FE6 randomized draft

[Gradivus.]

So I'm not a big fan of the idea of randomizing the recruitment order and giving independent teams to each player, so let's try something different. Basically, everyone randomizes their rom before the drafting phase, and each character is draftable exactly one time. Mention the classes when picking your units.

Drafting:
1. This draft is for 5 players.
2. Roy, Marcus and Merlinus are free for all to use.
3. One undrafted Dancer / Bard is free to use for each player.
4. One unit will remain undrafted.
5. The game will be played on Normal Mode.

Randomizer options:


Note: if a stat rolls more than +/- 3, I'll reduce the change to 3, and suggest you do it too. I'll leave that optional to keep things simple, though.

Rules:
1. Undrafted units may recruit characters, rescue undrafted units and NPCs, trade, visit Shops and Armories, and dig up items in the desert.
2. Undrafted units may not do anything not listed above, including but not limited to meatshielding, building Supports, and opening Doors or Chests.
3. Use of the Warp staff is allowed.
4. All Gaiden chapters are required to be visited. Chapter 20x (either route) does not count towards the total turncount up to 20 turns taken.
5. NPCs may do as they please without penalty.
6. The game must be played out to the True Ending.
7. Dancers / Bards may not dance for each other.
8. If you promote Roy, you are free to hack his auto-demotion after chapter 21x away.
9. Glitches caused by the randomizer may not be made use of. These include non-Roy Lords being able to seize and the possibility of moving units on tiles they cannot normally pass by using the drop command or a Warp/Rescue staff.

Penalties:
1. Undrafted units have a 4-turn penalty, per unit per chapter.
2. Dancers / Bards dancing for each other has a 15-turn penalty, per chapter.

Exceptions:
1. Undrafted Thieves may be used to obtain necessary promotion items.

Teams:
Gradivus.: Mercenary!Roy, Druid!Marcus, Bard!Shin + Nomad!Lugh, Wyvern Rider!Noah, Fighter!Lance, Cleric!Wolt, Dancer!Zeiss, Lord!Saul, Thief!Barth, Sniper!Dayan, Sage!Karel, Berserker!Bartre
fireemblemcai: Shaman!Roy, mManakete!Marcus, Bard!Bors + Nomad!Chad, Mage!Miledy, Wyvern Rider!Treck, Cavalier!Ward, Cleric!Gonzales, Bard!Astore, Cavalier!Hugh, General!Douglas, Nomad Trooper!Fa, Mercenary!Lalum
TempestStorm: Knight!Roy, Nomad Trooper!Marcus, Bard!Ray + Wyvern Rider!Alan, Falcoknight!Zealot, Archer!Lot, Pegasus Knight!Dorothy, Hero!Igrene, Myrmidon!Wendy, Shaman!Clarine, Thief!Elphin, Druid!Yuno, Nomad!Cath
Irysa: Shaman!Roy, Hero!Marcus, Troubadour!Alan + Cavalier!Dieck, Pegasus Knight!Ellen, Nomad!Shanna, Wyvern Rider!Ray, Druid!Percival, Pirate!Bors, Wyvern Rider!Fir, Falcoknight!Yodel, Valkyrie!Niime, Pirate!Tate
Sniper Knight: Archer!Roy, Warrior!Marcus, Dancer!Ellen + Wyvern Rider!Oujay, Druid!Klein, Cavalier!Geese, Mage!Rutger, Falcoknight!Echidna, Wyvern Lord!Cecilia, Dancer!Lilina, Myrmidon!Sue, Nomad Trooper!Garret, Pegasus Knight!Sophia

[spoiler=Remaining units]Shin

The randomizer: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=55809

Edited December 19, 2015 by Gradivus.

[Irysa]

I think I'll enter this, but just to clarify, we all randomise our own ROMs first, then list our changelog, then start picking?

[Gradivus.]

I thought about having everyone publish their cast before, but when I tried doing it with mine I stopped when I was like 1/4 through my changelog because it's tedious. Just noting down the classes of your drafted units should be enough. (it also fits the randomness better than making everything transparent tbh)

example: I pick Nomad Alan, you pick Cav Bors etc.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Gradivus.

