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Even Zero's skinship lines push the limit mainly this one (attached pic):

"Even if you cry and scream, I won't stop."

In fact, a notable few of the male S-rank skinship lines say something along the lines of "you can't complain about what I'll do to you now."

While I won't pretend the West is perfect when it comes to power dynamics and sexual responsibility, we certainly have a healthier view of it than Japanese pop culture in many ways. It's a social and cultural difference and it won't fly here. Those lines don't need to be "censored," they need to be fixed.

I'm all for changing the rape-y supports. While they are at it, maybe they can do something about the handful of characters who have a personality that doesn't go much deeper than "sadistic homicidal maniac"?

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Even Zero's skinship lines push the limit mainly this one (attached pic):

"Even if you cry and scream, I won't stop."

In fact, a notable few of the male S-rank skinship lines say something along the lines of "you can't complain about what I'll do to you now."

While I won't pretend the West is perfect when it comes to power dynamics and sexual responsibility, we certainly have a healthier view of it than Japanese pop culture in many ways. It's a social and cultural difference and it won't fly here. Those lines don't need to be "censored," they need to be fixed.

I'm all for changing the rape-y supports. While they are at it, maybe they can do something about the handful of characters who have a personality that doesn't go much deeper than "sadistic homicidal maniac"?

I agree.Despite the fact I love Zero and all that lewd stuff since it is very much so a part of his character, I do think some of his lines do need to get really toned down.

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I'm sure there will be change because of the amie system, right now amie allow to feel up the body of the characters and I'm pretty sure that in most country feeling up a body is seen as a sexual act and with children like elise, sakura, lutz....

I don't think Nintendo wants to have problem with the law and be know as the game company who makes games where you can feel up the bodies of children, marry them and have children with them.

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I don't think Nintendo wants to have problem with the law and be know as the game company who makes games where you can feel up the bodies of children, marry them and have children with them.

Kinda late for that lol

Anyway, I was thinking about it, and now I kinda want NoA to go the other direction and just embrace all of it. Just keep all the groping and incest, and the jail bat wait in, and present it in a satiracal manner. Use humor to soften the blow and make the side stuff (like supports and amie) a joke of itself. I think they are good enough to be able to make it sound somewhat natural, while hanging a light atmosphere of self awareness. That just might turn this game from a controversial mess to something amazing.

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Kinda late for that lol

Anyway, I was thinking about it, and now I kinda want NoA to go the other direction and just embrace all of it. Just keep all the groping and incest, and the jail bat wait in, and present it in a satiracal manner. Use humor to soften the blow and make the side stuff (like supports and amie) a joke of itself. I think they are good enough to be able to make it sound somewhat natural, while hanging a light atmosphere of self awareness. That just might turn this game from a controversial mess to something amazing.

Hate to be a party pooper here, but I don't think Fire Emblem is the kind of game for that, nor do I think Intelligent System has the writing skills to make that tolerable, not to mention it would come across as incredibly hypocritical after Fates.

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Hate to be a party pooper here, but I don't think Fire Emblem is the kind of game for that, nor do I think Intelligent System has the writing skills to make that tolerable, not to mention it would come across as incredibly hypocritical after Fates.

I'm talking about the localization team doing that TO Fates, not after. Not to mention Fates already does some things Awakening was mocking. Such as being a lolicon or lusting after your sibling.This game does both at the same time.

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I'm talking about the localization team doing that TO Fates, not after. Not to mention Fates already does some things Awakening was mocking. Such as being a lolicon or lusting after your sibling.This game does both at the same time..

Ah, I see.

So...will all the amie lines break the fourth wall?

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Maybe not break, just sorta... lean, maybe. Or at least let there be more passive aggressive calling out Kamui on how creepy they are.

That's already in the game though. Kazahana wonders what she's supposed to do when he's just petting her without saying anything.

Besides, wouldn't it be a bit strange to joke about marrying young girls and then...actually marry young girls?

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Kinda late for that lol

Anyway, I was thinking about it, and now I kinda want NoA to go the other direction and just embrace all of it. Just keep all the groping and incest, and the jail bat wait in, and present it in a satiracal manner. Use humor to soften the blow and make the side stuff (like supports and amie) a joke of itself. I think they are good enough to be able to make it sound somewhat natural, while hanging a light atmosphere of self awareness. That just might turn this game from a controversial mess to something amazing.

or that will make a controversial mess and we will never see FE in the west, feeling up a child's body is close to child pornography, do you really think that you can sell something like that in the US and EU,do you really think people will accept a joke out of it, right now the game is out only in Japon so there is no problem, I don't know the law in the US and most of the EU about something like that but if the game is seen has child pornographie, you can be sure that store will stop selling it and Nintendo of america/europe will have more problem than a simple controversial mess.

to most people here, the amie system is just the "classic otaku culture" but to the rest of the world, what do you think it will look like?

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That's already in the game though. Kazahana wonders what she's supposed to do when he's just petting her without saying anything.

Besides, wouldn't it be a bit strange to joke about marrying young girls and then...actually marry young girls?

