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I'd like to start an archive for tournament decklists. I see a lot of people sort of lost on what works and what doesn't, so I hope this will give a good overview.
 
I'll sort them by Main Character being used. Note that some Japanese tournaments can be like 3~5 people, so not all of them will be optimized, just good guidelines.
 
 
Feel free to discuss any of them! (And you can send me anything I haven't included)
 
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Set 1 & 2 Metagame:

Spoiler

Caeda:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRFSf6aUcAEiQx5.jpg:large

Chrom:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRbk6BNUYAALUwD.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRWz_IFUsAAWMrc.jpg

Corrin (Male):
http://flipapicture.com/uploaded_images/090536_CorrinWhiteRed.jpg
https://twitter.com/Akibagrapan/status/652804665285808128

Corrin (Female):
http://imgur.com/oKYxBh5
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTDJQTEVAAAItem.jpg

Effie:
http://imgur.com/TpyjzMK
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRCE4wvVAAATWHO.jpg:large

Hana:
http://imgur.com/P6Yr0jK

Henry:
http://imgur.com/qZRoD1d

Hinoka:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSex_hyVAAAfsOr.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CStUSC3VEAAlk7K.jpg:large

Inigo:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ew3n3773ia4xp0v/Schermafdruk 2015-10-09 18.24.23.png
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-57js91a-nhc/VZxoHsYdbtI/AAAAAAAAPcM/iFzY7Q1e3TA/s1600/CI_zSMHUsAAp4Rv.jpg%2Blarge.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRg7N87UsAAHHMd.jpg

Lissa:
http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/v84i28hesgi53wf/Schermafdruk 2015-10-09 18.14.05.png
http://i.imgur.com/1Pv50iI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hwot4Xm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xvySy3b.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRg6hcuUsAAPnBn.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUAw5wZU8AAKj0o.jpg

Lucina/Marth:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CStzruWUYAIPl-h.jpg:large

Marth:
http://imgur.com/BpY2tv8

Navarre:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRBEIjfUYAApbhq.jpg

Oboro:
http://imgur.com/19veUzL
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSK7hIeVAAABFT3.jpg

Ophelia:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQX56wkU8AAmOoK.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVhjcsjUAAAimgF.jpg:large

Owain:
http://imgur.com/cpq8Tgr

Peri:
http://imgur.com/n0JLkXZ
http://imgur.com/ZvSkGKG

Rinkah:
http://imgur.com/DCjxg5y

Ryoma:
http://imgur.com/cZ9qMxj
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSFDCyvVAAAfiev.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTxsoDFUAAAJ-j6.jpg:large

Severa:
http://imgur.com/UXaLMOc

Soleil:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ9AuMcVAAADFML.jpg

Tiki:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wyQYwLeQa5M/VZyiUt_0frI/AAAAAAAAPdw/XEKrQ8lwcYk/s1600/CJJhBxDUsAAPkof.jpg%2Blarge.jpg

Tharja:
http://imgur.com/468hUyF

Xander:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ9sw-wVAAAuKvX.jpg

Set 3 Metagame:

Spoiler

Asugi:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWwKUVcUEAAwjAG.jpg


Azura:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWplavuUsAAW4Kg.jpg
http://blog-imgs-86.fc2.com/k/i/z/kizunafe0/20151219212251811.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYHxHMUUQAAhH1E.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY5RJAHVAAAonNu.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CalF6lFUUAAhzBD.jpg:large


Corrin (Female):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWqJ-VHUEAEPD7x.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWwch7BUsAEeEM3.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXtbHb-UQAAPIeM.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXekw1eUMAQTc1C.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYQoB_aU0AAQPrw.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYWVbHQVAAAsCKM.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY1d9K2VAAAj4Q_.jpg

Corrin (Male):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY1uPHmUkAEIqBa.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ9-8ObUYAATwWW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ9t389UkAASb8o.jpg

Elise:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZpJ1TdWQAEfUj3.jpg:large

