What do you think the ages of the characters are?

[gnubz]

Specifically the royals. I would say:

• Xander/Ryoma - Mid (possibly late) 20's
• Camilla/Hinoka - Early 20's
• Kamui/Corrin - Late teens (nearing 20)
• Leo/Takumi - 16-17
• Elise/Sakura - 14-15

I'm guesstimating from the ages of Awakening since the artist is the same. So then I would put the majority of the cast's age between 17-22, which makes me feel relieved. Having too many child soldiers squicks me out.

[saisymbolic]

Specifically the royals. I would say:

• Xander/Ryoma - Mid (possibly late) 20's
• Camilla/Hinoka - Early 20's
• Kamui/Corrin - Late teens (nearing 20)
• Leo/Takumi - 16-17
• Elise/Sakura - 14-15

I'm guesstimating from the ages of Awakening since the artist is the same. So then I would put the majority of the cast's age between 17-22, which makes me feel relieved. Having too many child soldiers squicks me out.

Yeah, those are my guesstimates as well. I also put Jacob at around 24, Felicia and Flora at 19-20 and Scarlet about 23. Reina at about mid-late 30's and Shura early-mid 30's.

[gnubz]

Yeah, those are my guesstimates as well. I also put Jacob at around 24, Felicia and Flora at 19-20 and Scarlet about 23. Reina at about mid-late 30's and Shura early-mid 30's.

Yeah, I agree with these-- especially Reina. And I would put Gunter in his late 40's. (Hell, he always talks about how old he is. I wouldn't argue him being in his 50's.)

[Gaheris Black]

Well, Leo clearly states that Elise is an adult, which is kind of a relief, but a bit disturbing as well...

So, assuming Elise is 18, Leo should be around 20, Kamui/Corrin in the early 20's, Camilla in the mid 20's, and Xander in the late 20's. It should be the same for the Hoshidan Royals. Just my guess though...

Silas should be 20/21.

Benny should be 27/28.

I like to think that

the Awakening trio has grown since the FE13 events, so that should make them around 20 years old...

Gunter should be in his 50's, and I like the idea of him and Reina being old rival (Gunter was the one who caused Reina's scars and vice versa -the idea isn't mine, but I can't find the post of the guy who wrote it in the first place...), so Reina should also be in her late 40's/early 50's.

Edited April 28, 2016 by Gaheris Black

[gnubz]

Well, Leo clearly states that Elise is an adult, which is kind of a relief, but a bit disturbing as well...

So, assuming Elise is 18, Leo should be around 20, Kamui/Corrin in the early 20's, Camilla in the mid 20's, and Xander in the late 20's. It should be the same for the Hoshidan Royals. Just my guess though...

Silas should be 20/21.

Benny should be 27/28.

I like to think that

the Awakening trio has grown since the FE13 events, so that should make them around 20 years old...

I absolutely understand where you're coming from...but I can't help but think that's reading too much into one line. How many times have your parents or older siblings scolded you to behave more like an adult at 15? People aren't raising kids; they're raising adults. I think Leo's mature enough to realize that.

Edited April 28, 2016 by gnubz

[Thane]

I have no doubt Sakura and Elise are, at least in the Japanese version, supposed to be younger than teenagers. I mean, I've got no proof, but their supports have got more than a few comments about dolls, playing and growing up, and they're small in the cutscenes. I especially don't buy Elise being 14.

[saisymbolic]

It depends on what age they recognize as an adult. They were intentionally vague about it. I still put Elise at around 14-15 despite the "having children" controversy; it honestly doesn't disturb me. If both individuals are comfortable, consenting and aware of the consequences, I have no place to judge. I can't tell you how often it is where I am that a 15 year old has had a baby; one of my cousins was 15 when she had her kid. My grandfather was born when his mother was 14 and my great aunt married at 14 with permission from her mother, giving a bit of insight on the culture back then. And that is in America. Just imagine would it would be in medieval (albeit fantasy) EuroGermanSwitzRussWhatever country.