That's child's play Thane. You're thinking too small. We need Lazward crying about being manhandled, characters complaining about being treated as pets while some mysterious force keeps them from leaving.

It would be strange/hypocritical for IS to do something like that. The Treehouse didn't write the game and put lolicon in it, so if they're feeling ballsy enough, they can mock the whole thing, even if they can't stop it from happening.

Zero: Elize, I decided that I'm sexually into kids, I want you to marry me.

Elize: You want me to marry you? But aren't I too young for you?

Zero: You know what they say: why put off for 10 years what you can do while she's 10?

Elize: That's a saying? That sounds awfully specific. But okay, I'll marry you

Zero: Thank you. I promise to love you until I die of old age, so I guess around the time you hit 30. Now let's make a baby.

Elize: Now? Why?

Zero: Hey, I'm not getting any younger, and I don't think you could possibly BE any younger. Makes perfect sense to me.

Elize: Not to me!

Zero: What you do you know? You're a child.

Zero and Elize achieved S-rank

This is all wishfull thinking off course, unless someone like me was in charge of all of Nintendo, it couldn't happen in a million years lol

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or that will make a controversial mess and we will never see FE in the west, feeling up a child's body is close to child pornography, do you really think that you can sell something like that in the US and EU,do you really think people will accept a joke out of it, right now the game is out only in Japon so there is no problem, I don't know the law in the US and most of the EU about something like that but if the game is seen has child pornographie, you can be sure that store will stop selling it and Nintendo of america/europe will have more problem than a simple controversial mess.

to most people here, the amie system is just the "classic otaku culture" but to the rest of the world, what do you think it will look like?

Have you seen the Vita's Library? This is like, nothing. The game can come over, as is, and will be an M rated game at worst.

You can really make anything into a joke if you are good enough. That's not the same as everyone finding it funny of course. I've gotten people to laugh at some pretty messed up stuff. I made fun of a girl's weight right to her face and made her laugh. It's all about timing and presentation

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or that will make a controversial mess and we will never see FE in the west, feeling up a child's body is close to child pornography, do you really think that you can sell something like that in the US and EU,do you really think people will accept a joke out of it, right now the game is out only in Japon so there is no problem, I don't know the law in the US and most of the EU about something like that but if the game is seen has child pornographie, you can be sure that store will stop selling it and Nintendo of america/europe will have more problem than a simple controversial mess.

to most people here, the amie system is just the "classic otaku culture" but to the rest of the world, what do you think it will look like?

Probably the same as marrying Nowi in Awakening, it will go mostly unnoticed. Except we'll actually have people here acting like surrogate soccer moms and being outraged on behalf of those who don't even realise the game exists.

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I know the vita library, but how many games on it allow you to feel up a children's body and have a child with them,it may not be a M that this game will have but a AO(adult only) which isn't allow on console.

this wouldn't be the first time a game would lose a feacture because to avoid a AO, for exemple mugen soul.

and yes you can make anything into a joke,I can't judge you about it because I also laught at messed up thing, but like you say not everyone will find it funny, and I wouldn't call making fun of someone weight something messed up and it isn't comparable to feeling up a child body, so it's a bad exemple

and it doesn't matter if you think it is ok or if I think it is ok to leave the game like this, it's what people will think that is important, or to be more precise what the localisation team think.

I'm sure they think a lot about it because I'm sure none of them want to lose their job if this game become controversial.

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Tomodachi life sold a couple million more than what Fates will and has this same feature and is a game where the characters can be based on real people. It's a game rated 3 and up here in the UK.

The idea this is really controversial is seems extremely forced. A set few don't like it and are trying to have a field day stretching implications as far as they possibly can or outright lying. to the point I've seen claims on this forum that you can grope the breasts and vaginas of the female characters during amie.

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Tomodachi life sold several times what Fates will and has this same feature and is a game where the characters can be based on real people. It's a game rated 3 and up here in the UK.

The idea this is really controversial is seems extremely forced. A set few don't like it and are trying to have a field day stretching implications as far as they possibly can.

FE has characters that are treated as human beings in universe. Tomodachi life has miis

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FE has characters that are treated as human beings in universe. Tomodachi life has miis

Most Miis are based on real people infact the 3DS and WiiU encourage you to use the camera to make Miis based on a taking picture of a person or yourself. FE has characters who are your pawns during gameplay, they're more like game pieces.

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Tomodachi life sold a couple million more than what Fates will and has this same feature and is a game where the characters can be based on real people. It's a game rated 3 and up here in the UK.

The idea this is really controversial is seems extremely forced. A set few don't like it and are trying to have a field day stretching implications as far as they possibly can or outright lying. to the point I've seen claims on this forum that you can grope the breasts and vaginas of the female characters during amie.

This is really my opinion in a nutshell. People are spreading a lot of misinformation about this game elsewhere on the webz. (remember that rumor about Sakura in the story?) I could go on a full blown rant about how fucking censor happy people are, but ill spare you.....this time. <.<

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