PunkRoseBlitz Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Since Fates is around the corner, I have planned on what classes I will reclass into. Since my unit starts off as a Nohr Princess, I planned to reclass her as a Samurai for Astra and maybe Swordfaire. My problem is that I also want to promote to a Great Lord for Aether and Awakening. So far, my plan is this: Nohr Princess->Samurai/Swordmaster->Great Lord->Hoshido Noble Planned skill set: Aether, Awakening, Dragon Fang, Astra, Hoshido If anyone has advice on what level to reclass to the middle classes, switch their order, etc., I will be eternally grateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledrert Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) So, let's see... Dragon Fang is at lvl 10 of Nohr Princess... Astra at lvl 5 of Swordmaster Hoshido at lvl 15 of Hoshido Noble Aether at 25 and Awakening at 35 of Great Lord... (which correspond respectively to a promoted unit lvl 5 and 15) We have : Nohr princess -> Hoshido Noble lvl5 -> Swordmaster lvl 5 -> Great Lord lvl 35 -> Hoshido Noble. But are you sure of that ? You'll have three active skills in it... Edited February 14, 2016 by Ledrert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 A few questions for specifics: -Asset/Flaw? -In-game or postgame? -What difficulty? -Grinding or no? Because you have to keep in mind that Seals are rarer, money is finite without DLC, and you only get so many levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRoseBlitz Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 A few questions for specifics: -Asset/Flaw? -In-game or postgame? -What difficulty? -Grinding or no? Because you have to keep in mind that Seals are rarer, money is finite without DLC, and you only get so many levels. -My asset/flaw is +Skill/-Magic, though I might change the flaw to Luck.-In-Game -Hard + Casual (just to get the feel of the gameplay before doing Classic and for story reasons lol) -Since I'm doing Birthright first, I plan to do limited grinding so I can give myself a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) -My asset/flaw is +Skill/-Magic, though I might change the flaw to Luck. -In-Game -Hard + Casual (just to get the feel of the gameplay before doing Classic and for story reasons lol) -Since I'm doing Birthright first, I plan to do limited grinding so I can give myself a challenge. Why would you want +Skill??? Also, personally, I'd recommend against a Luck flaw... Edited February 14, 2016 by Levant Colthearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRoseBlitz Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) Why would you want +Skill??? Also, personally, I'd recommend against a Luck flaw...Is it bad to have +Skill? :( What would you recommend then? Edited February 14, 2016 by PunkRoseBlitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) Is it bad to have +Skill? :( What would you recommend then? It's more that +Skill isn't that big a help in the grand scheme of things. I'd recommend +Str instead. Edited February 14, 2016 by Levant Colthearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) In this game, +Str or +Mag are regarded as the best assets. Honestly, I don't think that your class path is doable if you want to Reclass anyone else. I don't know exactly how many seals you get, mind, but even if you do you won't be getting very much EXP and it could be tedious to train. Really you don't need to have optimized skills, it's just overkill at that point. I'd just go Nohr Princess --> Samurai --> Swordmaster. If you really wanted to you could jump back to Hoshido Noble, but if you do wind up running +Str/-Mag, your speed won't be anything to write home about, whereas with Swordmaster you will still be able to do a ton of damage and you will never have to worry about Spd problems. However, you will mostly just be fighting slow Nohr enemies, so you should be fine. Edited February 14, 2016 by JothTheConqueror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenlance7 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 why does everyone say skill isn't good as an asset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRoseBlitz Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) In this game, +Str or +Mag are regarded as the best assets. Honestly, I don't think that your class path is doable if you want to Reclass anyone else. I don't know exactly how many seals you get, mind, but even if you do you won't be getting very much EXP and it could be tedious to train. Really you don't need to have optimized skills, it's just overkill at that point. I'd just go Nohr Princess --> Samurai --> Swordmaster. If you really wanted to you could jump back to Hoshido Noble, but if you do wind up running +Str/-Mag, your speed won't be anything to write home about, whereas with Swordmaster you will still be able to do a ton of damage and you will never have to worry about Spd problems. However, you will mostly just be fighting slow Nohr enemies, so you should be fine.Thanks for the help! I'll take this into consideration for my first playthrough. ^_^ Edited February 14, 2016 by PunkRoseBlitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) You're welcome! Have fun! @goldenlance7, it's just that a few points of Str, Mag, or Spd are worth more than a few points of Skl in the long run. Edited February 14, 2016 by JothTheConqueror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Giamatti Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 In this game, +Str or +Mag are regarded as the best assets. Honestly, I don't think that your class path is doable if you want to Reclass anyone else. I don't know exactly how many seals you get, mind, but even if you do you won't be getting very much EXP and it could be tedious to train. Really you don't need to have optimized skills, it's just overkill at that point. I'd just go Nohr Princess --> Samurai --> Swordmaster. If you really wanted to you could jump back to Hoshido Noble, but if you do wind up running +Str/-Mag, your speed won't be anything to write home about, whereas with Swordmaster you will still be able to do a ton of damage and you will never have to worry about Spd problems. However, you will mostly just be fighting slow Nohr enemies, so you should be fine. Oh, it's perfectly doable. Her build only uses one Heart Seal early on, and one in the late game where they're infinitely buyable. First seal from the shop can go to Corrin, and that leaves the ch 13 and seal from the second shop to someone else. Or you could even use the ch 13 on Corrin and the first seal on someone else since Corrin doesn't need to go Samurai asap. The skill-stacking is overkill, but it's still fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 why does everyone say skill isn't