kantoorfarina Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) I've been meaning to make this thread for a long time. Anyway, what're your thoughts on all the DLC artwork of the previous lords? In my opinion, from best to worst: 1. Ephraim. Ephraim's artwork is really, really good in my opinion. It's drawn well and I love the armor. It's perfect. 2. Marth. It's fine. It's not drawn badly and it's the same clothes he usually wears. 3. Roy. Outfit is pretty cool in my opinion and it's drawn well. 4. Leif. Not much to say about it. It's good. 5. Alm. His face is drawn weirdly in my opinion, it's pretty good overall. 6. Seliph. Clothes look stupid, I kind of like the art style. It's unique compared to the rest of the artwork. 7. Lyn. It's not bad overall, but her legs are screwed up. 8. Elincia. I don't like the art style. The outfit is a bit over-designed. I don't like it but I don't hate it either. 9. Celica. I'm pretty sure this was drawn by a fetish artist. 10. Iketimus Prime. Why is Ike a cyborg with a sword arm? It looks really stupid honestly. 11. Eirika. Ugh. I really hate this one. It's just so degrading and I hate it. It's drawn well, at least. 12. Micaiah. I could look up "FE Micaiah R34" on deviantart and nothing that comes up would be half as degrading and stupid as Micaiah's DLC art. I guess she traded her nose for larger uncovered breasts, eyes bigger than her hands and an outfit that barely qualifies as clothing. But hey, that's all just my thoughts. Feel free to share yours. Edited February 5, 2016 by kantoorfarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twice Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I pretty much agree with everything you've listed, but Celica and Roy are my favourites! I really do like the artwork for the DLC though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrub_Lord Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) I love all of the dlc artwork! Faves being Roy,Lyn,Ike and Ephraim. Edited February 5, 2016 by scrub_Lord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastor15243 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 To be fair about Micaiah, they made all of the characters look like the classes they were in, so that was a natural consequence of their decision to turn all light magic users into dark magic users. ...Including Oliver. Thank the gods we never got a portrait of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kantoorfarina Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 To be fair about Micaiah, they made all of the characters look like the classes they were in, so that was a natural consequence of their decision to turn all light magic users into dark magic users. ...Including Oliver. Thank the gods we never got a portrait of him. I don't get why they didn't just make them Sages. That'd make a lot more sense. I agree, Dark Mage Oliver would be too hot for the world to handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonsOrigin Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Some of the girls got the fan service treatment but I wasn't very bothered by them. I personally feel that Ike was the worst out of them. The portrait itself was not bad. It just was not Ike. I'm already not a huge fan of Awakening's Hero armor and DLC Ike looked unusually asian when he's not supposed to be. This is easily forgiven however when I think that perhaps the artist was just experimenting drawing a familiar face in a new style. I like seeing art style transitions. It's fun and they tend not to be permanent. I'm just glad Ike looks like Ike in Fates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soranauta Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Seliph's artwork is the one that stuck with me the most, it's pleasant to look at, and it stands out nicely (it also made me pretty interested to find out more about him). However, I do agree in Ephraim being one of (if not) the best as the color palette, lines and overall the style and pose mesh really well and he looks badass and regal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) 6. Seliph. Clothes look stupid, I kind of like the art style. It's unique compared to the rest of the artwork. fite me but uh, maybe I'm just super negative, but I kinda hate/dislike/am very indifferent most of them most of it probably stems from how they based them all on their awakening class designs like marth's is really well drawn and is by the best fire emblem artist but he looks like lucina with marth's face edited on ike looks enough like ike but stupid sword arm plus the terribly boring awakening hero design ruin it for me ephraim's is good i guess he looks kinda like geoffrey which... might not be a coincidence eirika's is pretty well drawn, though it's strange seeing her as a bride. I much prefer her original design roy looks ok lyn looks nice leaf looks ok i love seliph's micaiah's is terrible what the fuck where did her nose go why are her boobs why is she making that face Edited February 5, 2016 by maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Something something off my lawn. Things were pretty bad when Micaiah was revealed to the world (the worst complaint being "but she can't sit like that", despite the fact that I sometimes will sit like that when I want to be comfy). To be fair about Micaiah, they made all of the characters look like the classes they were in, so that was a natural consequence of their decision to turn all light magic users into dark magic users. ...Including Oliver. Thank the gods we never got a portrait of him. Remember Nosferatu? Yeah. . . Ahem. . . The general rule for me was "dudes are cool, WTF ladies". One example WTF was Katarina and her ridiculous get-up (granted, it was bad in New Mystery, but Kozaki didn't really improve it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex95 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) 2. Marth. It's fine. It's not drawn badly and it's the same clothes he usually wears. Actually, he's wearing Lucina's outfit. Who in turn is based on Marth, so... I pretty much agree with you overall. Ephraim's the best for me, what's with Ike's sword arm (did