Ike:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWL0FBPUsAIC352.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWLjg0_VAAAlKzi.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZU7mp6U8AA_HQ3.jpg

Inigo:
http://blog-imgs-86.fc2.com/k/i/z/kizunafe0/2015122619463862f.jpg

Kaze:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV3NFi4UAAA6MYG.jpg

Lissa:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcX8O4hVIAA12ey.jpg

Mia:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXyQ3ioU0AA11TD.jpg:large

Marth:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYRn9VcUsAAilcn.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZe5zRmUcAE0PY7.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cahwvm2UsAASXCU.jpg:large

Nephenee:
http://blog-imgs-86.fc2.com/k/i/z/kizunafe0/2016011223290708a.jpg

Peri:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYHOJWSVAAA6bvT.jpg:large

Ranulf:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV3L_JHUwAAOJRA.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWvhBSfVAAAaZpx.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW46009VAAAw1Es.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXy03-2VAAAslgB.jpg:large

Selkie:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWGgtIuUkAEPU6j.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXNAdiBUAAEcARZ.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY1dqrMUAAABNsl.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY1po6PUoAAutBa.jpg:large


Severa:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcN_J0TUAAAzc84.jpg:large

Silas:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcDlkAnUAAAr39M.jpg:large

Soleil:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZZ58k7UkAAuerS.jpg:large

Soren:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWBp8ItUEAAUdWS.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWWN3BjUkAQK3ut.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXEs4YgU0AQR_Qo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXt1u-xUAAA_-jz.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYhEL4YUsAE9q3E.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CY1gHDHU0AAS9vC.jpg

Tharja:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV3OzB4VEAE3kHp.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZFGp5qUYAE2XWN.jpg:large

Velouria:
http://blog-imgs-86.fc2.com/k/i/z/kizunafe0/20151216200311790.jpg

Xander:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZGHockU8AAxknA.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZGHockU8AAxknA.jpg:large

Set 4 Metagame:

 
Spoiler

Chrom:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj3qV-rVEAIH_cI.jpg:large

Corrin (Female):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfkfSRDUAAASw7v.jpg

Elise:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfCLoSQUsAA1zIR.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg9sA2NW4Acc5er.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjN7XekVAAA6HhT.jpg:large

Hardin:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeJvZcGUMAAUBJ2.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CefDSdOWEAA6tLL.jpg

Ike:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgK7GoKUIAIdwEF.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiFpNgSUUAAj-xi.jpg:large

Inigo:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfwcOdfVIAArmNL.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce9fGwpUkAAFTRl.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgKd7TwVAAAL_os.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CguK5bJUgAAGgdp.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChGQl5kU4AAhRnC.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChVyPvFUkAAxw4Y.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChSjWeYUYAAu2Il.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cikk1-AVEAAo5FH.jpg:large

Itsuki:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgUmdhJUMAUUBqK.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch26rILUUAAqOVk.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CipDMyoUoAAh1qv.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkHK9KSVAAAKOWC.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkV8m3BUgAAAZ2q.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck_lL_gUYAAPpnD.jpg

Kiria:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkGAD6xVAAI3m7t.jpg:large

Lissa:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd5O4k2VAAEcCvK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xPDRM71.jpg?1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch2l3S_UYAAzxS5.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch2g3eRUoAAi-qY.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cian2_KU4AEeo2p.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjIuQRcUYAEeKAM.jpg

Lucina:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd0YEVBUkAACdb_.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd6P4V4UIAA0bzf.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgKgK5fVAAEjlGZ.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgPRJMKVIAEGnNT.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgfPuMxUYAA0wwL.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgFbtqxUEAAnKOi.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgzAN6eUgAAb0D7.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch2v-qEUoAEHlG_.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiQY4dqUoAANXdz.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjnRyBmUkAEQOg_.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjicGf4UoAIto7M.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck_wM8YUoAAD2lC.jpg

Mamori:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd5QSr-VIAA4uJd.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd-45bAUEAA4EWx.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfKuRiyUIAA77Jd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfmaVz3UAAAH_Y1.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgUuoCdUIAA0xkZ.jpg:large