There are various elements to take into account.

Edited April 28, 2016 by SaiSymbolic

[Res]

I like to believe that Elise is at least 16, if only because then she's at least half my age

'Technically are' implies legal age to me, too; I'm not telling my kids to behave like the adults they technically are until they're, well, technically adults. The only question is what Nohrian legal adult age is.

I can easily accept Sakura being older than Elise.

Whatever Corrin's age is, I think Takumi and Sakura have to be not far behind. Spoilering this to be on the safe side:

Mikoto came to Hoshido with Corrin as a baby and it's implied that she's been the only mother Takumi and Sakura have really known. Additionally I have the impression (I can't recall if this is backed up by known facts or not) that Sakura was at least born before Corrin was kidnapped, and Corrin was kidnapped before the age of 5 - so Sakura can't be more than ~4 years younger than Corrin.

So, closer gap between Takumi + Sakura. Probably a bigger gap between Leo and Elise, since Leo remembers/possibly participated in the sibling wars, and Elise doesn't have a clue about them.

[Lady Sansa]

Elise is no older than 10 lol

[47948201]

(just popping in to say what we have as the legal age for being an adult isn't necessarily what they have in Nohr--heck, we in different countries have different ages at which we define that. But especially for something in a more medieval-fantasy setting, roughly based on a time when it wasn't uncommon for girls to get married before they hit double-digit age...yeah.)

[Gaheris Black]

I also think that Elise being 18 isn't very likely to be true, given her physical apperarence (~10 YO) and her overall behavior (although we can suppose that she intendedly acts like a child, as it is implied by Leo, which seems plausable given Birthright's final events...); as Res said, we don't know for sure the Nohrian legal adult age. While I think that Elise may really be a child/teen in the Japanese version, I think she's at least 16 in the localisation. Her physical apparence (and her voice) doesn't help though... Regardless, Sakura is definetly older than Elise.

[Djing]

The Royals

Ryoma - 26. He has a paternal aura in him which tells me he's the oldest of the royal 8.

Xander - 25-Younger than Ryoma. Xander's attachment issues with his father tells me that he's not as emotionally mature as Ryoma.

Hinoka - 21. Past her teens but still young enough to be inexperienced with interpersonal relationships.

Camilla - 24. If I wasn't told she was younger than Xander, I'd expected the two to be the same age. Seems to be sexually unfulfilled, based on how she acts.

Takumi - 16. Takumi has to be young enough for Hinoka to have childhood memories of Corrin. The ideal "angsting" age.

Leo - 18. Maturing young adult. Tries very hard to be noble and serious. In a couple of years this will come naturally for him.

Sakura - 15.

Elise - 15. Both of them could be the same age. They get along very well. Most young children and teenagers in my experience have an easier time interacting with people of the same age.

Other people

Kaze/Saizo - 25. Hard to determine a right age. I would like to say they are near Ryoma's age due to events in Kaze's past regarding Corrin.

Kagero/Orochi - 26. Older than Saizo, due to Orochi's backstory with him. Kaze seems to look up to Kagero and treat her as if she's older. They're the same age due to being childhood friends. Children tend to gravitate towards people their age.
Hayato - 14-15. Fuga seems to be sending him off as a coming of age ritual. That's the vibe I'm getting.

Effie - 17. She clearly seems to be older than Elise, but it's hard to tell due to the armor.

Arthur - 25. His support with Elise has him being compared to Xander in many ways. It would be nice if they were the same age.

Niles - Late Twenties. He seems like he's seen some shit. Very sexually open and experienced.

[Nanima]

From her behaviour in the japanese version, Elise always came across as 12 at most. While being slightly more mature in the English version, I'd still never put her above 18.

Sakura seems a little older and more mature, but not a day over 15.

Leon and Takumi both seem like they are either 18 or just about to reach it. It'd fit with their personalities too.

