Pokemon Sun and Moon General Discussion: Official Site updated to include every new 'mon

[PuffPuff]

http://www.serebii.net/news/2017/11-January-2017.shtml

Patch Version 1.1 has been released.

It fixes the Z-Parting Shot and Z-Memento glitches, as well as a Rocky Helmet glitch. It also fixes a glitch where some Pokemon wouldn't learn a move when they evolved.

Please note that Z-Parting Shot and Z-Memento will not be usable in Battle Spot until Season 2 starts on January 17th.

WHEN BANK

http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-bank/

Feb 5th.

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Gen 1 Exclusive Moves Bulbasaur / Ivysaur / Venusaur

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Rage
• Reflect

Charmander / Charmeleon / Charizard

• Bide
• Leer
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down

Squirtle / Wartortle / Blastoise

• Bide
• Bubblebeam
• Fissure
• Rage
• Reflect
• Submission
• Take Down

Caterpie / Metapod / Butterfree

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Psywave
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Reflect
• Take Down
• Teleport

Weedle / Kakuna / Beedrill

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Take Down

Pidgey / Pidgeotto / Pidgeot

• Bide
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Reflect
• Sand-Attack
• Take Down

Rattata / Raticate

• Bide
• Bubblebeam
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Spearow / Fearow

• Bide
• Rage
• Take Down

Ekans / Arbok

• Bide
• Fissure
• Mega Drain
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down

Pikachu / Raichu

• Pay Day
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down

Sandshrew / Sandslash

• Bide
• Fissure
• Rage
• Sand-Attack
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down

Nidoran - F / Nidorina / Nidoqueen

• Bide
• Bubblebeam
• Fissure
• Horn Drill
• Pay Day
• Rage
• Reflect
• Submission
• Water Gun
• Tackle

Nidoran - M / Nidorino / Nidoking

• Bide
• Bubblebeam
• Fissure
• Pay Day
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Water Gun
• Tackle

Clefairy / Clefable

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Psywave
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport
• Tri Attack
• Water Gun

Vulpix / Ninetales

• Bide
• Body Slam
• Double-Edge
• Mimic
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Swift
• Tail Whip
• Take Down

Jigglypuff / Wigglytuff

• Bide
• Bubblebeam
• Psywave
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport
• Tri Attack
• Water Gun

Zubat / Golbat

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Take Down

Oddish / Gloom / Vileplume

• Bide
• Rage
• Reflect
• Sleep Powder
• Take Down

Paras / Parasect

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Take Down

Venonat / Venomoth

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Psywave
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Reflect
• Take Down
• Teleport
• Whirlwind

Diglett / Dugtrio

• Bide
• Rage
• Sand-Attack
• Take Down

Meowth / Persian

• Bide
• Bubblebeam
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Psyduck / Golduck

• Bide
• Bubblebeam
• Pay Day
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down

Mankey / Primeape

• Bide
• Pay Day
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down

Growlithe / Arcanine

• Bide
• Dragon Rage
• Leer
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Teleport

Poliwag / Poliwhirl / Poliwrath

• Bide
• Fissure
• Psywave
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Abra / Kadabra / Alakazam

• Bide
• Dig
• Psywave
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Tri Attack

Machop / Machoke / Machamp

• Bide
• Fissure
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down

Bellsprout / Weepinbell / Victreebel

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Rage
• Stun Spore
• Take Down
• Wrap

Tentacool / Tentacruel

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Geodude / Graveler / Golem

• Bide
• Fissure
• Harden
• Rage
• Submission
• Take Down

Ponyta / Rapidash

• Bide
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash

Slowpoke / Slowbro

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Fissure
• Pay Day
• Psywave
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport
• Tri Attack

Magnemite / Magneton

• Bide
• Rage
• Take Down
• Teleport

Farfetch'd

• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Sand-Attack
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Whirlwind

Doduo / Dodrio

• Bide
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Whirlwind

Seel / Dewgong

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Pay Day
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Strength
• Water Gun

Grimer / Muk

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Rage

Shellder / Cloyster

• Bide
• Clamp
• Rage
• Reflect
• Teleport
• Tri Attack
• Water Gun

Gastly / Haunter / Gengar

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down

Onix

• Bide
• Fissure
• Take Down
• Teleport

Drowzee / Hypno

• Bide
• Psywave
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport
• Tri Attack

