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Choosing the Best Class for Rinkah (Poll 19)

Which is the best class for Rinkah?  

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  1. 1. Optimization Poll: Which is the optimal class for Rinkah?

    • Basara
      3
    • Berserker
      10
    • Blacksmith
      13
    • Brave Hero
      2
    • Exorcist
      0
    • Falcon Warrior
      0
    • General
      0
    • Golden-Kite Warrior
      0
    • Great Knight
      2
    • Holy Bowman
      0
    • Holy Lancer
      0
    • Jonin
      0
    • Maid
      0
    • Paladin
      0
    • Puppeteer
      0
    • Shura
      6
    • Strategist
      0
    • Trueblade
      0
    • War Priestess
      0
    • Weapon Master
      0
    • I don't really know.
      3
  2. 2. Practicality Poll (Birthright): Which is the most practical class for Rinkah in the Birthright campaign?

    • Basara
      3
    • Blacksmith
      11
    • Exorcist
      0
    • Falcon Warrior
      0
    • Golden-Kite Warrior
      0
    • Great Knight
      1
    • Holy Bowman
      0
    • Holy Lancer
      0
    • Jonin
      0
    • Maid
      0
    • Paladin
      0
    • Puppeteer
      0
    • Shura
      14
    • Strategist
      0
    • Trueblade
      0
    • War Priestess
      0
    • Weapon Master
      1
    • I'm going to bench Rinkah.
      9
  3. 3. Preference Poll: Which class do you like the best for Rinkah?

    • Basara
      4
    • Berserker
      7
    • Blacksmith
      6
    • Brave Hero
      1
    • Exorcist
      0
    • Falcon Warrior
      0
    • General
      0
    • Golden-Kite Warrior
      0
    • Great Knight
      0
    • Holy Bowman
      0
    • Holy Lancer
      0
    • Jonin
      0
    • Maid
      0
    • Paladin
      0
    • Puppeteer
      0
    • Shura
      19
    • Strategist
      0
    • Trueblade
      0
    • War Priestess
      0
    • Weapon Master
      0
    • She's fine with any class.
      2
  4. 4. DLC Poll: Which DLC class do you like the best for Rinkah?

    • Dark Falcon
      1
    • Dread Fighter
      25
    • Great Lord
      4
    • Witch
      0
    • I don't plan on using DLC classes.
      9
  5. 5. Optional Poll: Which character would you like to vote on next poll?

    • Pieri
      3
    • Setsuna
      6
    • Effie
      4
    • Nishiki
      1
    • Tsukuyomi
      0
    • Jakob
      1
    • Belka
      4
    • Flora
      2
    • Luna
      4
    • Saizou
      0
    • Hana
      3
    • Ryoma
      3
    • Flannel
      3
    • I don't really care.
      5


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Rinkah. A savage from the Fire Tribe; raised as the chieftains daughter. Although she has a strong-minded and courageous personality, she gets mad easily and lacks calmness. She adheres to her tribes law of solitude. Has the highest body temperature.
[spoiler=Marriage/Buddy Seals]
Spoiler (Marriage/Buddy Seals)

A Marriage/Buddy seal allows a unit to reclass into one of the select class trees of his spouse (S support) or buddy (A+ support). A unit may only achieve an S support with units of the opposite gender (exc. Kamui, Syalla, Zero), and may only achieve an A+ support with units of the same gender.

(The credit for the following information goes to Gayserbeam, as I copied the wording of his explanation. Check out the Class Changing and Inheritance Thread for more information.

  • If the users Primary Class is different than their Spouses/Buddy's Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddy's Primary Class, even if the user has that class as a Secondary Class already.
  • If the users Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddy's Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddy's Secondary Class.
  • If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class.
    • An unlearnable class is a class that may be unique to a character or their children. The following units have unlearnable classes: Nishiki (Fox Spirit), Flannel (Garou), Azura (Singer), Mozume (Villager).
  • If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, and their Primary Class is the same as their Spouses/Buddys Secondary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouses/Buddys Substitute Class.
    • A Substitute Class is simply a select class a character with an unlearnable class passes down under certain circumstances. The following units have Substitute Classes: Nishiki (Herb Merchant), Flannel (Outlaw), Azura (Rod Knight), Mozume (Herb Merchant).


If you're still confused, let me use Rinkah as an example to try and clarify matters!