The Corrins are 19 to me. I ignore the short female build so..

Hinoka is likely early twenties. 20-21 I'd say. Camilla is older than that, around 23.

With Xander and Ryouma I'd put them in their mid-to late-twenties. Because dammit we finally get more Lords who aren't teenagers! (also it's easier to think of them as older brother figures when they are older than me)

The rest I haven't really thought about. Except that I headcanon Orochi as 27, because she mentioned changing Takumi's diapers, so she couldn't have been that young a child at that point.

[Captain Karnage]

I think they really needed to give us some of these character ages

I find it kind of hard to believe that Felicia and Flora have been working for Corrin since he got there, Felica and Flora I guess would have been maids since they were 5 (who would have a 5year old running around as a maid)

how old was Corrin when he was kidnapped

Corrin obviously looks older than Sakura

SPOILERS

that also brings up the question if Corrin has any memories of living in Vallah judging by some of the characters ages based on how much older he is than Sakura

and well, since the setting is midevil and most people would be considered lucky if they lived to be 20, I guess the old saying

if it bleeds, it breeds

I'm an awaful person for saying that

applies

[Vere]

Well, Leo clearly states that Elise is an adult, which is kind of a relief, but a bit disturbing as well...

So, assuming Elise is 18, Leo should be around 20, Kamui/Corrin in the early 20's, Camilla in the mid 20's, and Xander in the late 20's. It should be the same for the Hoshidan Royals. Just my guess though...

Silas should be 20/21.

Benny should be 27/28.

I like to think that

the Awakening trio has grown since the FE13 events, so that should make them around 20 years old...

Gunter should be in his 50's, and I like the idea of him and Reina being old rival (Gunter was the one who caused Reina's scars and vice versa -the idea isn't mine, but I can't find the post of the guy who wrote it in the first place...), so Reina should also be in her late 40's/early 50's.

Damn, it always felt like Leo was taller than tall-Corrin to me. And that he wasn't a head taller than Elise.

[Nanima]

that also brings up the question if Corrin has any memories of living in Vallah judging by some of the characters ages based on how much older he is than Sakura

and well, since the setting is midevil and most people would be considered lucky if they lived to be 20, I guess the old saying

if it bleeds, it breeds

I'm an awaful person for saying that

applies

To the first Spoiler:

The game specifically states that Corrin was an infant when they came to Hoshido. I imagine Sumeragi just took Mikoto as his second wife, which isn't unusual for the japanese culutre of the time.

Kinda off-topic, but most people in the middle ages had the average life expectancy of around 50 years. The reason it is often said to be lower, is that when you go for the average you also count in all the infant mortalities, which were exceedingly high. If you reached your tenth birthday, you had a decent chance of living into "old age" (60s). In medieval Europe, the peasantry usually married around 18-20. It was the nobility that married their kids off at age 11-13.

Since Elise is royalty, this could go for her. (could, this game isn't exactly consistent with its historical realism)

Edited April 28, 2016 by Nanima²

[Res]

To the first Spoiler:

The game specifically states that Corrin was an infant when they came to Hoshido. I imagine Sumeragi just took Mikoto as his second wife, which isn't unusual for the japanese culutre of the time.

Kinda off-topic, but most people in the middle ages had the average life expectancy of around 50 years. The reason it is much lower, is that when you go for the average you also count in all the infant mortalities, which were exceedingly high. If you reached your tenth birthday, you had a decent chance of living into at least your 50s. In medieval Europe, the peasantry usually married around 18-20. It was the nobility that married their kids off at age 11-13.

Since Elise is royalty, this could go for her. (could, this game isn't exactly consistent with its historical realism)

I was just posting to say this when your comment popped up! In some towns, it wasn't unusual for the median age of a woman marrying for the first time to be well into the 20s.

[Luankachu]

I remember a thread like this existed some time ago and I made a really long post about my headcanons for the ages with several of my reasons taken from the supports, most of which I can't even remember. If I can find it again, I'll copy and paste it here.