the artist like Owain and wanted his catchphrase to become literal?), Celica was drawn by a porn artist, and Michaiah is definitely a fanservice. I just reclassed her into a Sage so she can use healing tomes (I don't know why she was a dark mage to begin with!) and when I get Katarina, I'll reclass her into a Grandmaster, because that's what she's shown as on her art, but she comes as a Sage. Although, I will say I like Alm second to Ephraim. My only gripe is that the Dread Fighter class didn't look like what Alm was wearing... I like how, because of Seliph's and Ephraim's artist, everyone FE is represented (I think), with the BS Archanea Chronicles artist being Seliph's and the Binding Blade mange artist being Ephraim's. Also, no opinion on the Pegasus Sisters? What gives? I like Palla's the best out of the three, mostly because of the detail. She's definitely in the top 5 for me. (Plus, her model has bright neon green hair!!) And Est was drawn by a Street Fighter artist too, so that's cool Edited February 5, 2016 by Power Master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdzgoboom Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Roy, Ephraim and Alm are top tier imo those three are amazing as hell a+++ give me all of their outfits please wow Leif's is awesome too, really dynamic. It fits him well I think. ... and I actually really liked Ike's DLC art, with his being in my top five. It seems I'm in the minority on that one. ;y but I also like the Hero armor in Awakening too, so... Seliph's is pretty neat, not quite as striking as some of the others to me where is sigurd Eirika's is beautiful and well-drawn but I would've rather seen her as a different class than bride. But the art itself is a+ Marth is Marth. Which is a good thing. He looks great. Lyn looks really awesome too-- I don't really see a thing about "messed up legs" since the whole style of the picture itself is really... well, stylized and has a lot of movement, so the legs/feet don't bother me, personally. Celica and Micaiah don't really remind me of their characters at all. ;-; Celica in particular looks really... young. Well, so does Micaiah. Uh... Elincia doesn't really remind me of Elincia too much either, idk. Looks a little too magical girl meets Battle Network meets FE to me... xD Personally I think Katarina looks cool. *shrug* Grandmaster clothes look nice on her. Better than New Mystery's clothes, lol. Idk if I missed anyone, but eh. Those are off the top of my head. eta: re:pegasus sisters. Catria is awesome.Est has approximately 400 too many wrinkles in her clothes and boots and gloves. :c Palla has super dynamic shading and I love that art style. Really solid piece of artwork overall. Edited February 5, 2016 by birdzgoboom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastor15243 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 The general rule for me was "dudes are cool, WTF ladies". One example WTF was Katarina and her ridiculous get-up (granted, it was bad in New Mystery, but Kozaki didn't really improve it). Eh, I thought Katarina looked cool as a Grandmaster. I don't like Katarina's design in general honestly, I think she looks better in Awakening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiance Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Man Ike lost some mad weight and strength. I wonder if it is a sword hand (Owain much?) I like Roy and Epharim the most. Legendary, while Ike went frail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geek Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yeah, Micaiah's is the only one that IMO stands out as bad. Then again, I'm not a big fan of Arco Wada's work in general. Even if I do like Fate/EXTRA. Takeuchi's art is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilentChloey Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I'm not really fussed over the DLC art. I like Marth because he's about the only guy that I ever managed to get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar_Yoshi Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Every time I look at Roy, I think of PM and cry. Katarina's is pretty cool. Since it's done by Kozaki, it fits a lot better with the rest of the game's art than the other styles. I think it's also the only official artwork of a female GM, since there are no ingame characters or enemies with GM as their default class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritisa Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) 9. Celica. I'm pretty sure this was drawn by a fetish artist. It was. *cough* though, me being me I prefer it that way <.<... It'd be almost enough to get me to play FE2! Ephraim's art looks amazing, I agree, though it's a shame Spotpass Ephraim is a better unit than DLC Ephraim, due to rightful king whereas conquest is kinda useless. Katarina's pose feels off to me, but she has a special place in my heart either way. I like how she's a tactician class, following in the footsteps of Kris. I just wish Katarina got an end-of-chapter conversation like everyone else... >: Funnily enough Micaiah was my first DLC unit, and it uh, shows, based on how many classes she's been through. I do immensely question their decision to make her a dark mage though, considering who she is. ._.; Roy and Lyn got absolutely amazing redesigns though, just a shame we won't see Lyn anywhere. At least Roy's design made it into Smash4. I like Elincia's new design but it doesn't feel very Elincia to me. It looks super cool but it's... Not something I'd imagine her wearing. Edited February 5, 2016 by Ritisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex95 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I just wish Katarina got an end-of-chapter conversation like everyone else... >:At least Roy's design made it into Smash4. The Pegasus Sisters didn't get one either. And Roy's design didn't make it into Smash 4, it was the leaked development of the Project M update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Things were pretty bad when Micaiah was revealed to the world (the worst complaint being "but she can't sit like that", despite the fact that I sometimes will