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Choosing the Best Class for Oboro (Poll 16)

Which is the best class for Oboro?  

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  1. 1. Optimization Poll: Which is the optimal class for Oboro?

    • Adventurer
      0
    • Basara
      2
    • Blacksmith
      0
    • Bow Knight
      0
    • Exorcist
      0
    • Falcon Warrior
      0
    • General
      0
    • Golden-Kite Warrior
      0
    • Great Knight
      0
    • Great Merchant
      0
    • Holy Bowman
      0
    • Holy Lancer
      32
    • Jonin
      0
    • Maid
      0
    • Paladin
      0
    • Puppeteer
      0
    • Revenant Knight
      0
    • Shura
      0
    • Strategist
      0
    • Trueblade
      0
    • War Priestess
      0
    • Weapon Master
      0
    • Wyvern Lord
      1
    • I don't really know.
      3
  2. 2. Practicality Poll (Hoshido): Which is the most practical class for Oboro in the Hoshido campaign?

    • Basara
      2
    • Blacksmith
      0
    • Exorcist
      1
    • Falcon Warrior
      0
    • Golden-Kite Warrior
      0
    • Great Knight
      0
    • Great Merchant
      0
    • Holy Bowman
      0
    • Holy Lancer
      33
    • Jonin
      0
    • Maid
      0
    • Paladin
      0
    • Puppeteer
      0
    • Shura
      0
    • Strategist
      0
    • Trueblade
      0
    • War Priestess
      0
    • Weapon Master
      1
    • I'm going to bench Oboro.
      1
  3. 3. Preference Poll: Which class do you like the best for Oboro?

    • Adventurer
      0
    • Basara
      4
    • Blacksmith
      0
    • Bow Knight
      0
    • Exorcist
      0
    • Falcon Warrior
      0
    • General
      0
    • Golden-Kite Warrior
      0
    • Great Knight
      1
    • Great Merchant
      1
    • Holy Bowman
      0
    • Holy Lancer
      31
    • Jonin
      0
    • Maid
      0
    • Paladin
      0
    • Puppeteer
      1
    • Revenant Knight
      0
    • Shura
      0
    • Strategist
      0
    • Trueblade
      0
    • War Priestess
      0
    • Weapon Master
      0
    • Wyvern Lord
      0
    • She's fine in any class.
      0
  4. 4. DLC Poll: Which DLC class do you like the best for Oboro?

    • Dark Falcon
      2
    • Dread Fighter
      7
    • Great Lord
      13
    • Witch
      3
    • I don't plan on using DLC classes.
      13
  5. 5. Optional Poll: Which character would you like to vote on next poll?

    • Kaze
      8
    • Ryoma
      0
    • Pieri
      2
    • Nyx
      2
    • Rinkah
      3
    • Setsuna
      4
    • Lazward
      4
    • Arthur
      2
    • Effie
      4
    • Flannel
      0
    • Nishiki
      2
    • Tsukuyomi
      3
    • I don't really care.
      4


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Oboro. A Hoshidan lance fighter; Takumis subordinate. Her parents owned a big kimono shop. Following the trauma of her parents deaths at the hands of Nohr, she sees Nohrians as the devil. Fashionable and well-versed with the kimono trends. Changes attire the most.
[spoiler=Marriage/Buddy Seals]
Spoiler (Marriage/Buddy Seals)

A Marriage/Buddy seal allows a unit to reclass into one of the select class trees of his spouse (S support) or buddy (A+ support). A unit may only achieve an S support with units of the opposite gender (exc. Kamui, Syalla, Zero), and may only achieve an A+ support with units of the same gender.

(The credit for the following information goes to Gayserbeam, as I copied the wording of his explanation. Check out the Class Changing and Inheritance Thread for more information.

