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Choosing the Best Class for Camilla (Poll 14)

Which is the best class for Camilla?  

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  1. 1. Optimization Poll: Which is the optimal class for Camilla?

    • Adventurer
      0
    • Berserker
      3
    • Bow Knight
      0
    • Brave Hero
      4
    • Dark Knight
      0
    • Falcon Warrior
      0
    • General
      1
    • Golden-Kite Warrior
      0
    • Great Knight
      1
    • Holy Bowman
      0
    • Jonin
      0
    • Maid
      1
    • Paladin
      0
    • Puppeteer
      0
    • Revenant Knight
      17
    • Sorcerer
      0
    • Strategist
      0
    • Trueblade
      0
    • Weapon Master
      0
    • Wyvern Lord
      28
    • I don't really know.
      4
  2. 2. Practicality Poll (Nohr): Which is the most practical class for Camilla in the Nohr campaign?

    • Adventurer
      0
    • Berserker
      1
    • Bow Knight
      0
    • Brave Hero
      2
    • Dark Knight
      1
    • General
      0
    • Great Knight
      0
    • Jonin
      0
    • Maid
      0
    • Paladin
      0
    • Puppeteer
      0
    • Revenant Knight
      25
    • Sorcerer
      0
    • Strategist
      0
    • Wyvern Lord
      30
    • I'm going to bench Camilla.
      0
  3. 3. Preference Poll: Which class do you like the best for Camilla?

    • Adventurer
      0
    • Berserker
      7
    • Bow Knight
      0
    • Brave Hero
      0
    • Dark Knight
      0
    • Falcon Warrior
      1
    • General
      0
    • Golden-Kite Warrior
      0
    • Great Knight
      1
    • Holy Bowman
      1
    • Jonin
      0
    • Maid
      3
    • Paladin
      0
    • Puppeteer
      0
    • Revenant Knight
      21
    • Sorcerer
      0
    • Strategist
      0
    • Trueblade
      0
    • Weapon Master
      1
    • Wyvern Lord
      21
    • She's fine in any class.
      3
  4. 4. DLC Poll: Which DLC class do you like the best for Camilla?

    • Dark Falcon
      7
    • Dread Fighter
      11
    • Great Lord
      4
    • Witch
      25
    • I don't plan on using DLC classes.
      12
  5. 5. Optional Poll: Which character would you like to vote on next poll?

    • Kaze
      5
    • Ryoma
      3
    • Pieri
      3
    • Nyx
      4
    • Rinkah
      6
    • Xander
      8
    • Oboro
      5
    • Setsuna
      4
    • Subaki
      1
    • Lazward
      4
    • Arthur
      5
    • Hana
      2
    • I don't really care.
      9


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Camilla. The eldest daughter of the Nohrian royal family. She has a loving personality, like a mother, and especially dotes on the Avatar. On the other hand, she shows no mercy for her enemies and reveals a cruel side of herself on the battlefield. Bathes the longest.
[spoiler=Marriage/Buddy Seals]
Spoiler (Marriage/Buddy Seals)

A Marriage/Buddy seal allows a unit to reclass into one of the select class trees of his spouse (S support) or buddy (A+ support). A unit may only achieve an S support with units of the opposite gender (exc. Kamui, Syalla, Zero), and may only achieve an A+ support with units of the same gender.

(The credit for the following information goes to Gayserbeam, as I copied the wording of his explanation. Check out the Class Changing and Inheritance Thread for more information.

  • If the users Primary Class is different than their Spouses/Buddys Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Primary Class, even if the user has that class as a Secondary Class already.
  • If the users Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddys Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class.
  • If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class.
    • An unlearnable class is a class that may be unique to a character or their children. The following units have unlearnable classes: Nishiki (Fox Spirit), Flannel (Garou), Azura (Singer), Mozume (Villager).
  • If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, and their Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Substitute Class.
    • A Substitute Class is simply a select class a character with an unlearnable class passes down under certain circumstances. The following units have Substitute Classes: Nishiki (Herb Merchant), Flannel (Outlaw), Azura (Rod Knight), Mozume (Herb Merchant).