If I'm remembering my post correctly, I placed the royals at:

Xander - 27

Ryoma and Camilla- 24 or 25

Hinoka - 22

Azura - 21

BigMaleBuild!Corrin - 20

SmallMaleBuild!Corrin and BigFemaleBuild!Corrin - 19

SmallFemaleBuild!Corrin and Leo - 18

Takumi - 16 or 17

Sakura - 15

Elise - 13

For other characters, I'd put them at:

Mozu, Effie, Hayato, Hana, Beruka - Around Sakura's age (15).

Felicia/Flora, Jakob, Silas - Around Default!Corrin's age (19)

Saizo/Kaze, Kagero, Azama, Tsubaki, Scarlet, Selena, Charlotte, Niles, Orochi - Around Ryoma's age (24/25)

Hinata, Oboro, Rinka, Laslow, Odin, Niles, Arthur. Layla - Around Hinoka's age (22) or Azura's (21)

Kaden, Keaton - Unknown. I don't think it was ever stated that Shapeshifters age at around the same rate as humans do.

Nyx (Body) - Cursed at around Elise's age (13)

Nyx (Mind), Fuuga, Sumeragi, Kilma, Arete - Old.

Mikoto, Izana, Omozu, Kotaro, Hans, Iago - Younger than Sumeragi

Yukimura, Zola - Younger than Mikoto

Reina, Gunter, Garon - Older than Sumeragi.

Peri, Setsuna - Around Leo's age (18).

Benny - Around Xander's age (27).

Anna, Anankos, Rainbow Sage - Ageless/Immortal.

[spoiler=Child Units]

Kana - 9 or 10

Percy, Midori, Kiragi, Selkie - 11 or 12

Shiro and Siegbert - 18

Shigure - 17

Soleil, Ignatius, Nina, Hisame, Asugi, Rhajat, Dwyer - 16

Mitama, Ophelia, Velouria, Sophie - 15

Forrest - 13 or 14

[saisymbolic]

To the first Spoiler:

The game specifically states that Corrin was an infant when they came to Hoshido. I imagine Sumeragi just took Mikoto as his second wife, which isn't unusual for the japanese culutre of the time.

Kinda off-topic, but most people in the middle ages had the average life expectancy of around 50 years. The reason it is often said to be lower, is that when you go for the average you also count in all the infant mortalities, which were exceedingly high. If you reached your tenth birthday, you had a decent chance of living into "old age" (60s). In medieval Europe, the peasantry usually married around 18-20. It was the nobility that married their kids off at age 11-13.

Since Elise is royalty, this could go for her. (could, this game isn't exactly consistent with its historical realism)

Yeah, I was studying up on aristocratic life and apparently the wealthy and noble married off extremely young as a means to secure their lineage. Having an arranged marriage for Elise by the time she was 12-13 would have been common if it were real life.

[Captain Karnage]

To the first Spoiler:

The game specifically states that Corrin was an infant when they came to Hoshido. I imagine Sumeragi just took Mikoto as his second wife, which isn't unusual for the japanese culutre of the time.

Kinda off-topic, but most people in the middle ages had the average life expectancy of around 50 years. The reason it is often said to be lower, is that when you go for the average you also count in all the infant mortalities, which were exceedingly high. If you reached your tenth birthday, you had a decent chance of living into "old age" (60s). In medieval Europe, the peasantry usually married around 18-20. It was the nobility that married their kids off at age 11-13.

Since Elise is royalty, this could go for her. (could, this game isn't exactly consistent with its historical realism)

But there is an obvious age difference between Corrin and Sakura

Sakura would have had to been born long after Corrin was

IDK maybe Mikoto was Sumeragi's side chick for a while

I heard Dragon's Blood was a huge Viagra to poeple who could only have 1 support partner

I'll just take a page out of Thane's book and blame it on the bad storytelling

[gnubz]

I remember a thread like this existed some time ago and I made a really long post about my headcanons for the ages with several of my reasons taken from the supports, most of which I can't even remember. If I can find it again, I'll copy and paste it here.