  • If the users Primary Class is different than their Spouses/Buddys Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Primary Class, even if the user has that class as a Secondary Class already.
  • If the users Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddys Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class.
  • If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class.
    • An unlearnable class is a class that may be unique to a character or their children. The following units have unlearnable classes: Nishiki (Fox Spirit), Flannel (Garou), Azura (Singer), Mozume (Villager).
  • If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, and their Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Substitute Class.
    • A Substitute Class is simply a select class a character with an unlearnable class passes down under certain circumstances. The following units have Substitute Classes: Nishiki (Herb Merchant), Flannel (Outlaw), Azura (Rod Knight), Mozume (Herb Merchant).


If you're still confused, let me use Oboro as an example to try and clarify matters!

  • Oboro/Takumi: Oboro's Primary Class is Lance Fighter, and Takumi's is Bowman. Therefore, Oboro would Marriage Seal into Bowman.
    • there is no Herb Merchant Oboro can directly/normally support
  • there is no fellow Lance Fighter Oboro can directly/normally support
  • Oboro/Nishiki: As Nishiki's Primary Class is Fox Spirit, an unlearnable class, Oboro would Marriage Seal into his Secondary Class-- Spellcaster.
  • Oboro/Lance Fighter!Avatar: Avatar's Primary Class is Nohr Princess, an unlearnable class. Oboro's Primary Class is Lance Fighter, and Avatar's Secondary Class is Lance Fighter. Therefore, Oboro would Marriage Seal into his Substitute Class-- Knight.


[spoiler=Possible Classes]

  • Classes in red are ones Oboro can only achieve in either the Hoshido or the Invisible Kingdom campaign.
  • Classes in blue are ones Oboro can only achieve in the Invisible Kingdom campaign

Base Classes (9H, 5N, 14T)

  • Bowman
  • Cavalier
  • Herb Merchant
  • Knight
  • Lance Fighter
  • Ninja
  • Oni Savage
  • Outlaw
  • Pegasus Warrior
  • Priestess
  • Rod Knight
  • Samurai
  • Spellcaster
  • Wyvern Rider


Promoted Classes (14H, 9N, 23T)

  • Adventurer
  • Basara
  • Blacksmith
  • Bow Knight
  • Exorcist
  • Falcon Warrior
  • General
  • Golden-Kite Warrior
  • Great Knight
  • Great Merchant
  • Holy Bowman
  • Holy Lancer
  • Jonin
  • Maid
  • Paladin
  • Puppeteer
  • Revenant Knight
  • Shura
  • Strategist
  • Trueblade
  • War Priestess
  • Weapon Master
  • Wyvern Lord


[spoiler=Expansion of Possible Classes]
Primary Base Class:
Cavalier
Primary Promoted Classes: Great Knight, Paladin
Secondary Base Class: Wyvern Rider
Secondary Promoted Classes: Revenant Knight, Wyvern Lord

Marriage Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the spouses. we listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last.

  • Asama: Priestess -> Exorcist, War Priestess
  • Hinata: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master
  • Ryoma: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master
  • Saizou: Ninja -> Jonin, Puppeteer
  • Nishiki: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist
  • Subaki: Pegasus Warrior -> Falcon Warrior, Golden-Kite Warrior
  • Takumi: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Holy Bowman
  • Tsukuyomi: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist

  • Benoit: Knight -> General, Great Knight
  • Zero: Outlaw -> Adventurer, Bow Knight

  • Jakob: Rod Knight -> Maid, Strategist
  • Kaze: Ninja -> Jonin, Puppeteer
  • Silas: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin


Buddy Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the buddies. we listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last.

  • Orochi: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist
  • Rinkah: Oni Savage -> Blacksmith, Shura
  • Belka: Wyvern Rider -> Revenant Knight, Wyvern Lord
  • Mozume: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Holy Bowman



[spoiler=Notice]

  • In the previous optional poll, Kaze placed 2nd and Ryoma, Nyx and Lazward tied at 3rd (technically 4th). Therefore, Oboro would get 3 votes and Ryoma, Nyx and Lazward will get 1 vote each.
  • No one has been eliminated this time
  • Tsukuyomi has been added back to the poll. if it is demonstrated again is that the forum is not interested in him, he will be out for 8 polls (poll 25).
  • Note: If you plan to go through multiple classes, vote for the Final/Endgame class.