Marth:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd1rhgWVAAAnQ9v.jpg
http://blog-imgs-85.fc2.com/f/e/l/feliciacup/20160322012149bf9.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ceo0mq0WIAEprnL.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CedRWZKWQAAQO15.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cf14ngGUIAACS3F.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce9Ftw1UIAADQGv.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgKGh-AUkAAr1LN.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cgu1GkZUoAANAtN.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChSbyaWUkAAz3Sf.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chh8t4jU4AASFmL.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChhZtY9VEAAL73k.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ch2NZwmUkAAqVeI.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cia0IVwUYAALqN7.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckq_fVyUoAIcZFs.jpg:large

Minerva:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgpY-enUYAAskDL.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiaGmjSU4AAgXX1.jpg:large

Oboro:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjJKIJeVAAEeYmF.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkQ9SJnUoAAJcBN.jpg

Ogma:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfRiaHMUIAEsZtm.jpg

Ryoma:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjdqTA6VEAElAen.jpg:large

Selkie:
http://kizuna-cup.up.n.seesaa.net/kizuna-cup/image/image-86732.jpeg?d=a0
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgKUCR6UsAADcS8.jpg:large


Severa:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgFs5hjUEAQaPLC.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgUS9ATVIAQbpYU.jpg

Silas:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CivdKbOUUAEbCaO.jpg:large

Sirius:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeEjpSHUAAADQFE.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfCpkzeUEAApHJe.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CejerpSUMAAJuw7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci-vKz1UYAATuoV.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjijZAmUUAEL6qA.jpg:large

Shiro:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CifMY2GU4AAm3fk.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cji2-XqUUAALb0I.jpg:large

Soren:
http://blog-imgs-90.fc2.com/g/r/a/grandpandacanyon/Ceeck6kWsAAROgV.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg4kM4ZUkAAIxut.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Chc0CwtUoAAMb5N.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiaPA5sU4AAi6xc.jpg:large

Touma:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkbtKF0VEAAnfeO.jpg:large

Xander:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci-rqoLUgAE0_PU.jpg:large

Set 5 Metagame:

Spoiler

Bors:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/colossusorder-sub/imgs/7/7/77fed8bd-s.jpg

Chrom:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnjtdstUAAI42GP.jpg:large

Corrin:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClyvIYYVAAMsVOQ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmhSxnJVYAAe9Ks.jpg:large
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/colossusorder-sub/imgs/c/9/c9c94821-s.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmlJXdrUsAAC21r.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmr-OnnUIAEUVUD.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnZvmwNVMAAgu3m.jpg:large

Dieck:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnADDo7UcAAi763.jpg:large

Elincia:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl9Mbz_UYAEv8pP.jpg

Elise:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnujoDVUMAEznWm.jpg:large

Geoffrey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl9R72iVAAA0de_.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm7UnaaUsAA7Zsw.jpg
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/colossusorder-sub/imgs/3/4/34256fdf-s.jpg

Ike:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClzHTwSVEAAqH5W.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm7ll17VYAEfafo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnKh2SHUIAAiy1j.jpg:large

Inigo:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmhN7wXUIAAeHdh.jpg

Itsuki:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnZ8X-sUIAYHCSz.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClPEyeXUoAAQ9Oo.jpg

Lilina:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmbiNBbUsAAESnO.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm16qwaUEAEhSJ-.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnFTIvXUsAAoe3o.jpg:large

Lissa:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmLAJzcWMAEp6Mq.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoNJuKqVYAASps1.jpg:large

Lon'qu:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm-usf1UkAExQfk.jpg

Lucina:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmvUORaUEAAqXzx.jpg:large

Marth:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm7C64IUIAADdHF.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnFj2xcUIAAxvAr.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnFXFX9UMAA_Upv.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnjscBtUsAAQ71s.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm2FO2bUsAEyvOt.jpg

Mia:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clt1OTuUkAAlM-5.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl3o0WdVAAIQJ9P.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmW5C4WUEAA9loY.jpg

