Giga Man Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Yes, they never fully answered about touching them beyond tapping/rubbing the screen to wake them up, so I wouldn't jump down Kotaku's throats yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 So, Kotaku jumped the gun without proper information? In other news, water is wet and the sky is blue. And now I'm going to edit the topic title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Agreed with the above. As much as people want to say their rage against Kotaku was justified, it doesn't sound like they were wrong. All they've confirmed is that the 'wake up' and 'post bath blow' (Phrasing!) events are in. We don't know if the full rubbing feature is back. Edited February 10, 2016 by NekoKnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreejules Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Agreed with the above. As much as people want to say their rage against Kotaku was justified, it doesn't sound like they were wrong. All they've confirmed is that the 'wake up' and 'post bath blow' (Phrasing!) events are in. We don't know if the full rubbing feature is back. I think what bothered me the most was that Kotaku did say it was 100% out - when technically, as it has been confirmed, it was not 100% out. So in some ways they did still jump to conclusions or it could even just be the fact that they interpreted what they heard as it being 100% gone. Because technically, the act of petting is still there - it just isn't the full blown skinship like it is in the Japanese version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time the Crestfallen Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Meanwhile at lying, no good, scum of the journalism industry, controversy mongering fucktards destined to burn in the Ninth Circle of Hell Kotaku Headquarters: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Skinship is still in, but for S supports only? That's ok, I guess. I'll try it out a few times for laughs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) I think what bothered me the most was that Kotaku did say it was 100% out - when technically, as it has been confirmed, it was not 100% out. So in some ways they did still jump to conclusions or it could even just be the fact that they interpreted what they heard as it being 100% gone. Because technically, the act of petting is still there - it just isn't the full blown skinship like it is in the Japanese version. Maybe, but as far as they've confirmed, skinship is still 99% out of the game and whether that last 1% counts or not is a matter of interpretation. I always associated 'skinship' with the rubbing of characters, while they mutter affectionate phrases, until their heart meter fills out, so I still consider Kotaku completely correct here. Getting on Kotaku's case about the subjective 1% is about as petty as attacking someone's typos to say their whole argument was worthless. If the full rubbing feature is still in the game, I'll agree with the Kotaku bashers, however. Edited February 10, 2016 by NekoKnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirokan Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 My main punishment method is gone! xD Now I can only punish close people. Indeed, I've been hearing that thing about "wake up" and such too. I guess we can wait for the game to come out before misunderstanding/fully understanding anything else, lest Soleil's mishap be repeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryhard Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 This makes even less sense as to why they took down the original direct. Have to agree with Neko, it's not like they seem to be able to get a straight answer so I can't really fault Kotaku that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Geargia Gateway Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Is, Kotaku, really in need of hate for this one? Nintendo did say they removed it, themselves, through replied messages. So Kotaku were right at that point, and if it's only poking to wake them up, having convo's, then the skinship is gone, right? So Kotaku is right to a degree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Steel Wing Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I have to say, this was all just a big confusing mess of rumours, leaks, incomplete statements, exaggeration, speculation, information, and misinformation. If only Nintendo had communicated better with the public and the fans, and been clear on what will and will not be present in the Western version, this whole mess could have been avoided. Now that we have more proper information from people who have actually played review copies of the English version, it turns out the localization wasn't that bad, content was not removed, and that the censorship was very minimal. A few things are still unclear and uncertain and remain to be resolved. Ideally we want full information before rushing to conclusions, but when we only have uncertain tidbits, we make do with what we have, and that's what fuelled this firestorm. When finally got actual solid information, whoops, it turns out the assumptions were wrong and there was no need for such an uproar after all. I'm tempted to say this whole affair was caused by a lack of information and communication... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genevie Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 skinship for S rank only? ....they should give us more save slot, so i can pat2 the boys :> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delfino Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) I have to say, this was all just a big confusing mess of rumours, leaks, incomplete statements, exaggeration, speculation, information, and misinformation. If only Nintendo had communicated better with the public and the fans, and been clear on what will and will not be present in the Western version, this whole mess could have been avoided. Now that we have more proper information from people who have actually played review copies of the English version, it turns out the localization wasn't that bad, content was not removed, and that the censorship was very minimal. A few things are still unclear and uncertain and remain to be resolved. Ideally we want full information before rushing to conclusions, but when we only have uncertain tidbits, we make do with what we have, and that's what fuelled this firestorm. When finally got actual solid information, whoops, it turns out the assumptions were wrong and there was no need for such an uproar after all. I'm tempted to say this whole affair was caused by a lack of information and communication... I agree with this. People all over the internet have been crying "censorship" and disliking videos of Fates and claiming that the localization is a "butchered" version of the game when in reality, very, very little has been changed or removed. I mean thinking about it, the only things that have been confirmed to be changed would be Soleil's supports (and let's be honest, that was for good reason) and the ability to rub everyone's