[spoiler=Possible Skills]
Personal Skill: Nohr Hater: When engaging a Nohr-related enemy, damage +3
Skills are organized alphabetically based on the classes. Within the classes, skills are listed in the order of achievement (e.g. a GK earns Luna at Lvl. 5 and Diamond Strike at Lvl. 15, so Luna is listed before Diamond Strike).

Base class skills are listed before promoted class skills. Descriptions of skills Sakura can acquire through her primary and secondary class trees are listed below.

Descriptions of all the skills are located on the skills pages.

Base Classes Skills

  • Bowman: Skill +2, Prescient Victory
  • Cavalier: Open Assault, Rescue
  • Herb Merchant: Effective Medicine, Household Cure
  • Knight: Defense +2, Confined Defense
  • Lance Fighter: Defence Seal, Substitute
  • Ninja: Locktouch, Snake Venom
  • Oni Savage: Resistance Seal, Shove
  • Outlaw: Locktouch, Movement +1
  • Pegasus Warrior: Swallow Strike, Eastern Heart
  • Priestess: Miracle, Rally Luck
  • Rod Knight: Resistance +2, Distinguished Son
  • Samurai: Flowing Strike Vantage
  • Spellcaster: Magic +2, Fortune
  • Wyvern Rider: Strength +2, Cut Through

Promoted Classes Skills

  • Adventurer: Lucky Seven, Pass
  • Basara: Breaking Sky, Flamboyant
  • Blacksmith: Smithy Skill, Lancebreaker
  • Bow Knight: Rally Skill, Kunaibreaker
  • Exorcist: Rally Magic, Tomefaire
  • Falcon Warrior: Rally Speed, Mirror Strike
  • General: Defensive Formation, Pavise
  • Golden-Kite Warrior: Soar, Sun God
  • Great Knight: Luna, Diamond Strike
  • Great Merchant: Easy Life, Extravagance
  • Holy Bowman: Raven Strike, Bowfaire
  • Holy Lancer: Speed Seal, Lancefaire
  • Jonin: Lethality, Kunaifaire
  • Maid: Servant's Joy, Tomebreaker
  • Paladin: Defender, Aegis
  • Puppeteer: Puppet Break, Copycat Puppet
  • Revenant Knight: Deadly Breath, Overbearing
  • Shura: Ogre Strike, Counter
  • Strategist: Rally Resistance, Battle Command
  • Trueblade: Astra, Swordfaire
  • War Priestess: Renewal, Magic Counter
  • Weapon Master: Strength Seal, Line of Death
  • Wyvern Lord: Rally Defence, Swordbreaker


Defence Seal: After battle, enemy's Defence -6
Substitute: Select the Substitute command to swap places with an adjacent ally on the map
Breaking Sky: Skill x 1.5% chance of adding half the enemy's Strength (if user has a physical weapon) or Magic (if user has a magical weapon) as damage
Flamboyant: User and enemy's Hit rate +30 and skill activation rate +15% during battle
Speed Seal: After battle, enemy's Speed -6
Lancefaire: When user is equipped with a Lance, damage +5 during battle

Effective Medicine: The effect of HP recovery and stat-boosting potions is increased by 50%
Household Cure: After consuming a HP recovery or stat-boosting potion, the user can perform another action
Easy Life: Luck% chance of obtaining a Golden Coin after moving during the first seven Turns
Extravagance: During battles, if user spends a Golden Coin, damage +10 and damage received -10
Puppet Break: Attacks are effective against Puppeteers, Puppets and Golems
Copycat Puppet: Select the Copycat command once per map to create a puppet with the same appearance, stats, inventory and HP as the user
(Anything that happens to the puppet happens to the user and vice versaeven death)


For more info about stats and growths, please go to http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-fates/
[spoiler=Summary]

Optimal

1. Holy Lancer [87.50%]

2. Basara [6.25%]

3. n/a

Practical (Hoshido)

