite see the issue. All I can see is that they are worded differently, but still the same effect. As for Felicia, I just forgot to give her her name when I first saw her name translated. Sorry about that and it has since been fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutsugami Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I assume you're talking about SR Xander? If so, I don't quite see the issue. All I can see is that they are worded differently, but still the same effect. As for Felicia, I just forgot to give her her name when I first saw her name translated. Sorry about that and it has since been fixed. Nope, SR Xander's 2nd skill is "When this unit class changes" instead of "When another unit class changes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaka Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) Hey FutureknightX, are you going to update this page http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php?title=Booster_Set_2:_Soulful_Flames_of_Light_and_Dark&action=edit&redlink=1with the cards? Because right now I can't find a wat to see a list of the 2nd booster cards. Also Well, that was how it was decided to be translated and I just followed what they decided on. Obviously, we need to return to this or one of them will need to explain why they went that route. It may seem like I'm shifting the blame here, but I really just follow what those peeps say.I will fix Lazward, though, as that makes sense. He's not as crazy now.Because none of those cards got revealed, just arts. I suppose Vincent can make banners, like he did for the other two, but I think it's still too early for that, as it isn't known if IK cards are gonna be the same colors as Nohr/Hoshido or a new color entirely and the color of PoR cards hasn't been revealed yet, either. Lazward's first skill should be: Whenever this unit attacks, if there is an allied Xander on the battlefield, this unit gets +10 attack power until end of turn.It is an AUTO skill whereby it only starts checking for the presence of an aliied Xander on the battlefield WHEN Lazward attacks, not to be mistaken as a passive skill.the other cards' image quality are pretty blur to make out the wordings on the cards themselves, can't really interpret until a clearer image surfaces(most likely on the official twitter hopefully)I like to point out one term being defined/translated on wiki in a way I totally disagree with, i.e. 撃破 - Destroyed. Many of the cards with skills that has the term 撃破 is being translated by the wiki as "destroyed by/in battle".Firstly, the term 撃破 simply means Destroyed, no addition of under what situation/condition/circumstances.Secondly, units with straight kill effects like Camus, Gaius etc. as long as the skill's cost were paid and requirements met, the player gets to destroy whichever legal targets he chooses and this is a result of the skill NOT a result of any battle. Also, promoted Henry's CCS allows him to "suicide" which actually means he destroys himself and this is definitely NOT a result of battle.Thirdly, Pieri's first skill triggers whenever any unit gets destroyed, doesn't matter as a result of battle or skill(yeah she can combo with Henry somewhat).Lastly, the few skills that requires the unit itself to destroy an enemy unit through direct attack (such as Shiida. Navarre, Cordelia etc.) will instead have this phrase "このユニットの攻撃で敵を撃破した時" which means "When this unit's attack (successfully) destroyed an enemy unit". Only then a unit is required to be destroyed as a result of battle due to the addition of the phrase "このユニットの攻撃" which changes the requirements to specifically so.tl;dr Check for phrases that modifies the requirements of destroy methods, if not, it is just simply "destroyed" full stop Mutsugami's TLs are correct.Personally I translate "このユニットの攻撃で敵を撃破した時" as 'when this unit destroys an enemy unit during battle', and 撃破 as just 'destroyed'. Due to the very big difference (particularly with this newest set) in 'destroy' and 'destroy by this unit's attack/when this unit destroys an enemy unit during battle', I hope the source of you translations can correct their own translations before people start playing and play with all the wrong effect. Edited September 18, 2015 by Nanaka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuvillo Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 If you play Lackey, you can check if my personal way to write card effects might be wrong in places. I think so far we can differentiate with just "Destroyed" and "Destroyed by an attack". Effects that "Destroy by battle" don't matter because there's nothing that activates on being destroyed by battle but not by being destroyed by an effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureKnightX Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 The list needs titles for the cards. I don't know the names for at least half of them. I can do without, but it would make the process much easier to finish if I start with them. Also, a clean image of the nation symbols would be nice. Here are all the images so anyone can help giving me the names of the cards: http://serenesforest.net/wiki/index.php/Series_2_Card_Gallery Also, some aren't translated, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallsmyer Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Finally starting to get a little free time to update the wiki. Are we agreed the cards should be listed by card number order as booster > starter > promo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel237157 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Shouldnt we update the white cards? there are a lot of missing cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubergine Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I could probably fill in all the rest of the missing cards with the translations from my personal project if you all are alright with my translation work. I finished up the whole set a few days ago, but I haven't wanted to step in on anyone else's work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxasofmalice Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Sorry I havent made any pages recently. When I made the black cards I didnt have as much College Work as I do now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuvillo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 There's a few errors that basically everyone has just been going with so far. CorrinM4: Only works from frontline, only on your turn, and only on other units. Ryoma5: You need 4 OTHER white units. Lazward4: Can only untap units that were tapped for his own cost. Overall: "Allies" applies to all your cards, "Other allies" refers to everything except that card, and there's a lot of cards that need rewriting because of it. (Cherche, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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