faces, which really got old fast. That's about it, isn't it? I almost feel bad for Nintendo due to all the heat they've been getting over all this when it's really not that bad, but they certainly should have been more open with the fanbase as opposed to being all tight-lipped about the whole thing. They left people to stew in their own anxieties and assume the worst. Edited February 10, 2016 by Delfino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Geargia Gateway Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) skinship for S rank only? ....they should give us more save slot, so i can pat2 the boys :> Pretty sure the SE has 9 slots? Edited February 10, 2016 by Great Geargia Gateway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynsanity Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Well I'm glad the tap/rub to wake up events are still there, which is NOT the same as skinship, but still provides a nice bit of interaction. What I'm even more interested in from the Gamespot review is where they talk about looking up and down at the character models in My Room. My main complaint was that it looked to be fixed on their face, and lasted like two seconds. But maybe if you input with the circle pad it lasts longer? I don't know if this sounds lewd or whatever but I want to take the complete models in, and at my own pace dangit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zervinio Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I think that what she says is that the petting feature is in, just exclusive to your waifu/husbando. She clearly states when they ask her about the new features when someone gets married that "there is the petting and..."so yeah petting is still in. I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elibean Spaceman Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 "WHY NINTENDO WHY DID YOU FUCKING- Wait, it's in the game after all? But you can only do it with your S-support? FUCK GRAND THEFT AUTO V, I'M PLAYING THIS GAME AFTER ALL!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayClouds23 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Petting is confirmed to be in with your S supports I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Karnage Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I just watched the gamexplain video, there were obvious cuts between scenes but now I'm unsure if you can still rub your spouse's face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomalocaris Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I don't think standard skinship is in. I'm pretty sure they're just referring to the wakeup minigame, not skinship proper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giga Man Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 https://youtu.be/hd49IeQ2yz0?t=518 The GameXplain video proves Kotaku right. Skinship is out. The only thing you use the touch screen for is waking up your spouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REL Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I agree with this. People all over the internet have been crying "censorship" and disliking videos of Fates and claiming that the localization is a "butchered" version of the game when in reality, very, very little has been changed or removed. I mean thinking about it, the only things that have been confirmed to be changed would be Soleil's supports (and let's be honest, that was for good reason) and the ability to rub everyone's faces, which really got old fast. That's about it, isn't it? I almost feel bad for Nintendo due to all the heat they've been getting over all this when it's really not that bad, but they certainly should have been more open with the fanbase as opposed to being all tight-lipped about the whole thing. They left people to stew in their own anxieties and assume the worst. I have a hard time feeling sympathetic for Nintendo because they brought it all on themselves. They could have gotten out in front of it pretty damn quickly, and given a proper explanation, but instead they stood mute and gave non-answers to folks, fueling speculation and distrust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solrocknroll Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have a hard time feeling sympathetic for Nintendo because they brought it all on themselves. They could have gotten out in front of it pretty damn quickly, and given a proper explanation, but instead they stood mute and gave non-answers to folks, fueling speculation and distrust. They don't owe people answers though. I highly doubt that they intended Kotaku to go reveal it in the first place. They already addressed Soleil, so I don't think that they need to clarify everything because some people feel the need to fear monger. By this point, it's barely a problem and a lesson learned. No need to actually remember this debacle. Nintendo has too much amazing stuff to get caught up in some tiny little instance like skinshipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REL Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 They don't owe people answers though. I highly doubt that they intended Kotaku to go reveal it in the first place. They already addressed Soleil, so I don't think that they need to clarify everything because some people feel the need to fear monger. By this point, it's barely a problem and a lesson learned. No need to actually remember this debacle. Nintendo has too much amazing stuff to get caught up in some tiny little instance like skinshipping. I don't think it's a matter of owing people answers. It's a matter of good PR. If a month before the release of a game that's a big enough deal that it gets a special edition that sells out in minutes, a special 3DS, and its main character included in Super Smash Bros' final push of DLC, the general press about said game suddenly becomes about either people not being able to get the special edition because Nintendo failed to meet demand (again) in addition to Gamestop's screwup (not on Nintendo but still a point against the game) or about the game being censored and how we're not going to get the full experience and such and such, I think it's in the company's best interest to try and get control over the story. Sitting on your hands and hoping things will play out in your favor is an idiotic move when you can put out the fire with a two sentence explanation and a 30 second video. And if they didn't think that a games journalist would write articles about them cutting content out of their games after they told them that they were cutting content out of their games, their PR is even dumber than I think it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuffPuff Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) 9:16-End You guys are in for some wonderful news. The skinship isn't completely gone. It is marriage only. You can still use the stylus to wake your wife up! GOOD! THANK YOU, NINTENDO. Not that I care but Japan should have done it this way. Edited February 11, 2016 by PuffPuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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