sit like that when I want to be comfy). I think it's less the pose itself and more the rings around her leg while in that pose. Can't be comfortable with those big metal things there. Not that the dark mage outfit is really reasonable, anyway. My biggest issue with micaiah is that it felt so copy-paste from Tharja's design--when there's several other designs that have gone pretty custom, like Ephraim, Lyn (probably my favorite in terms of old-new design incorporation tbh), and even Elincia--I don't even like Elincia's new art or design but I can see they tried. Micaiah's design feel like the artist just didn't really try. It's worse when I decided I wanna design my own dark mage micaiah just to see a more custom version could be done and her original design actually transfers really well to DM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) Sure, I'll share my opinions. :) Ephraim: OMG, this is perfect! I love the armor and the style and the badass expression on this dude's face. <3 Marth: He looks way too young and girly here, imo. I don't like it at all. What was wrong with the manlier Marth in Shadow Dragon/New Mystery? Roy: Looks okay. For once, he doesn't look like a 14-15 year old. I prefer my combat-based characters to be at least 17-18. Any younger is just unrealistic and silly to me unless it's a Rolf/Mist situation where they decide they're just tired of sitting behind and worrying all the time. That's actually pretty realistic. Leif: I like it! Way better than Leif's original art, imo. Seliph: Ugh, this one looks so stupid. His face and outfit are totally dumb. I never liked Seliph's original design either, but...ew. Alm: I wish his face looked more serious and a bit older, but otherwise, it's pretty nice. Lyn: Awful. Hair looks like tape (I also felt this way about the hair in her original art too) and her feet are way too tiny. Style isn't impressive either. Elincia: I like it! She's cute, even though her legs look weird because it looks like one of them is missing. :/ Celica: This one's alright. I like the color scheme. Ike: WHAT THE HELL DID THIS ARTIST DO TO MY FAVORITE LORD?? This is one of the WORST of the bunch to me! Ike's sword arm looks stupid and like the sword is attached to his arm and he's way too short and scrawny. Where are his muscles?! His face looks dumb too. This piece is a disgrace to Ike's heroic name! Eirika: Looks okay, though I'm not too crazy about the dress. Micaiah: This is the only one I find to be even worse than Ike's. Micaiah would never dress like that and the ugly balloon boobs are so unrealistic and stupid. The pose is weird too. Est: Too shiny looking. She looks like she's made of glass. Not very good. Catria: This one is really nice! Though I never liked that the Dark Flier lacked chest armor. It's dumb to me. But that's the fault of the class design, not this art, so... Palla: Art style is bad, feet are too tiny, and the panty shot is disgusting. This one's actually as bad as Micaiah's, now that I think about it. Katarina: This one's alright, not bad at all. Edited February 7, 2016 by Anacybele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) I think it's less the pose itself and more the rings around her leg while in that pose. Can't be comfortable with those big metal things there. Not that the dark mage outfit is really reasonable, anyway. My biggest issue with micaiah is that it felt so copy-paste from Tharja's design--when there's several other designs that have gone pretty custom, like Ephraim, Lyn (probably my favorite in terms of old-new design incorporation tbh), and even Elincia--I don't even like Elincia's new art or design but I can see they tried. Micaiah's design feel like the artist just didn't really try. It's worse when I decided I wanna design my own dark mage micaiah just to see a more custom version could be done and her original design actually transfers really well to DM. It was actually the pose. Which I thought was silly, given the facial proportions, the too-long neck, the balloon boobs, and the cup of grape juice wine RIGHT next to her leg (along with a book). Micaiah was an especial disappointment because she was one of the snappiest dressers in FE. Of the other characters, most of the designs seem to "keep" something of the original character (Lyn has that pattern on her clothes, Elincia's shirt sort-of looks like it came from her dress AND she keeps her weird orange color scheme, Ephraim looks like he slapped on a suit of armor over his original duds, Katarina's miniskirt became even dumber, etc.). EDIT: And Ana confirms that it is indeed the pose. Edited February 5, 2016 by eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yeah, I just now tried to sit like Micaiah does in that pic, and it's SO uncomfortable and even painful. Although it could be partly because I'm not very flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yeah, I just now tried to sit like Micaiah does in that pic, and it's SO uncomfortable and even painful. Although it could be partly because I'm not very flexible. Definitely possible! Mom and I will sit like that when we're at someone's house. It's a lot more comfortable for me, at least, when I'm eating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I think it might be a bone structure thing rather than flexibility alone -- I can't pull it off either despite being above average levels of flexible (see: I can pull off RL BnB pose to about a 100 degree twist or so but I would most definitely not recommend it standing up), but my friend can despite being less flexible than I am-she slides really easily into that pose too. We have drastically different bone structures. But the rings definitely would hurt even if you're the few who can pull off that pose. Another thing I didn't like about Micaiah was just the vacuous facial expression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex95 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I can sit like Micaiah, but then again, I can also bend my fingers all the way backwards. I guess I'm just flexible XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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