Fruity Insanity Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Was wondering if anyone knew how this tome works. I get that you have -5 DEF and RES, but what I don't get is the +5 to follow up attack speed. If you get +5, but the enemy also gets +5, what's the point? Don't they just cancel out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 No, the + 5 spd is calculated against your opponents unaltered speed stat, and vice versa. This makes it legitimately possible for both attacker and defender to double in the same round of combat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 No, the + 5 spd is calculated against your opponents unaltered speed stat, and vice versa. This makes it legitimately possible for both attacker and defender to double in the same round of combat So I get +5 SPD when attacking, but effectively -5 SPD when defending? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCProductions Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 So I get +5 SPD when attacking, but effectively -5 SPD when defending? Pretty much, yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Pretty much, yeah That makes more sense. Thanks. I guess forged Mjolnir is better, then. Or just a really, really fast tome-user... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karis Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Excalibur is best for Ophelia with Vantage active since Excalibur has a super high crit rate with her, higher than Mjolnir even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruity Insanity Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 (edited) Excalibur is best for Ophelia with Vantage active since Excalibur has a super high crit rate with her, higher than Mjolnir even. That's who I'm using it on, since Awakening + Vantage + Witch Class bonus + Excalibur/Mjolnir + Skill stat gives me between 75 and 95 crit. 100+ crit when initiating, though, because Death Blow. Still looking for Gamble on her, though. And don't Mjolnir and Excalibur have the same crit chance? Forged Mjolnir seems better, tho, since 4x crits make up for it. Edited March 17, 2016 by Fruity Insanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karis Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 That's who I'm using it on, since Awakening + Vantage + Witch Class bonus + Excalibur/Mjolnir + Skill stat gives me between 75 and 95 crit. 100+ crit when initiating, though, because Death Blow. Still looking for Gamble on her, though. And don't Mjolnir and Excalibur have the same crit chance? Forged Mjolnir seems better, tho, since 4x crits make up for it. Just checked and yes they do, which is really weird because my crit percent is always higher with Excalibur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Holy Elf Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 No, the + 5 spd is calculated against your opponents unaltered speed stat, and vice versa. This makes it legitimately possible for both attacker and defender to double in the same round of combat Has anyone actually seen this happen? If so, what's the order of attacks? Attacker, defender, attacker, defender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayGaiden.EXE Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Has anyone actually seen this happen? If so, what's the order of attacks? Attacker, defender, attacker, defender? I've actually made it happen, and showcased it on my channel some time ago. The order goes as you said, and vice versa on enemy phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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