Kaze-Kaze Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I'm looking for the best pairings for birthright so I need your help! What's the best bane and boon for marrying Scarlet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvee94 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Here's the Birthright list, this is based on most similar growth rates so mods are ignored. Oboro!Shiro - Jack of All Stats (except magic) Sakura!Asugi - Magic Glass Cannon Knight Setsuna!Selkie - Mage Killing Fragile Speedster Kagero!Dwyre - Stormtrooper Mozu!Midori - Fragile Speedster Rinkah!Kiragi - Speedy Tank Hinoka!Caeldori - Jack of All Stats (except magic) Hana!Hisame - Glass Cannon Azura!Sophie - Glass Cannon Felicia!Mitama - Fragile Speedster Combat Medic Orochi!Rhajat - Squishy Glass Cannon Wizard If there are pairings you would rather have, I would gladly reoptimize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaze-Kaze Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 These seem legit. Could you give me any help with Scarlet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeViggy Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Scarlet can only support with Corrin, so she has no options when it comes to pairings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaze-Kaze Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Scarlet can only support with Corrin, so she has no options when it comes to pairings Yeah I want all of the kids so my Corrin will marry her I'm just looking for a good boon and bane to compliment her stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty_Handsome Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Mods are what matters and a lesser degree skills if you don't want to bother looking too hard in MyCastle or have no access to it. Ignore Growth rates outside Conquest as you can grind in Birthright and Revelation to fix them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaze-Kaze Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Mods are what matters and a lesser degree skills if you don't want to bother looking too hard in MyCastle or have no access to it. Ignore Growth rates outside Conquest as you can grind in Birthright and Revelation to fix them. Thanks for the tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Scarlet has some pretty good mods (+2 Str, +1 Spd, -1 Lck, -2 Res). She's built to be a physical attacker, so as long as you don't do something weird like +Mag or +Lck, you should be fine. My current Birthright file has +Spd/-Res, but stuff like +Str/-Def works too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaze-Kaze Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Scarlet has some pretty good mods (+2 Str, +1 Spd, -1 Lck, -2 Res). She's built to be a physical attacker, so as long as you don't do something weird like +Mag or +Lck, you should be fine. My current Birthright file has +Spd/-Res, but stuff like +Str/-Def works too. Yes I decided plus strength would be the right way to go so that I have an amazingly good physical attacking Kanna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty_Handsome Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Yeah I want all of the kids so my Corrin will marry her I'm just looking for a good boon and bane to compliment her stats. Scarlet gives these mods based off SF's list. http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-fates/hoshidan-characters/maximum-stats/ +2 Str +1 Spd -1 Luck -2 Res Based off that the best Boon/Bane for pairing Corrin with her would be +Str/-Def or +Spd/-Lck +Str/-Def +4 Str +2 Skill -1 Lck -1 Def -1 Res Add both mods together... +6 Str +2 Skill +1 Spd -2 Lck -1 Def -3 Res Since Scarlet is a First Gen it means that Kana gets +1 to her Modifiers based off that same SF list. [Children The modifiers for children characters are equal to (their father’s modifiers + their mother’s modifiers +1). If your Avatar pairs with a children character, Kana does not receive the +1 to his/her modifiers.] Thus... +7 Str +3 Skill +2 Spd -1 Lck -2 Res Now, let's look at +Speed/-Luck for the Avatar. -1 Str -1 Mag +2 Skl +4 Spd -1 Lck Added together with Scarlet... +1 Str -1 Mag +2 Skl +5 Spd -2 Lck -2 Res And with the First Gen bonus... +2 Str +3 Skl +6 Spd -1 Lck -1 Res Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaze-Kaze Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Plus strength minus luck is what I'm going for would that alter the defense stat by a lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) +Str/-Lck gives the following mods to Corrin: +3 Str -1 Mag +2 Skl -3 Lck +2 Def (source: the top of my head, go look this up) Since -Lck cuts into Str without giving a positive modifier to Spd, it's not really worth having IMO. EDIT: The magical page we get our numbers from. Edited March 24, 2016 by eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty_Handsome Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Plus strength minus luck is what I'm going for would that alter the defense stat by a lot? If you want Str then -Def is somehow a really good choice for it. Pretty surprising how the mods turn out. -Def without +Str hurts too much, that's a big Def drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaze-Kaze Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 If you want Str then -Def is somehow a really good choice for it. Pretty surprising how the mods turn out. -Def without +Str hurts too much, that's a big Def drop. Wow I was just worried Corrin and Kanna will have horrible defense. But if they work well together I'll go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty_Handsome Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Okay, I messed around with this. https://inheritance-planner.herokuapp.com/ +Spd/-Lck Avatar Avatar x Scarlet ~ Kana +2 Str ~ +0 Mag ~ +3 Skill ~ +6 Spd ~ -1 Lck ~ +1 Def ~ -1 Res Azura x Takumi ~ Shigure +2 Str ~ +1 Mag ~ +5 Skill ~ +2 Spd ~ +2 Lck ~ -2 Def ~ -1 Res Jakob x Oboro ~ Dwyer +4 Str ~ -2 Mag ~ +4 Skill ~ +2 Spd ~ -1 Lck ~ +2 Def ~ -1 Res Silas x Rinkah ~ Sophie +1 Str ~ +1 Mag ~ +1 Skill ~ +2 Spd ~ +0 Lck ~ +3 Def ~ +0 Res Kaze x Sakura ~ Midori -1 Str ~ +3 Mag ~ +2 Skill ~ +6 Spd ~ -2 Lck ~ -3 Def ~ +0 Res Ryoma x Kagero ~ Shiro +5 Str ~ +1 Mag ~ +2 Skill ~ +1 Spd ~ +2 Lck ~ -2 Def ~ +0 Res Azura x Takumi ~ Kiragi +2 Str ~ +1 Mag ~ +5 Skill ~ +2 Spd ~ +2 Lck ~ -2 Def ~ -1 Res Saizo x Mozu ~ Asugi +2 Str ~ +1 Mag ~ +5 Skill ~ +0 Spd ~ +2 Lck ~ +2 Def ~ -3 Res Kaden x Setsuna ~ Selkie +2 Str ~ +1 Mag ~ -1 Skill ~ +6 Spd ~ +1 Lck ~ -2 Def ~ +2 Res Hinata x Hana ~ Hisame +3 Str ~ +1 Mag ~ +1 Skill ~ +1 Spd ~ +0 Lck ~ +0 Def ~ +2 Res Azama x Felcia ~ Mitama +1 Str ~ +0 Mag ~ +1 Skill ~ +3 Spd ~ +1 Lck ~ +1 Def ~ +2 Res Subaki x Hinoka ~ Caeldori +1 Str ~ +0 Mag ~ +2 Skill ~ +0 Spd ~ +0 Lck ~ +3 Def ~ +2 Res Hayato x Orochi ~ Rhajat +1 Str ~ +5 Mag ~ +2 Skill ~ +1 Spd ~ +1 Lck ~ -2 Def ~ +1 Res Note - Couldn't really place Rinkah anywhere so Silas got lucky and gets to marry the Flame Tribe Princess. Wanted Ryoma x Rinkah but Kagero gives crazy good mods for Shiro. Only Scarlet or Corrin would be better as a waifu for Ryoma in Birthright. Too bad Ryoma cannot support Scarlet. Sakura was a hard fit as Orochi and Felcia seem to be better magical parents. So I placed her with Kaze as her mods are okay, other than -2 Lck, and she gives Miracle. +6 Spd is nice too. Really wanted Kaden x Azura based off their cute supports but Setsuna is the superior mother between Setsuna and Azura for Selkie. Azura is also a great mother for Kiragi. I blame Takumi. Asugi has a ton of mothers that gives -Spd... He's a Ninja, stop it! I blame Saizo. Don't really like Hisame so his stats are average. At the very least Hinata and Hana have great skills to pass to him thanks to MyCastle hunting. So he'll still turn out better than the 1st gen other than Corrin and the Royals for me anyway. Not a lot of magic children on just Birthright so Orochi is stuck with Hayato for magical Rhajat. Edited March 24, 2016 by Pretty_Handsome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 . . .but Azama is physical? Here's what I did, for the "magical" kids: - Hayato x Felicia: Rhajat gets Tomefaire on her own, so all she needs IMO is someone with good magical mods. Like our favorite clumsy maid. - Saizou x Sakura: Believe it or not, Asugi's a decent mage. He can be used as a magical