Krabby / Kingler

• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Voltorb / Electrode

• Bide
• Reflect
• Take Down
• Teleport

Exeggcute / Exeggutor

• Bide
• Mega Drain
• Psywave
• Rage
• Take Down
• Teleport

Cubone / Marowak

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Fissure
• Submission
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Hitmonlee

• Bide
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down

Hitmonchan

• Bide
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down

Lickitung

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Fissure
• Pay Day
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Koffing / Weezing

• Bide
• Rage

Rhyhorn / Rhydon

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Fissure
• Leer
• Pay Day
• Rage
• Submission
• Teleport
• Water Gun

Chansey

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Psywave
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Teleport
• Tri Attack
• Water Gun

Tangela

• Bide
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down

Kangaskhan

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Fissure
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Horsea / Seadra

• Bide
• Horn Drill
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down

Goldeen / Seaking

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Rage
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Staryu / Starmie

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Harden
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Teleport
• Tri Attack

Mr. Mime

• Bide
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport

Scyther

• Bide
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Take Down

Jynx

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Psywave
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport
• Thrash
• Water Gun

Electabuzz

• Bide
• Metronome
• Psywave
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport

Magmar

• Bide
• Metronome
• Psywave
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport

Pinsir

• Bide
• Rage
• Slash
• Take Down

Tauros

• Bide
• Fissure
• Horn Drill
• Leer
• Skull Bash
• Stomp

Gyarados

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Tackle
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Lapras

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Dragon Rage
• Psywave
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Solar Beam
• Take Down

Eevee

• Bide
• Focus Energy (Yellow Only)
• Rage
• Reflect
• Sand-Attack
• Skull Bash

Vaporeon

• Bide
• Bite
• Body Slam
• Bubble Beam
• Double-Edge
• Mimic
• Mist
• Rage
• Reflect
• Sand-Attack
• Skull Bash

Jolteon

• Bide
• Rage
• Reflect
• Sand-Attack
• Skull Bash

Flareon

• Bide
• Leer
• Rage
• Reflect
• Sand-Attack
• Skull Bash
• Take Down

Porygon

• Bide
• Psywave
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Teleport

Omanyte / Omastar

• Horn Attack
• Horn Drill
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down

Kabuto / Kabutops

• Bide
• Hydro Pump
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Water Gun

Aerodactyl

• Bide
• Dragon Rage
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Reflect

Snorlax

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Harden
• Pay Day
• Psywave
• Rage
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Articuno

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Peck
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Take Down
• Water Gun
• Whirlwind

Zapdos:

• Bide
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Reflect
• Take Down
• Whirlwind

Moltres

• Bide
• Leer
• Peck
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Reflect
• Take Down
• Whirlwind

Dratini / Dragonair / Dragonite

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Horn Drill
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Reflect
• Skull Bash
• Take Down
• Water Gun

Mewtwo

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Psywave
• Rage
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport
• Tri Attack
• Water Gun
• Selfdestruct

Mew

• Bide
• Bubble Beam
• Dragon Rage
• Egg Bomb
• Fissure
• Horn Drill
• Mega Drain
• Pay Day
• Psywave
• Rage
• Razor Wind
• Self-Destruct
• Skull Bash
• Submission
• Take Down
• Teleport
• Tri Attack
• Water Gun
• Whirlwind

Be sure to get your Mewtwo Explosion and Snorlax Fissue before you transfer them. :D

You can take your opponents by surprise with these moves. Provided if you've glitched your Gen I games to get multiple copies of the TM's. As well as Mew.

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I just wanna transfer my Gardevoir, Jynx and Fissue+Self Destructing Snorlax already.

Edited January 13, 2017 by PuffPuff

[Emerson]

Please spoiler that. Its waaaaaay too much to scroll through.

Also, thats the launch of the original Pokebank. Not the compatability with Sun and Moon. It says February 2014, not 2017.

Edited January 11, 2017 by Emerson

[PuffPuff]

Please spoiler that. Its waaaaaay too much to scroll through.

Also, thats the launch of the original Pokebank. Not the compatability with Sun and Moon. It says February 2014, not 2017.

Oh. Sowwy. x.x

I've forgot. Serebii newsed the date awhile ago. Europe is getting it a day earlier than us.