If youre still confused, let me use Camilla as an example to try and clarify matters!

  • Camilla/Zero: Camilla's Primary Class is Wyvern Rider, and Zero's is Outlaw. Therefore, Camilla would Marriage Seal into Outlaw.
    • Camilla/Odin: Camilla's Primary Class is Wyvern Rider, and Odin's is Dark Mage. Therefore, Camilla would Marriage Seal into Dark Mage. As Camilla's Secondary Class is Dark Mage, she would not receive a new class tree from Odin.
  • Camilla/Belka: Camilla's Primary Class is Wyvern Rider, and Belka's is Wyvern Rider. Therefore, Camilla would Buddy Seal into Belka's Secondary Class-- Fighter.
  • Camilla/Flannel: As Flannel's Primary Class is Garou, an unlearnable class, Camilla would Marriage Seal into his Secondary Class-- Fighter.
  • Camilla/Wyvern Rider!Avatar: Avatar's Primary Class is Nohr Prince, an unlearnable class. Camilla's Primary Class is Wyvern Rider, and Avatar's Secondary Class is Wyvern Rider. Therefore, Camilla would Marriage Seal into his Substitute Class-- Pegasus Warrior.


[spoiler=Possible Classes]

  • Classes in black are ones Camilla can only achieve in either the Nohr or the Invisible Kingdom campaign.
  • Classes in blue are ones Camilla can only achieve in the Invisible Kingdom campaign

Base Classes (4H, 8N, 12T)

  • Bowman
  • Cavalier
  • Dark Mage
  • Fighter
  • Knight
  • Mercenary
  • Ninja
  • Outlaw
  • Pegasus Warrior
  • Rod Knight
  • Samurai
  • Wyvern Rider


Promoted Classes (7H, 13N, 20T)

  • Adventurer
  • Berserker
  • Bow Knight
  • Brave Hero
  • Dark Knight
  • Falcon Warrior
  • General
  • Golden-Kite Warrior
  • Great Knight
  • Holy Bowman
  • Jonin
  • Maid
  • Paladin
  • Puppeteer
  • Revenant Knight
  • Sorcerer
  • Strategist
  • Trueblade
  • Weapon Master
  • Wyvern Lord


[spoiler=Expansion of Possible Classes]
Primary Base Class:
Wyvern Rider
Primary Promoted Classes: Revenant Knight, Wyvern Lord
Secondary Base Class: Dark Mage
Secondary Promoted Classes: Dark Knight, Sorcerer

Marriage Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the spouses. we listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last.

  • Ryoma: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master
  • Takumi: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Weapon Master

  • Arthur: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero
  • Benoit: Knight -> General, Great Knight
  • Flannel: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero
  • Lazward: Mercenary -> Bow Knight, Brave Hero
  • Odin: n/a
  • Zero: Outlaw -> Adventurer, Bow Knight

  • Jakob: Rod Knight -> Maid, Strategist
  • Kaze: Ninja -> Jonin, Puppeteer
  • Silas: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin


Buddy Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the buddies. we listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last.

  • Hinoka: Pegasus Warrior -> Falcon Warrior, Golden-Kite Warrior
  • Belka: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero
  • Elise: Rod Knight -> Maid, Strategist
  • Luna: Mercenary -> Bow Knight, Brave Hero



[spoiler=Notice]

  • In the previous optional poll, Oboro placed 2nd and Lazward placed 3rd. Therefore, Oboro would get 3 votes and Lazward will get 1.
  • If I add all votes that tied in the lowest (1 votes) it would exceed 5% of total votes (includes bonus votes; excludes I don't really care votes, 5%*39=1.95). So, no one is eliminated this time
  • Hana have been added back to the poll. if it is demonstrated again is that the forum is not interested in her, She will be out for 4 polls (poll 19).
  • Note: If you plan to go through multiple classes, vote for the Final/Endgame class.


