Dunal Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Do note that a forged thunder tome would still give them an okay 2 range option. Otherwise they're just locked out of magic triangle control, which isn't too detrimental. High DEF / bad RES just means they have better things to do than fight other magi. Giving them access to other types takes away their distinctness. I'd have to weaken their strengths to balance for that which may end up not making them much different from other mages. Thaumaturgy are miracle workers by definition, so I'd thought it would fit fairly well. Same with Shaman in some different context (more relevance than GBA shaman for instance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mister Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Out of curiosity: Do druids not have any animation for staves, or does the game assign them the kickass floaty Summoner (Izuka) animation if given a staff rank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Lord Sigma Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Do note that a forged thunder tome would still give them an okay 2 range option. Otherwise they're just locked out of magic triangle control, which isn't too detrimental. High DEF / bad RES just means they have better things to do than fight other magi. Giving them access to other types takes away their distinctness. I'd have to weaken their strengths to balance for that which may end up not making them much different from other mages. Thaumaturgy are miracle workers by definition, so I'd thought it would fit fairly well. Same with Shaman in some different context (more relevance than GBA shaman for instance. I suppose one could just think of Thunder as the Hand Axe/Javelin for Thunder magic. Come to think of it, I probably feel that way only because the playable parts of this version of the hack thus far don't really go far enough into the game to see how Ilyana functions as a Thor Knight. Edited January 30, 2016 by Elite Lord Sigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunal Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Ilyana gains +5 DEF on promotion. She has the highest defense in the entire game aside from Brom. That should tell how you how she functions. Her offence is shaky though and she's reliant on crits. I do like Wrath on her. Her main worry is avoiding magic weapons. Both dark weapons and wind swords have WTA on her and she's especially at risk of boing doubled by anyone using the latter. But, she also has free Shade, which means enemies will often not target her even with that. As for Druids? I've never gave them a staff so idk. That said, I've found that the game can crash fairly often if any class is given an animation they're not supposed to have (outside of magic types). So for units like Astrid she has no animation with them as it stands -- it's not worth it. Which is fine since it's staves. It would only matter if you counter attack with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintales Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 > Lyre > Joining in 3-1 I like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Lord Sigma Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Ilyana gains +5 DEF on promotion. She has the highest defense in the entire game aside from Brom. That should tell how you how she functions. Her offence is shaky though and she's reliant on crits. I do like Wrath on her. Her main worry is avoiding magic weapons. Both dark weapons and wind swords have WTA on her and she's especially at risk of boing doubled by anyone using the latter. But, she also has free Shade, which means enemies will often not target her even with that. As for Druids? I've never gave them a staff so idk. That said, I've found that the game can crash fairly often if any class is given an animation they're not supposed to have (outside of magic types). So for units like Astrid she has no animation with them as it stands -- it's not worth it. Which is fine since it's staves. It would only matter if you counter attack with it. Ah, I see. With Thunder magic not having awful hit like it does in vanilla FERD, I could definitely see Vantage/Wrath working well on her, assuming that there's enough capacity for both skills to be equipped. I take it that her weakness to magic weapons means that magic weapons will actually show up often enough to be worth taking into consideration. As for new weapon animations, Astrid's existing animations for attacking with a lance would probably be fine if you could somehow substitute the staff in for the lance, or you could try to use Mist's animations as a base and apply them to Astrid's model. Then again, I'm no modeler, animator, or programmer, so I wouldn't know how much effort this would actually take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunal Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 > Lyre > Joining in 3-1 I like that. A lot of availability has changed. Tauroneo is deployable in every map after 1-6. There will be dialogue changes to reflect that. Obviously, he's balanced accordingly -- his base stats are pretty low for his level (level 4 general) but growths are great. Jill and Fiona are usable in 1-8. Also helps that Fiona can actually move in the marsh now too (5 movement cost which means Fiona can actually move through 2 tiles at the time). Lyre/Lethe from 3-1 onwards. The tigers usable in 3-5. The cats are still absent. All crimeans usable in 3-10. Amongst a few other changes. Increased deployment slots to accommodate all of this. As for new weapon animations, Astrid's existing animations for attacking with a lance would probably be fine if you could somehow substitute the staff in for the lance, or you could try to use Mist's animations as a base and apply them to Astrid's model. Then again, I'm no modeler, animator, or programmer, so I wouldn't know how much effort this would actually take. Tried something like this but there are issues with it. Magic weapons are fairly common. 