If I'm remembering my post correctly, I placed the royals at:

Xander - 27

Ryoma and Camilla- 24 or 25

Hinoka - 22

Azura - 21

BigMaleBuild!Corrin - 20

SmallMaleBuild!Corrin and BigFemaleBuild!Corrin - 19

SmallFemaleBuild!Corrin and Leo - 18

Takumi - 16 or 17

Sakura - 15

Elise - 13

For other characters, I'd put them at:

Mozu, Effie, Hayato, Hana, Beruka - Around Sakura's age (15).

Felicia/Flora, Jakob, Silas - Around Default!Corrin's age (19)

Saizo/Kaze, Kagero, Azama, Tsubaki, Scarlet, Selena, Charlotte, Niles, Orochi - Around Ryoma's age (24/25)

Hinata, Oboro, Rinka, Laslow, Odin, Niles, Arthur. Layla - Around Hinoka's age (22) or Azura's (21)

Kaden, Keaton - Unknown. I don't think it was ever stated that Shapeshifters age at around the same rate as humans do.

Nyx (Body) - Cursed at around Elise's age (13)

Nyx (Mind), Fuuga, Sumeragi, Kilma, Arete - Old.

Mikoto, Izana, Omozu, Kotaro, Hans, Iago - Younger than Sumeragi

Yukimura, Zola - Younger than Mikoto

Reina, Gunter, Garon - Older than Sumeragi.

Peri, Setsuna - Around Leo's age (18).

Benny - Around Xander's age (27).

Anna, Anankos, Rainbow Sage - Ageless/Immortal.

[spoiler=Child Units]

Kana - 9 or 10

Percy, Midori, Kiragi, Selkie - 11 or 12

Shiro and Siegbert - 18

Shigure - 17

Soleil, Ignatius, Nina, Hisame, Asugi, Rhajat, Dwyer - 16

Mitama, Ophelia, Velouria, Sophie - 15

Forrest - 13 or 14

This is pretty damn close to what I think. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees the Nohr siblings being older than their Hoshido counterparts, except for Sakura being older than Elise.

[Abvora]

According to Hinoka's supports with Camilla, she was 7 when she started training with the naginata, and she started training to rescue Corrin. So she was 7 when he was kidnapped, and he wasn't any older than that--but able to walk, talk, and draw pictures, so out of toddlerhood at least. And, according to the JPN version, Sumeragi had started training him with a sword, which is definitely something a toddler shouldn't be given. I put him in the 5-6 range, personally. Azura also has to be older than Corrin, since her dad died before his parents met, but probably not more than a year or two older.

And since Elise hadn't been born yet (according to her supports with Azura), we just add her age in-game to 7 to figure out Hinoka's age, and from there we can make some rough guesstimates of everyone else's. Leo says Elise is "technically an adult", but adulthood in the medieval ages is different from adulthood now. Back then, women were considered adults at around 14~, so roughly 14 years have passed.

So, my guesses:

Xander: 25

Ryoma/Camilla: 24

Hinoka: 21

Azura: 20

Corrin: 19

Leo: 18

Takumi: 17

Sakura: 16

Elise: 14

Sakura's birthday is after Elise's, but we know she was born at the time (Corrin's support). So she has to be at least a year older than her, I just put her at 16 to make myself feel better about marrying her off. As for the rest, Xander, Camilla and Leo just strike me as older than Ryoma, Hinoka and Takumi (especially Takumi, who acts a bit like a teenager).

EDIT: As for the other characters:

Orochi states she used to babysit Takumi (their supports), meaning she's a fair bit older than him, probably Ryoma too. Kagero is her best friend, and Saizo and Kaze trained with Kagero, so they're probably around her age. I'd mark them as 27-ish.