Micaiah:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnNhtkaUIAAdRha.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnfn4K9VYAABym9.jpg:large

Morgan:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cmmb3T9VUAAxNEc.jpg:large

Ranulf:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl23VYVUgAAfXrH.jpg

Robin:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cno6By5VIAE3vhw.jpg:large

Roy:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl2f5qjUgAAeQ-u.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmCYI4qUYAQjXoJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmH5aWSVEAEx3O7.jpg:large

Rutger:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cly57jeUsAArh15.jpg

Sanaki:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl9HjPPUkAA_zwe.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl0OighVEAA1pVL.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm6_9NhVMAQX7mF.jpg:large

Selkie:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/colossusorder-sub/imgs/9/c/9cbd707f-s.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnsKmvjVYAAaI8D.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cne-Oy5UAAEKdzv.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cne2kVdUIAA-KPL.jpg:large

Severa:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnsxu8EUMAA2BBT.jpg:large

Sirius:
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/colossusorder-sub/imgs/7/4/74ca49c5-s.jpg

Sophia:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmXMqKZUMAAEipq.jpg

Soren:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl9LaztVAAEPKpd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClzWtfRUoAA-KSj.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmXM-CTUkAEfqjo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm7NeDVUIAA63-X.jpg:large

Volug:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnpTgqeVMAAMqfl.jpg:large

Xander:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnf0-yzVUAAOnab.jpg:large

Set 6 Metagame:

 

Set 7 Metagame:

 

Set 8 Metagame:

 

Sample LackeyCCG Decklists:

 

 
If there's any questions or if you can't make out something, feel free to ask.
Edited by Kirie
Jan 17 - Update for new software & new decklists

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Is there any news on Manaketes deck after IF?

There was 1 Tikideck during the first week of release, but never since then.

I expect Tikideck to rise soon, maaaybe. The problem is that she has the same weaknesses as other powerful decks (Ryoma) but much worse.

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Any Ophelia decks out there? I'm actually having trouble against it. I think it's not bad.

Nothing I've seen so far. I built it and I'd like to explain it as...

Imagine a normal deck: It performs at and average of 70%, but often performs better, up to 90 or even 100%.

Compare to Ophelia, the most consistent deck in the game I think. She performs at 80% at all times. Which deck is better, then?

I think Ophelia needs the mage theme (drawing) to be expanded a little bit.

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Nothing I've seen so far. I built it and I'd like to explain it as...

Imagine a normal deck: It performs at and average of 70%, but often performs better, up to 90 or even 100%.

Compare to Ophelia, the most consistent deck in the game I think. She performs at 80% at all times. Which deck is better, then?

I think Ophelia needs the mage theme (drawing) to be expanded a little bit.

I think your right, although I can't seem to beat my cousin with any deck consistently unless he misses a lot of attacks.

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I added Chrom decks that won today. Very interesting that there never were any before.

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Interesting that Soleil is being run as a pure black deck. I dunno if its still the case, but it makes total sense to me to run it as a Blue/Black. Soleil is a really awesome card and so is Camilla and Luna, the rest of the females in Nohr seem rather underwhelming to be honest, though it seems like Charlotte would be invaluable for the mirror match.

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Are there really no Minerva decks? Figured all an flyer deck that doesn't have to worry about archers and can boost each other up (Sumia, Cherche, etc) would've been a popular contender. Not to mention they'd have consistent support checks.

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Minerva's still only a 50 attack card and bleeds Orbs to everything.

The problem with Soleil decks is that black does not have enough power cards. If you're running blue, you might as well play Inigo and drop black altogether.

Charlotte is kind of bad. She's 50 + 10 per enemy female. Compare to the average Fighter that would have 50 + 20 unconditionally.