  • Rinkah/Silas: Rinkah's Primary Class is Oni Savage, and Silas's is Cavalier. Therefore, Rinkah would Marriage Seal into Cavalier.
    • Rinkah/Kaze: Rinkah's Primary Class is Oni Savage, and Kaze's is Ninja. Therefore, Rinkah would Buddy Seal into Ninja. As Rinkah's Secondary Class is Ninja, he would not receive a new class tree from Kaze.
  • Rinkah has no fellow Oni Savage to be supported
  • Rinkah/Nishiki: As Nishiki's Primary Class is Fox Spirit, an unlearnable class, Rinkah would Marriage Seal into his Secondary Class-- Pegasus Warrior.
  • Rinkah/Oni Savage!Avatar: Avatar's Primary Class is Nohr Prince, an unlearnable class. Rinkah's Primary Class is Oni Savage, and Avatar's Secondary Class is Oni Savage. Therefore, Rinkah would Marriage Seal into his Substitute Class-- Fighter.


[spoiler=Possible Classes]

  • Classes in red are ones Rinkah can only achieve in either the Birthright or the Revelation campaign.
  • Classes in blue are ones Rinkah can only achieve in the Revelation campaign.

Base Classes (8H, 4N, 12T)

  • Bowman
  • Cavalier
  • Fighter
  • Knight
  • Lance Fighter
  • Ninja
  • Oni Savage
  • Pegasus Warrior
  • Priestess
  • Rod Knight
  • Samurai
  • Spellcaster


Promoted Classes (13H, 7N, 20T)

  • Basara
  • Berserker
  • Blacksmith
  • Brave Hero
  • Exorcist
  • Falcon Warrior
  • General
  • Golden-Kite Warrior
  • Great Knight
  • Holy Bowman
  • Holy Lancer
  • Jonin
  • Maid
  • Paladin
  • Puppeteer
  • Shura
  • Strategist
  • Trueblade
  • Weapon Master
  • Wyvern Lord


[spoiler=Expansion of Possible Classes]
Primary Base Class:
Oni Savage
Primary Promoted Classes: Blacksmith, Shura
Secondary Base Class: Ninja
Secondary Promoted Classes: Jonin, Puppeteer

Marriage Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the spouses. we listed the Birthright characters first, the Conquest characters second, and the shared characters last.

  • Asama: Priestess -> Exorcist, War Priestess
  • Hinata: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master
  • Nishiki: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist
  • Ryoma: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master
  • Saizou: n/a
  • Subaki: Pegasus Warrior -> Falcon Warrior, Golden-Kite Warrior
  • Takumi: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Holy Bowman
  • Tsukuyomi: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist

  • Benoit: Knight -> General, Great Knight
  • Flannel: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero
  • Jakob: Rod Knight -> Butler, Strategist
  • Kaze: n/a
  • Silas: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin


Buddy Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the buddies. we listed the Birthright characters first, the Conquest characters second, and the shared characters last.

  • Kagerou: n/a
  • Oboro: Lance Fighter -> Basara, Holy Lancer
  • Orochi: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist
  • Charlotte: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero



[spoiler=Notice]

  • In the previous optional poll, Jakob and Nishiki tied at 2nd (technically 2.5). Therefore, Jakob Nishiki would get 3 votes each.
  • Arthur received no votes. So he will be out for 2 polls (returns poll 21).
  • Ryoma, Flannel and Hana has been added back to the poll. if it is demonstrated again is that the forum is not interested in them: Ryoma and Flannel will be out for 4 polls (poll 24); Jakob will be out for 8 polls (poll 28).
  • Note: If you plan to go through multiple classes, vote for the Final/Endgame class (except for preference, vote for whatcha like).


[spoiler=Possible Skills]
Personal Skill: Flame Blood: When users HP is not full, damage +4
Skills are organized alphabetically based on the classes. Within the classes, skills are listed in the order of achievement (e.g. a GK earns Luna at Lvl. 5 and Diamond Strike at Lvl. 15, so Luna is listed before Diamond Strike).

Base class skills are listed before promoted class skills. Descriptions of skills Sakura can acquire through her primary and secondary class trees are listed below.

Descriptions of all the skills are located on the skills pages.

Base Classes Skills

  • Bowman: Skill +2, Prescient Victory
  • Cavalier: Open Assault, Rescue
  • Fighter: HP +5, Roundhouse
  • Knight: Defense +2, Confined Defense
  • Lance Fighter: Defence Seal, Substitute
  • Ninja: Locktouch, Snake Venom
  • Oni Savage: Resistance Seal, Shove
  • Pegasus Warrior: Swallow Strike, Eastern Heart
  • Priestess: Miracle, Rally Luck
  • Rod Knight: Resistance +2, Distinguished Son
  • Samurai: Flowing Strike Vantage
  • Spellcaster: Magic +2, Fortune
  • Wyvern Rider: Strength +2, Cut Through