[Sniper Knight]

What about Mamkutes? Are they banned or is each player allowed to have one?

[Gradivus.]

Draftable, they're just strong combat units with 5 mov, unless someone proves they're worth a rule.

Also removed the 2-turn penalty special rule for the first 5 chapters, it shouldn't be too hard to keep undrafteds out of range, especially when Merlinus can play bait on a tile with terrain bonuses.

Edited November 14, 2015 by Gradivus.

[TempestStorm]

I'm at work right now but I'm in. I'll have my stuff ready by 8 est

[Sniper Knight]

I'll try this out. We could share changelogs through Google Drive or something, if you want us to.

[TempestStorm]

Also my suggestion is to just ban promoting Roy on your own (has to be forced). My Roy is gonna SUCK either way

[Gradivus.]

I'm not really convinced on why we should wait out the forced promotion, it always sucks to have Roy in vanilla FE6 be stuck as unpromoted for a long time anyway, so I don't see why it wouldn't be fair. I mean, this isn't original FE6 anyway, so I wouldn't add a rule against an item promotion on Roy for that reason alone, and in other hacks like RR it also is considered fair to promote the Lord (in RR's case, Karel).

You can edit the demotion away quite easily using Nightmare: http://www.feshrine.net/hacking/nightmare.php Download the original version and the FE6 module, then load rom, load module -> class editor, choose your Roy's promoted class, change the "promotes to" field where the unpromoted class initially stands into the name of the promoted one, hit enter and save the rom.

My Roy will probably be godlike but the most of my other units are chumps haha.

#steroyds

@Sniper Knight I think we should purposely not share the logs before the drafting phase to keep them invisible to the rest, which may or may not turn out to be a better idea than just uploading them directly.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Gradivus.

[TempestStorm]

My Roy is a fem Knight. :(

[Irysa]

I have a Shaman Roy with 2 base speed. That's slightly better I guess.

[TempestStorm]

Anything is better than 1 base speed fem knight Roy. I see a lot of Marcus abuse in the name of finishing chapters!

[Irysa]

Why does the randomiser not adhere the the guideline of base variance anyway? Some of my characters have base variance of up to 7, and I definitely set 3.

[TempestStorm]

Hp is 1-5, str/mag/spd/def is 1-2, skl/res is 1-3, luck is 1-4. Plus randomizing makes it crazy so I'd just roll with the suggestion up top. I did that.

[Irysa]

It's hella tedious going through the entire list checking for where it's gone for more than three though...do we have to do this for enemies as well?

[Gradivus.]

Do it for the units you draft only, the stats on the rest won't matter.

Not sure about changing bosses back, it's up to you.

Edited November 15, 2015 by Gradivus.

[fireemblemcai]

if theres still a spot im in

[TempestStorm]

So as a hypothetical question...

Let's say Wolt is a troubadour, and comes with a...Torch staff. Would we be allowed to hack a Heal staff in? This could really change draft strategies.

[Gradivus.]

You must keep the randomized items.

I take Nomad!Lugh.

btw, I don't think warp necessarily needs to be banned, maybe we should allow it to try it out. Ideas?

Edited November 15, 2015 by Gradivus.

[TempestStorm]

I'm for allowing it. At least I know what early character I'm NOT taking now.

[Irysa]

I have zero bards or dancers, so I'm going to lose anyway, allow it.

Edited November 15, 2015 by Irysa

[Gradivus.]

It might be fine to rerandomize for dancers. I didn't want to make any written rules about when to rerandomize because it's pretty arbitrary. Seems like I'll allow Warp though. 60% of my unpromoted units are staff users with kind of poor magic haha.

Edited November 24, 2015 by Gradivus.

[Irysa]

Nah I'm not going to rerandomise. That's not in the spirit of it.

[TempestStorm]

My bards are Sophia and Ray

[Sniper Knight]

Warp kind of seems like a bad idea, since some people might not have good healers? That being said, I'd say yes to warp since I do.