Edited January 13, 2017 by PuffPuff

[Zanarkin]

I've forgot. Serebii newsed the date awhile ago. Europe is getting it a day earlier than us.

Those dates still have the wrong year.

Serebii still doesn't know the date, as shown by the bottom version update. It just says January 2017th...

The battle tree is so much hax past battle #20... I encountered so many teams with double team/minimize, coupled with thunder wave and confusion... Most of the time my team did nothing :/. I died to one where the damn electivre got lucky with paralyzis and severely weakened my team... enough for moxie pinsir to wipe me...

Also I think they have an easter egg to pokemon conquest. I encountered a collector named nobunaga :V and he was also the one that wiped me...

Edit: Wonder trading is fantastic... I just got a 5IV female snorunt through it! It seems like it is not mostly Abras/Cubones anymore.

Edited January 13, 2017 by SlayerX

[Subbed]

#TeamLitten #TeamMoon

I don't particularly like the other two starters, but at least one has to be good enough, I assume. Still a far-fetch from Charmander, though.

Due to my pace of progression in Fire Emblem, I might just start Pokemon Moon and finishing Fates when they come out on the 20th of May in Europe.

Well, turns out my predictions were about as wrong as they could be.

Gone with Pokemon Sun due to Vulpix exclusive. Chose Rowlet as the starter because final evolutions are the way they are. Finished Fates way before actually getting into Sun.

[Zanarkin]

In my attempts at getting a rough skin Gabite, i ended up dgetting a shiny Castform...

It is hasty, and decent Sp. Def, with Very Good (~28) Spe IV and the rest are Best... Might do something with it, but then again... nah.

[PuffPuff]

In my attempts at getting a rough skin Gabite, i ended up dgetting a shiny Castform...

It is hasty, and decent Sp. Def, with Very Good (~28) Spe IV and the rest are Best... Might do something with it, but then again... nah.

I've found a Shiny Golbat at full odds the other day at the Snowy Alps. =P

Yay! A Pink Crobat. ^^

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@Subpyro

Pokemon Sun in general has the better exclusives and UB's. But...Pokemon Moon has more adorable Pokemon.

Edited January 15, 2017 by PuffPuff

[Zanarkin]

I've found a Shiny Golbat at full odds the other day at the Snowy Alps. =P

Yay! A Pink Crobat. ^^

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@Subpyro

Pokemon Sun in general has the better exclusives and UB's. But...Pokemon Moon has more adorable Pokemon.

Actually I think Pokemon moon has the better competitive line up with Celesteela, Pheromosa, and Oranguru (doubles).

Lol it just happened again... I got a shiny Trapinch instead of a rough skin gabite... they are rarer than shineys lol. I know that isn't true. shame its a naive natured one... I really like Flygon's shiny

Soooo I broke the third chain of trapinch i had going. I went to wonder trade and just got a shiny popolio with 6IV's and a modest nature :o... Probably hacked, but it has no egg moves or anything.

Fuck it got my rough Skin Gible through wonder trade

Edited January 15, 2017 by SlayerX

[Punished Dayni]

Spoiler

So, I finally got Moon last week, been playing pretty slowly and raising a lot for the sake of it.

Just trounced Hau with a freshly caught Mudbray. Sure, he had Torracat as a starter, but it's hilarious that it could be that easy. And so, should I know if anything on the second island is particularly troubling?

 

[Konnor97]

4 minutes ago, Dayni said:

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So, I finally got Moon last week, been playing pretty slowly and raising a lot for the sake of it.

Just trounced Hau with a freshly caught Mudbray. Sure, he had Torracat as a starter, but it's hilarious that it could be that easy. And so, should I know if anything on the second island is particularly troubling?

 

The first and third totems fights tend to give people trouble.

[Emerson]

7 minutes ago, Konnor97 said:

The first and third totems fights tend to give people trouble.

Spoiler

Not with a Mudbray. Third literally goes down turn 1.

Don't forget the fourth.

 

Never forget the fourth.

[Konnor97]

Just now, Emerson said:

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Not with a Mudbray. Third literally goes down turn 1.

Don't forget the fourth.

 

Never forget the fourth.

I meant the first and third of Akala island.

[Emerson]

Ah, that makes more sense.