[spoiler=Possible Skills]
Personal Skill: Bewitching Flower: Adjacent allies deal 3 extra damage and receive 1 less damage
Skills are organized alphabetically based on the classes. Within the classes, skills are listed in the order of achievement (e.g. a GK earns Luna at Lvl. 5 and Diamond Strike at Lvl. 15, so Luna is listed before Diamond Strike).

Base class skills are listed before promoted class skills. Descriptions of skills Sakura can acquire through her primary and secondary class trees are listed below.

Descriptions of all the skills are located on the skills pages.

Base Classes Skills

  • Bowman: Skill +2, Prescient Victory
  • Cavalier: Open Assault, Rescue
  • Dark Mage: Bind, Devilish Wind
  • Fighter: HP +5, Roundhouse
  • Knight: Defense +2, Confined Defense
  • Mercenary: Stubbornness, Patient Assurance
  • Ninja: Locktouch, Snake Venom
  • Outlaw: Locktouch, Movement +1
  • Pegasus Warrior: Swallow Strike, Eastern Heart
  • Rod Knight: Resistance +2, Demoiselle
  • Samurai: Flowing Strike Vantage
  • Wyvern Rider: Strength +2, Cut Through

Promoted Classes Skills

  • Adventurer: Lucky Seven, Pass
  • Berserker: Rally Strength, Axefaire
  • Bow Knight: Rally Skill, Kunaibreaker
  • Brave Hero: Sol, Axebreaker
  • Dark Knight: Magic Seal, Lifetaker
  • Falcon Warrior: Rally Speed, Mirror Strike
  • General: Defensive Formation, Pavise
  • Golden-Kite Warrior: Soar, Sun God
  • Great Knight: Luna, Diamond Strike
  • Holy Bowman: Raven Strike, Bowfaire
  • Jonin: Lethality, Kunaifaire
  • Maid: Servant's Joy, Tomebreaker
  • Paladin: Defender, Aegis
  • Puppeteer: Puppet Break, Copycat Puppet
  • Revenant Knight: Deadly Breath, Overbearing
  • Sorcerer: Vengeance, Bowbreaker
  • Strategist: Rally Resistance, Battle Command
  • Trueblade: Astra, Swordfaire
  • Weapon Master: Strength Seal, Line of Death
  • Wyvern Lord: Rally Defence, Swordbreaker


Strength +2: Strength +2
Cut Through: Select the “Cut Through” command to swap places with an enemy after an attack
Deadly Breath: When user triggers the battle, enemies within a 2 tile radius have their HP reduced by 20% after the battle
Overbearing: Unless enemy is on a mount, damage +5
Rally Defence: Defence +4 to all allies within a 2 tile radius for one Turn when the “Rally” command is used
Swordbreaker: Hit rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a Sword

Bind: When fighting adjacent to an enemy, enemys Avoid -20
Devilish Wind: Enemies within a 2 tile radius receive 2 extra damage from magical attacks
Magic Seal: After battle, enemys Magic -6
Lifetaker: When user triggers the battle, recover 50% HP after defeating the enemy
Vengeance: Skill x 1.5% chance of adding half the users (Max HP Current HP) as damage
Bow Breaker: Hit rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a Bow



For more info about stats and growths, please go to http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-fates/

[spoiler=Summary]

Optimal

1. Wyvern Lord [51.11%]

2. Revenant Knight [26.67%]

3. Brave Hero [6.67%]

Practical (Nohr)

1. Wyvern Lord [53.33%]

2. Revenant Knight [42.22%]

3. n/a

Preferred

1. Wyvern Lord [42.22%]

2. Revenant Knight [35.56%]

3. Berserker [11.11%]

DLC

1. Witch [46.67%]

2. Dread Fighter [20.00%]

3. Dark Falcon [13.33%]

Optional poll

1. Xander (8 votes)[17.78%]

2. Oboro (3+3 votes) [6.67%]

3. Arthur (5 votes)[11.11%]

So next poll, we vote for the Crown Prince of Nohr, Xander

Edited by Jayvee94

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For a Nohr run, I actually shipped her with Benoit to make her a General and it went swimmingly. I had Luna as her combat buddy in Attack Stance. Camilla's skills by end were Luna, Sol, Pavise, Defensive Formation, and Overbearing. She was quite the force the whole way, too, never giving up her Axes.