chipper, utilizing Poison Strike for guaranteed damage. - Kaze x Orochi: Kaze starts with -2 STR, so I figured a nice magical mom who likes the extra Speed works. And it does, if you don't mind being silly with the build. Azama likes any physical mom, and Mitama can reclass accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty_Handsome Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Felicia doesn't hurt Mitama that much and Mitama isn't as offensive as the other physical kids demanding the physical mothers. So she didn't get priority and Felicia is better for Mitama than Orochi. Mitama also has a personal skill better suited for supporting than offensiveness. However, Rinkah would be a great choice here if you want a physical Mitama but than another kid is stuck with Felicia. Sakura gives easy access to Miracle so less of a headache for me. I'm iffy on Magical Asugi as Magical Shurikens have stiff penalties. No Crits and Special Skills... Ouchies. I also hate that -3 Spd. You do have valid points though. If I moved Felicia though... How about... Silas x Mozu ~ Sophie +2 Str ~ +1 Mag ~ +4 Skl ~ +2 Spd ~ +1 Lck ~ +1 Def ~ -2 Res Felicia x Saizo ~ Asugi +0 Str ~ +3 Mag ~ +4 Skl ~ +0 Spd ~ +1 Lck ~ +1 Def ~ +0 Res Azama x Rinkah ~ Mitama +2 Str ~ -2 Mag ~ -1 Skl ~ +3 Spd ~ +1 Lck ~ +4 Def ~ +1 Res Edited March 24, 2016 by Pretty_Handsome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) I think you missed my point. . . Why not make Mitama purely physical? In my current file, Kagero's her mom, and it's amazing. EDIT: "But that makes no sense". Blame Azama's +2 Str and -3 Mag mods. Saizo, on the other hand, has +1 Str, no magic, and an innate 45% magic growth. Hence why I'd make Mitama physical and Asugi magical/mixed. Edited March 24, 2016 by eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Also fwiw, Kagero!Shiro's mods are pretty much identical to Ryoma's since he has a free+4 from Raijinto. Rinkah gives Shiro more speed, gives Ryoma some skills he wants, and frees up Kagero for more needy children than Shiro's "I have everything I ever want just by being born, just give me speed", anyway. Shiro's kit is incredible--he has so many damage boosting options under his belt, he doesn't really need to take a high-demand mother like Kagero. Edited March 24, 2016 by Thor Odinson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty_Handsome Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) I think you missed my point. . . Why not make Mitama purely physical? In my current file, Kagero's her mom, and it's amazing. EDIT: "But that makes no sense". Blame Azama's +2 Str and -3 Mag mods. Saizo, on the other hand, has +1 Str, no magic, and an innate 45% magic growth. Hence why I'd make Mitama physical and Asugi magical/mixed. It's because I see Kagero extremely good for being Shiro's mother and Shiro has the far superior Personal Skill for being a lead unit. - Hmm... I cannot see myself taking Raijinto away from Ryoma but if I did than you have a great point there. Shiro is pretty much the best Birthright kid by far. Edit - Hmmm... Alright, stand corrected. Even without Raijinto, Rinkah is still a great mother for Shiro and Kagero is much better for Mitama than Rinkah is. Interesting. Edited March 24, 2016 by Pretty_Handsome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roflolxp54 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 If you want Str then -Def is somehow a really good choice for it. Pretty surprising how the mods turn out. -Def without +Str hurts too much, that's a big Def drop. Defense is always the best bane if you're looking for as much offense as possible (no drop on Strength, Magic, Skill, and Speed); it's a very common flaw picked for certain Apotheosis builds in Awakening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaze-Kaze Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Defense is always the best bane if you're looking for as much offense as possible (no drop on Strength, Magic, Skill, and Speed); it's a very common flaw picked for certain Apotheosis builds in Awakening. Thanks for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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