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But honestly, Camilla is such a good card you'd be crazy not to try and integrate her into some form of Harem. She is a 120 whenever she attacks without supports, and is great at drawing out evades because you have pretty much no other option outside of taking an orb every turn AND she pops a 1 cost every turn. Her being female is just icing on the cake and IMO, you'd be crazy not to run her in Harem. Belka and Luna can replace whatever else in Reds because you're only really using Minerva or Caeda (Minerva is nice for Iote's shield but is otherwise unremarkable. She doesn't become a threat without board presence) in Reds and then just filling the deck out with Palla, Catria and Est and healers.

Charlotte I could see becoming a REALLY niche choice. A lot of the people I play with play Inigo Harem and Cordelia and Sumia tend to hit the field along with Minerva.

She's essentially a reverse Minerva, requiring your opponent to play plenty of females on the board, as opposed to you playing them.

She's not a great card by any means, but she could be a serious problem for something like Soleil Harem

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Camilla is a 2-card combo to take off one orb/evade. Then she is guaranteed to die.

Imagine Charlotte vs some ridiculous Harem. She attacks for 17 billion damage. And then she is guaranteed to die.

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She is a 2-card combo which does impact her usefulness, no doubt, but playing her in a deck that revolves heavily around mobility with rescue and flying emblem, it's not difficult to move her out of danger.

Even better if by some miracle you can get promotion Cordelia off and give her 1 - 2 range? Even better.

For promotion Camilla to be worth her cost, she realistically needs to destroy 2 cards. She is guaranteed to either destroy a card, or make your opponent discard 1, then if she survives to next turn she potentially destroys 2. Even if she only destroys 2 cards or makes your opponent discard 2 cards, economically speaking it's even. You could even throw just promotion Camilla in the backline and use her passively to pop a card every turn and she'll still be a useful card.

Your opponent can't leave pesky healers on the board.

Aside from Inigo/Soleil she'll be one of your main damage dealers and that's something the deck needs - firepower.

Charlotte I can agree with, I never said she was a great card and fighters are definitely better than her, but she does fill a very small niche and she's by no means a bad card.

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Camilla is one of the best black cards, but that's mostly saying that black is weak rather than Camilla being powerful. I really like the card and it's really well-designed, but a level 1 Archer kills her. (And the individual components of the 2-card combo are really bad)

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Minerva's still only a 50 attack card and bleeds Orbs to everything.

Isn't that what her first skill is for? Just by having two other flyers out on the field, she's a 70 base with a garuantee 30 support (40 if you have Sumia's CCS). Unless the meta is run flyers outside your MC, I'd imagine hitting 100 for most decks is difficult to achieve outside of a final play, especially without Clearing the Skies.

Though I can understand that she's very weak until turn 3, as it wouldn't be hard to bully a 30 power MC, but I imagine you can stall long enough till that point. I mean, Tiki decks manage the same thing essentially.

Edited by xNinjaOfChaosx

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The flyers boosting her up are extremely frail as well.

So far, ALL tournament-winning decks have followed one IRON rule:

-A good deck needs to frequently hit 100 (After Supports)

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Talking about Camilla, in TCG Republic her price skyrocketed to +$40. I'm not following much the tournaments in Japan, but price is indeed an indicator about the usefulness of a card. Maybe she's not great as a MC since she is frail defending but having a strong MC and sometimes drop her on the battlefield for another almost sure hit is scary.

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Within rarity, "demand" determines price. "Demand" can mean that it's a good card, or that it has boobs.

Edit: Added Oboro and Ryoma decks.

Edited by Tuvillo

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Yeah rarity is also a factor. And Tuvillo hit on the spot, demand is the word. In any case, I'm seeing high prices for SR Elisse and SR Camilla lol

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So is the current meta basically just run as many flyers as possible in a deck for the 30 support, and running anything that would offer 10 support (even with an Emblem boost) is generally just bad?

Most of the decks I've browsed through seem to be flyer heavy, and that kind of makes me sad.

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Compare Ophelia to a random deck listed here. Ophelia has 90 attack after supports as long as the support succeeds. You still lose to a deck that frequently hits 100, no matter what character it is.

As long as your opponent hits enough fliers, it means you also need to hit your fliers to stand a chance. It's inflation while still trying to maintain your deck's power.

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