good as an asset? A few extra points of skill don't mean much in the long run relative to a few extra points of Str, Mag, Speed, or even Defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenlance7 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) A few extra points of skill don't mean much in the long run relative to a few extra points of Str, Mag, Speed, or even Defence.) oh I see I guess I'll invest in something else. (time to look at what all the stats do!) thank you for your response! EDIT; what would be a good asset/flaw build if I'm going to pair wit Beruka? Edited February 14, 2016 by goldenlance7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) Go with +Spd -Def if you love your daughter whatsoever. Beruka's Spd is bad. Unfortunately her Str is, too, but that only counts for postgame, and this is in-game. E: You could also just throw Spd to the wind, go with +Str -Mag, be in a speedy sword-wielding class like Palidin, Hero, or Swordmaster (only in Revelations), and pass Beruka and Kanna Knight for Defensive Formation. Tanky family (+Corrin)! Edited February 14, 2016 by JothTheConqueror Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRoseBlitz Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) @JothTheConquerer That reminds me, I plan on marrying Jakob in my playthrough, so would +Str/-Mag be okay for my two sons? Edited February 14, 2016 by PunkRoseBlitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Yeah! Just make Dwyer a Paladin and Kanna a Swordmaster. Dwyer might take some time to get going with two E weapon ranks, but he'll be great if you snag him early enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRoseBlitz Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) Now I don't have to worry about having two butlers and two Hoshido Nobles. XD I plan on giving Dwyer the Hoshido skill (with Luna from Jakob) so I don't know how early it'll be. And then Kanna will get the same skills since he will not be a Hoshido Noble. Thanks again! Edited February 14, 2016 by PunkRoseBlitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Alchemist Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Of course! Do take into account with Kanna and Dwyer will have slightly lower Spd than Corrin, and won't have Yato. Shouldn't be too much of a problem, though. Also Dwyer can get Luna and Hosh by himself. Just recruit him ASAP (his chapter is stupid easy, literally all you have to do is have Kaze/Saizo/Kagero to open the door you start by and kill the boss) to get him to GK, then Hosh Noble, then Pally. Kanna can wait, though, because he already has weapon ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRoseBlitz Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) Will take note of that! I'd figure that giving Dwyer Hoshido and Luna by inheriting the skills would be faster so I could promote him into a Paladin. I'll just have to see and wait. :P Edited February 14, 2016 by PunkRoseBlitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paladin21 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 In this game, +Str or +Mag are regarded as the best assets. Honestly, I don't think that your class path is doable if you want to Reclass anyone else. I don't know exactly how many seals you get, mind, but even if you do you won't be getting very much EXP and it could be tedious to train. Really you don't need to have optimized skills, it's just overkill at that point. I'd just go Nohr Princess --> Samurai --> Swordmaster. If you really wanted to you could jump back to Hoshido Noble, but if you do wind up running +Str/-Mag, your speed won't be anything to write home about, whereas with Swordmaster you will still be able to do a ton of damage and you will never have to worry about Spd problems. However, you will mostly just be fighting slow Nohr enemies, so you should be fine.In order to get all the skills she want, she'd need three heart seals and the greatlord seal (whetever its name is). I'd do it like this:Nohr Princess (to level 10 at least)-> Samurai (with at least two level ups)-> Greatlord (instead of promoting until level 35, equivalent to 20/15)-> Swordmaster (to get the skills, lvl to 20/17)-> Hoshido Noble (Final class) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyfoster Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 @goldenlance7, it's just that a few points of Str, Mag, or Spd are worth more than a few points of Skl in the long run. Does speed work like how it did in Awakening by increasing your ability to double hit? I've read some things that say "decrease your ability to hit twice" instead of "lower your speed" which has me somewhat confused. However speed works in this game will probably affect my choice of picking it or Str/Mag. I'm assuming Luck is the best flaw to have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paladin21 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Does speed work like how it did in Awakening by increasing your ability to double hit? I've read some things that say "decrease your ability to hit twice" instead of "lower your speed" which has me somewhat confused. However speed works in this game will probably affect my choice of picking it or Str/Mag. I'm assuming Luck is the best flaw to have?Speed also increased your evasion. Assuming it does the same here, reducing your double-striking ability doesn't decrease your evasion. That's the reason why now faire skills don't affect strength or magic. In Awakening you could increase staves range and power by equipping the right weapon, in Fates it only affects the damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyfoster Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Speed also increased your evasion. Assuming it does the same here, reducing your double-striking ability doesn't decrease your evasion. That's the reason why now faire skills don't affect strength or magic. In Awakening you could increase staves range and power by equipping the right weapon, in Fates it only affects the damage. Actually didn't know about the evasion thing. That makes a lot of sense now actually, thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunkRoseBlitz Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 In order to get all the skills she want, she'd need three heart seals and the greatlord seal (whetever its name is). I'd do it like this: Nohr Princess (to level 10 at least)-> Samurai (with at least two level ups)-> Greatlord (instead of promoting until level 35, equivalent to 20/15)-> Swordmaster (to get the skills, lvl to 20/17)-> Hoshido Noble (Final class) That will be useful when I do a Hard/Classic run in a second playthrough on Birthright. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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