In my next run of Invisible Kingdom, she will Kamui's wife for the purpose of obtaining Berserker. I'll have her rocking the following skills:


Awakening

Bind

Sol

Aether

Diamond Strike


All while rockin' that Great Club. This time, Luna will be her support again, but in Guard Stance. D'em crits, baby.


But my favorite class for her was Holy Bowman, when she was wed to Takumi. It didn't really work, like, at all, in the beginning, but with some work put into her, she became pretty awesome, though not exactly to tier or anything.

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Anything with Axes, at least. Good Axe rank is hard to pass up. Marrying her to Flannel or Arthur is beneficial in game and she gets Zerker access for kicks. She can also buddy Luna for Hero.

In a practical sense, she does best as a Wyvern. It's a statistical increase across the board early on and it jives well with her growths.

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Anything with Axes, at least. Good Axe rank is hard to pass up. Marrying her to Flannel or Arthur is beneficial in game and she gets Zerker access for kicks. She can also buddy Luna for Hero.

In a practical sense, she does best as a Wyvern. It's a statistical increase across the board early on and it jives well with her growths.

Or A+ Belka for Zerker. They have fast support growth.

Edited by Tooru

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Wyvern Lord lets her take advantage of her axe rank while immediately boosting her STR, SPD, SKL and HP. Revenant Knight is a bit of a waste on Camilla; her base MAG is awful for a promoted unit and will never be worth it when Nyx, Elise, and Leo eclipse her so dramatically.

Dread Fighter isn't bad either, but you'll have to think about whether the DEF decrease is worth it. Otherwise, the class is actually just as STR-ong as Wyvern Lord and has more SPD, RES and HP.

Edited by gayserbeam

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You can get a decent amount of mileage out of Revenant Knight with her by feeding her all the spirit dusts and magic tonics and then give her the Bolt Axe or a decent tome. You then get a powerful bulky flier with strong 1-2 range. Like Haar 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Otherwise just go Wyvern Lord.

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I'm gonna switch her to Wyvern Lord as the final class after learning Revenant skills, but is Overbearing worth waiting till Lv. 15?

Edited by Ryo

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I'm gonna switch her to Wyvern Lord as the final class after learning Revenant skills, but is Overbearing worth waiting till Lv. 15?

Overbearing is good, so if you intend to grind Camilla to 15, it's worth it.

However, in normal gameplay, you won't get to 15 for quite a while, and it's during that time between levels 1 and 15 that the base and growth boosts from switching to Wyvern Lord are actually meaningful.

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I'm gonna switch her to Wyvern Lord as the final class after learning Revenant skills, but is Overbearing worth waiting till Lv. 15?

I didn't get Cam to --/15 until C23. She doesn't need overbearing because her offensive stats are already really high and she has no issues killing shit without the bonus. Likewise, she doesn't need Deadly Breath because she never leaves anything alive. The immediate boost from Wyvern Lord early on will help much more than waiting for overbearing.

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Deadly Breath isn't to help her, it's to help everyone else. It's a 2 range APE that saps 20% and makes it easier for other units(that are weaker than Cam) to pick up kills. Overbearing is fairly redundant, but Deadly Breath is pretty good.

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I'm gonna switch her to Wyvern Lord as the final class after learning Revenant skills, but is Overbearing worth waiting till Lv. 15?

Camilla's real level is like 15+X so she gains EXP faster than other units. But her level caps is the same as most units.

The problem is:

1. If she learns Overbearing late, of course it is not worth.

2. If she learns Overbearing early and uses it a lot, she will hit lv20 early and waste a lot EXP.

Reasons of using Revenant Knight Camilla:

1. You may want her not to beat too much enemies so other units can get more EXP. In this case Deadly Breath is useful but Overbearing isn't.

2. Parallel Seals are limited before C21 if you don't visit other castles. You may want to give all seals to other units, and keep Camilla as a Revenant Knight until C21.

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None listed!

Witch for the better Speed and Mag caps.

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