1. Holy Lancer [87.50%]

2. Basara [6.25%]

3. Weapon Master [3.12%]

Preferred

1. Holy Lancer [84.38%]

2. Basara [9.38%]

3. n/a

DLC

1. Great Lord [37.50%]

2. Dread Fighter [15.62%]

3. Witch [9.38%]

Optional Poll

1. Kaze [25.00%](8+3 votes)

2. Lazward [12.50%](4+1 votes)

3.5 Setsuna [12.50%](4 votes)

3.5 Effie [12.50%](4 votes)

Edited by Jayvee94

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Basara. Oboro has phenomenally even stat growth, which fits in well with Basara's even growths, and her big weakness is HP, which Basara gives the best growth and base boost to. She'll want to slip into Holy Lancer for a little bit because Speed Seal and Lancefaire are both great on her, but Basara looks like it does much nicer things for her stats.

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Holy Lancer all the way.

Compared to Basara, promoting to Holy Lancer will give her two less HP, two more STR, one more SKL/SPD and a 10% crit bonus. The higher HP growth Basara gives will only add up to an average of 1 more HP gained by 20/20.

It's not worth giving up Holy Lancer's crit bonus and S Rank for Basara's 3HP, 4RES and a secondary weapon you won't use. It's worth a dip to learn Breaking Sky, but Holy Lancer is altogether a more practical class.

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Holy Lancer all the way.

Compared to Basara, promoting to Holy Lancer will give her two less HP, two more STR, one more SKL/SPD and a 10% crit bonus. The higher HP growth Basara gives will only add up to an average of 1 more HP gained by 20/20.

It's not worth giving up Holy Lancer's crit bonus and S Rank for Basara's 3HP, 4RES and a secondary weapon you won't use. It's worth a dip to learn Breaking Sky, but Holy Lancer is altogether a more practical class.

Screw Breaking Sky. It is only dependant on Melee enemies as it won't work for the weapon that your character doesn't use. If Oboro uses a Lance instead of a tome from Basara class from a Magic using foe, it won't do anything. Luna, Astra, Aether and Sol are all I ever give to my characters as they do the job just right to anyone. Though Breaking Sky is good for Takumi though. Since he's a player phase dependant character anyway from his best option, his default class!

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Give her this...

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Holy Lancer. She doesn't ever need to be anything else!

-+20 Crit evasion from the S Ranked lance itself. +35 if with Veteran Intuition.

-Gets well rounded stats in everything.

-Gets the best debuff skill in the game! (Speed Seal)

Edited by Princess_Elise

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Gracious, popular opinion certainly has turned away from Basara from what I recall it having been.

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Screw Breaking Sky. It is only dependant on Melee enemies as it won't work for the weapon that your character doesn't use.

I thought breaking sky would be wonderful since the meta seems to be very physical weapon oriented?

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I thought breaking sky would be wonderful since the meta seems to be very physical weapon oriented?

Screw Breaking Sky. It is only dependant on Melee enemies as it won't work for the weapon that your character doesn't use. If Oboro uses a Lance instead of a tome from Basara class from a Magic using foe, it won't do anything.

If the enemy is attacking with magic, then they are an Exorcist, Sorceror, Witch, Strategist, Dark Knight, Revenant Knight, Shura or Basara. Exorcists, Sorcerors, Witches and Strategists have such low DEF that you don't need a proc to kill them; Dark Knights and Revenant Knights are slow, have high STR and already take extra damage because of Nohr Hater; Shura and Basara have high STR and will still take full damage from Breaking Sky even if they are using a Spell.

There is never a point where you absolutely need a proc to kill the opponent and Breaking Sky is doing 0 damage. That's a theoretical situation that never happens in practice.

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Breaking Sky is a PvP skill but Oboro is a 1-gen with nothing special.

Her child always has Basara class so she don't need to pass Breaking Sky.

But I still want to get Breaking Sky for her because skills are cool, and Breaking Sky has the highest chance to keep cool all the time.

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Holy lancer all the way -though she looks really cool in witch class (too bad she has bad mag sighs)

this is the Oboro that I'm running (I think her crit could be better, gotta work on that)

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skills.jpg

also copycat is only for grinding purposes, I usually run vantage or warp maybe ~

idk I picked up too many skills for her xD

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