Promoted Classes Skills

  • Basara: Breaking Sky, Flamboyant
  • Berserker: Rally Strength, Axefaire
  • Blacksmith: Smithy Skill, Lancebreaker
  • Brave Hero: Sol, Axebreaker
  • Exorcist: Rally Magic, Tomefaire
  • Falcon Warrior: Rally Speed, Mirror Strike
  • General: Defensive Formation, Pavise
  • Golden-Kite Warrior: Soar, Sun God
  • Great Knight: Luna, Diamond Strike
  • Holy Bowman: Raven Strike, Bowfaire
  • Holy Lancer: Speed Sealm, Lancefaire
  • Jonin: Lethality, Kunaifaire
  • Maid: Servant's Joy, Tomebreaker
  • Paladin: Defender, Aegis
  • Puppeteer: Puppet Break, Copycat Puppet
  • Shura: Ogre Strike, Counter
  • Strategist: Rally Resistance, Battle Command
  • Trueblade: Astra, Swordfaire
  • Weapon Master: Strength Seal, Line of Death


Resistance Seal: After battle, enemys Resistance -6
Shove: Select the Shove command to push an adjacent ally 1 tile
Smithy Skill: When user triggers the battle, Luck% chance of receiving a Katana, Naginata, Club, Yumi or Shuriken if the user defeats the enemy
Lancebreaker: Hit rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a Lance
Ogre Strike: When user triggers the battle, Critical rate +20
Counter: When an adjacent enemy triggers the battle and inflicts damage, the enemy receives the same damage

Locktouch: User can open doors and chests without requiring keys
Snake Venom: When user triggers the battle, the enemys HP is reduced by 20% after the battle
Lethality: Skill x 0.25% chance of instantly defeating the enemy when dealing 1 or more damage
Kunaifaire: When user is equipped with a Kunai, damage +5 during battle
Puppet Break: Attacks are effective against Puppeteers, Puppets and Golems
Copycat Puppet: Select the Copycat command once per map to create a puppet with the same appearance, stats, inventory and HP as the user
(Anything that happens to the puppet happens to the user and vice versa even death)


For more info about stats and growths, please go to http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-fates/
[spoiler=Summary]

Optimal

1. Blacksmith [37.50%]

2. Berserker [21.88%]

3. Shura [18.75%]

Practical (Birthright)

1. Shura [37.50%]

2. Blacksmith [25.00%]

3. Basara [9.38%]

Preference

1. Shura [53.12%]

2. Blacksmith [18.75%]

3.5 Basara [12.50%]

3.5 Berserker [12.50%]

Optional Poll

1. Setsuna (5 votes)[15.62%]

3.5. Effie (4 votes)[12.50%]

3.5. Belka (4 votes)[12.50%]

3.5. Nishiki (1+3 votes)[3.12%]

3.5. Jakob (1+3 votes)[3.12%]

Next poll, we will be voting for Setsuna

Edited by Jayvee94

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Berserker.

It'll resolve her HP growing issue and along with Ogre Strike and Sol...it'll be worthwhile.

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I'll say Blacksmith or Berserker for most optimal, but I'll be using her as a Shura every time because I love that class and not many other characters get access to it without Buddying or marrying/being the child of Rinkah, so I'd just love for it to get the use~

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I really like Shura even though it isn't practical or optimal. As far as those two go, probably Blacksmith.

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On a purely theorycrafting level, my concern with making Rinkah a Berserker would be how badly it axes her defensive stats. She's got precious little RES as it is and a lot of HP to make up for. She WOULD really like having HP +5, Roundhouse, and Axefaire, though, so it's definitely a class she'd love to have access to. I'm just not sure it's the best class for her to stay in.

As best I can tell by looking at her, Rinkah's purpose is to build DEF to the point that she only just barely gets chipped by anything coming her way, then rely on crits and Flame Blood to rack up damage in return. I like the sound of Blacksmith!Rinkah a lot - 20% HP, 15% STR and DEF - but it does murder on her RES (though not as bad as Berserker). Sending her Dread Fighter would help patch it over, but that's an investment I imagine not everybody wants to make. Shura has +3 base RES and can use Horse God to get some more, so that's probably the "easiest" Rinkah to build.

I think I'm going to say I prefer Blacksmith!Rinkah, Buddied to Oboro on Hoshido for Speed Seal or Charlotte on Revelation because obvious.

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I'm gonna bench her in all of my runs *w*

If I have to vote for a favorite class, I would choose Shura for the aesthetics. Practical is probably Blacksmith but I don't really know.

Edited by Ryo

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She does well with a Bolt Axe as a Shura if you throw a few +magic stat boosters her way (Orochi and Sakura don't need them anyway). It's not worth investing in Tomes however, unless you hope to get lucky with Ogre Strike. Spending a level as a Blacksmith to get Smithy Skill is probably worth your while as well.

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Majority Votes

Optimal: Berserker, Blacksmith, Shura

Practical (Birthright): Basara, Blacksmith, Shura

Preferred: Basara, Berserker, Blacksmith, Shura

DLC: Dread Fighter

Optional Poll: Setsuna, Belka, Nishiki, Jakob, Ryoma

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