 

On a separate note, I'm shocked we still have 0 word of Bank.

[Magical Glace]

I forsee the memes from when XY were new resurging if we continue to not get word on that.

You'd think they would have a handle on this, after what happened last time

[Emerson]

I don't even mind getting it on the 31st or something. I just want a gosh darn release date or something.

Although if we can't transfer our BP earned in Gen 6's Bank to Gen 7's, I might be a little angry.

Edited January 17, 2017 by Emerson

[Nym]

8 minutes ago, Emerson said:

I don't even mind getting it on the 31st or something. I just want a gosh darn release date or something.

Although if we can't transfer our BP earned in Gen 6's Bank to Gen 7's, I might be a little angry.

Nice

[Zanarkin]

Oooooh Have you guys tried the shiny breeding method found in Sun and Moon?

This explains it really well. 

It works really well. I tried it to get a shiny Dewpider and I managed one with all the traits i wanted :D. I know some of you are avid shiny hunters, this will significantly reduce the time you need.

Edited January 17, 2017 by SlayerX

[Emerson]

I've heard about it before, but I'd rather just stick to Masuda Method. It looks really complex and easy to mess up.

[Zanarkin]

3 hours ago, Emerson said:

I've heard about it before, but I'd rather just stick to Masuda Method. It looks really complex and easy to mess up.

It looks a lot more complicated in writing, but if you just follow the steps, getting a shiny pokemon of your choice is really easy. 

Learning this is really useful too, because it turns out that the IV's the pokemon inherits are set too, as well as abilities and gender

[Emerson]

26 minutes ago, SlayerX said:

It looks a lot more complicated in writing, but if you just follow the steps, getting a shiny pokemon of your choice is really easy. 

Learning this is really useful too, because it turns out that the IV's the pokemon inherits are set too, as well as abilities and gender

Eh, maybe once I start activly shiny hunting, but for now I just want to get ready for VGC and generally doing competitive.

 

Speaking of which, the Destiny Knot search has turned out fruitless. TENS OF HOURS have been spent searching for one. I'll put a few more weeks into it, but hopefully Bank will negate the need to do so.

Edited January 17, 2017 by Emerson

[Zanarkin]

40 minutes ago, Emerson said:

Speaking of which, the Destiny Knot search has turned out fruitless. TENS OF HOURS have been spent searching for one. I'll put a few more weeks into it, but hopefully Bank will negate the need to do so.

 

What do you mean? You can buy one in the Battle Royal shop for 48 BP... Alternatively i can give you one, for any pokemon with a HA (like a toxapex or Manemite or something neat-o)

[Emerson]

2 hours ago, SlayerX said:

 

What do you mean? You can buy one in the Battle Royal shop for 48 BP... Alternatively i can give you one, for any pokemon with a HA (like a toxapex or Manemite or something neat-o)

Grinding for BP without competitive Mons is VERY tough. Not to mention I need 2 of them, possibly 4 since my friend needs them too.

I have some HA stuff, like Vulpix and Gible. Give me time and I could get you a list.

[Konnor97]

31 minutes ago, Emerson said:

Grinding for BP without competitive Mons is VERY tough. Not to mention I need 2 of them, possibly 4 since my friend needs them too.

I have some HA stuff, like Vulpix and Gible. Give me time and I could get you a list.

Why would you need two?

[Emerson]

Breed 4iv -> Thing

Breed another 4iv with the other 4iv where as the child can have perfect 6ivs if I'm lucky.

 

6iv Dittos aren't easily availible, so this is the best I can do.

[Zanarkin]

 

1 minute ago, Emerson said:

Breed 4iv -> Thing

Breed another 4iv with the other 4iv where as the child can have perfect 6ivs if I'm lucky.

 

6iv Dittos aren't easily availible, so this is the best I can do.

You only need one. 1 Destiny Knot guarantees 5 IVs are passed down from the parent. The second Destiny knot does nothing. You are better off having the second parent hold an everstone to pass down natures, or a power item to guarantee a specific IV gets passed down (useful when building pokemon from things that only have 1 or 2 IVs perfect)

 

Edit: Also if you are fine scowering the net for pokemon, 6IV dittos are sometimes given away by gamefaqs people, or reddit users, and other pokemon websites.

Edited January 18, 2017 by SlayerX