2/5 enemies target RES overall. And that's certainly a buff to units with good RES. As a heads up, release will likely not be tomorrow (I am ill and won't be finishing it up tomorrow). I would expect next weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Lord Sigma Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 (edited) I thought of something else related to magic weapons. Let's say that a Wind Edge goes up against a Venin Axe. The former has an advantage as a sword against an axe, but the latter has an advantage as a dark weapon against an anima weapon. How exactly do the triangle bonuses and penalties work in a situation like that? Edited January 31, 2016 by Elite Lord Sigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Pelleas Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 The availablity changes looks realy nice,especialy theRoyal Knights being playable in 3-10(The Heart of Crimea).I have another question(Sorry to be bothering on the last ones,I am new at these hacking,modding stuff).Will any clean map be changed into a Fog of war/Night chapter??The fog of wars chapters tend to annoy most of the players,but they are a great addition and introduce a new gameplay style,instead of rushing like most of the players do. And what about the Shade for Rolf to be a different play style while using him instead of Shinon?. Keep up the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaX128 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Any updates on current progress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Lord Sigma Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Any updates on current progress? As a heads up, release will likely not be tomorrow (I am ill and won't be finishing it up tomorrow). I would expect next weekend. Edited February 5, 2016 by Elite Lord Sigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunal Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have it ready for today either. Been very busy lately with other things. I still need to do some further test runs to make sure nothing is broken (Like Danved). I could release it but not until everything is checked. Speaking of which: NOT DEVDAN Weird? Yup. Good? You bet. Being that Nephenee and Aran fit their archetypes well, I had to do something interesting with this guy to make him stand out, rather than just being the boring in-between of the former two. So... this is how it's ended up! Pretty much all of the Crimean knights are super interesting though, due to their lack of screen-time. The important thing is to just make them stand out and be useful in their own way. Granted, the amount of EXP you receive in 2-3 and 3-9 is going way up as well (Even Geoff gets 40+ per kill). So I'll have to keep my eye on them... Edited February 7, 2016 by DLuna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mister Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Today's the last day this week I can Wiitest for you, so send se something if you want the crashes investigated (and don't forged to OP Micahia to speed things up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troykv Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have it ready for today either. Been very busy lately with other things. I still need to do some further test runs to make sure nothing is broken (Like Danved). I could release it but not until everything is checked. Speaking of which: NOT DEVDAN Weird? Yup. Good? You bet. Being that Nephenee and Aran fit their archetypes well, I had to do something interesting with this guy to make him stand out, rather than just being the boring in-between of the former two. So... this is how it's ended up! Pretty much all of the Crimean knights are super interesting though, due to their lack of screen-time. The important thing is to just make them stand out and be useful in their own way. Granted, the amount of EXP you receive in 2-3 and 3-9 is going way up as well (Even Geoff gets 40+ per kill). So I'll have to keep my eye on them... That HP, that Luck Growth... wow Edited February 8, 2016 by Troykv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside-DownFish Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 That's one way to break away from archetypes. Kinda glad to see his high magic actually able to be put to use this time around. Having him torch everything with the Flame Lance in PoR was always fun, let's see how well he compares here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Pelleas Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Danved surely looks interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mister Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Is it beneficial at all for him to start with an S-rank, being a tier 2 unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fathomite Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Well, his availability isn't that great, since he comes in at part 2 and you only get him back late part 3. It'll be nice to only have to worry about grinding one rank out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fathomite Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) Hey DLuna, how goes the testing? Do you think it might be possible for the next release to happen this week? Not trying to rush you, I'm just really looking forward to it and was hoping for some news to help with my excitement. ^^ I'm really curious to see how you're handling Haar, and if he ends up being as infamous as the base game. XD Edit: Crud, I didn't realize that I'd made the last post in this thread. My b. Edited February 16, 2016 by Fathomite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Lord Sigma Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 So, Danved's the one who stole Meg's former Luck growth. Those STR and SPD bases look tasty, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 6 def what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fathomite Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 6 def what 84 HP tho. As a level 7 Halberdier. Plus, he's guaranteed to cap luck. 45 luck paired with the changes to biorhythm is going to give him ridiculous avoid. Even his base strength/speed are godlike, so he'll have great AS to add onto the avoid formula. Now that I think about it, he actually sounds kinda op LOL. I suppose it makes sense, given his availability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Mister Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Devdnan no likes fighting, so Devdan no defends himself, but takes hit in face like a champ without dropping smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 84 HP tho. As a level 7 Halberdier. Plus, he's guaranteed to cap luck. 45 luck paired with the changes to biorhythm is going to give him ridiculous avoid. Even his base strength/speed are godlike, so he'll have great AS to add onto the avoid formula. Now that I think about it, he actually sounds kinda op LOL. I suppose it makes sense, given his availability. oh didnt see the HP thats really weird actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fathomite Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 DLuna, will the next release still be in February? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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