I don't know how much time passed between Awakening and Fates for Selena, Las and Odin, but they look and act a bit older. If they were 18 there, I'd say they're 20 or so now.

Nyx calls her body that of a teenagers in one of her supports (I can't remember which one, sorry), but given that it still looks fairly young, I'm gonna go with 14 here, like Elise.

Silas is Corrin's best friend, so he's probably 19 like Corrin. Jakob, Felicia and Flora are all likely around that age as well, maybe a bit older in Jakob's case.

Hana and Effie are Sakura and Elise's best friends, so they're in the same age range. Hana looks like she could be 16--which also puts her in range of being friends with Takumi (their supports)--but Effe seems a bit older than Elise (it's her voice, I swear), so I'd say she's 16 too. Same goes for Mozu--Hayato looks a bit younger and gets mistaken for a kid. 15 for him is my guess.

Reina was Mikoto's retainer but looks older than her, so anywhere from 30-40. Gunter once had a wife and child, 40s-50s. Fuga was Sumeragi's best friends, 30s-40s. Yukimura was serving Sumeragi but doesn't look at as old as the others, so late twenties-early thirties?

I've got no numbers for anyone else. Niles, Azama, Benny, and Arthur should be older based off their appearances and experiences, mid-twenties, but that's it.

Edited April 29, 2016 by Abvora

[Res]

Yes; Sakura says in her support with Corrin that 'I was really little when you were kidnapped and taken to Nohr', so she was already born by that time.

Also, 3-4 year olds are more than capable of walking, talking and drawing decent pictures! Plus it would make more sense that Corrin was younger given their complete lack of memory of Hoshido.

[Abvora]

Yes; Sakura says in her support with Corrin that 'I was really little when you were kidnapped and taken to Nohr', so she was already born by that time.

Also, 3-4 year olds are more than capable of walking, talking and drawing decent pictures! Plus it would make more sense that Corrin was younger given their complete lack of memory of Hoshido.

Ah, thank you.

I attribute Corrin's lack of memory to a combination of PTSD and brainwashing. No way would Garon leave the chance of him remembering something about Hoshido, if he wanted him to be completely loyal to Nohr.

Also, in the JPN version, Corrin says that Sumeragi had started training him with a sword (Rev 25). Now 5 is still young to learn swordplay, but better than 3 or 4, when kids still tend to be a bit uncoordinated.

[SniperGYS]

Amm I see them like this:

Xander and Ryoma - Around 25

Camilla and Hinoka - Between 21-22, probably Camilla is older

Azura - 19 or 20, close to Corrin but younger than Camilla and Hinoka

Corrin - A range of 19 and 21, since they have 2 builds

Leo and Takumi - I can see Leo being a bit older, but they are young adults so, Leo 18 and Takumi 17

Sakura and Elise - As Sakura is older, I think she is around 15-16 and Elise between 14-15

For some other characters:

Orochi - Near the age of Ryoma, maybe a bit older, since from her supports with Takumi is implied that she taked care of him as a baby?

Hayato and Mozu - The same age than Sakura

Hinata - 18 or 19, he sounds older than Takumi... And I like the idea of him being older, it fits his big bro tendencies he have with the prince

Oboro - Somehow, I feel that she is younger or in the same age than Takumi, so 16 or 17

Hana - Same as Oboro

Asama, Saizo and Kagero - Same as Orochi, near Ryoma age

The awakening trio - Around 18-19

Midori, Kana and Percy - No more than 10... Screw localization saying the contrary about Midori and Percy! They can't be adults anyway!

Forrest and Kiragi - 11 or 12 , they still look a bit childlish

Selkie and Velouria - 13

Soleil, Nina, Ophelia - around 14-15

Shigure - 15 or 16

Shiro and Siegbert - 16 or 17

Mmm, that's all I can guess

Edited April 29, 2016 by SniperGYS