Fire Emblem : Wars Of The Ages

[Jackron]

I'm starting a new fire emblem hack, but I'm a single person with 1 ton of ideas and basic hacking skills. I need help with some things and I'll figure it out. I'll be starting by posting mugs and sprites of classes and people I've made. Feel free to make suggestions as I move on with the story and suggest characters and sprites to use.

[escotanner]

If you need any tips, I'd recommend looking at ghast ation's or Archibald's YouTube channel. They can help get you started

[Jackron]

Here's the story so far:

I'm a prince in a castle in a small country called Arcna. My country tends to peep into areas that we aren't allowed to and after our kingdom is framed for having spies in distant countries and kidnapping the neighboring country's (Linum) princess, Arlina. The people of my country are being accused of conspiring with the enemy country of Linum, Habin and are now under constant fire of them. Kinson, country of the half-beasts, trusts us and knows that Habin is covering up what really went on and are going at war with them. So right now, its Linum vs Arcna and Kinson vs Habin. The last country, Toknin is torn on which country is right and ends up in civil war over the matter and forces are spread out all around the continent of Chansing. Eirika takes to the sea with her father in order to find out if there is another continent on the other side of the world and is caught in the conflict and you help her escape.

There is the story. Tell me suggestions.

Edited June 9, 2016 by Jackron

[Jackron]

from the left; Janice (My personal guard), Adult Jack and Young Jack

[CobyTheGoober]

I think this should be moved to concepts instead, as it seems to still be in the planning stages.

[InvdrZim13]

The first suggestion that comes to mind is that you may want to reconsider the self insert stuff.

Also

For this mug, it just looks like his torso is two shoulders put together.

Consider posting these to the spriting forum, they'll be able to critique these and help you improve your spriting.

There's potential in this idea, but it definitely needs some polishing.

[Jackron]

ok, after some recent plot holes, I'm deciding to put this on a whole nother continent on the other side of the world, Eirika will be in the hack, but she will be 12, there on a voyage to discover if there is another continent over here. She will be escorted by about 20 guards that go as follows: 2 Generals, 1 Paladin, 3 Cavaliers, 10 Soldiers, a recruit and 3 Pirates to steer the ship. In the chapter that Eirika is in, she will not fight because she doesn't like it and Ephriam hasn't taught her anything about it, so you have to protect her while she makes her way to her ship. This chapter in particular will be made very difficult, because she will be moving straight through the center of town, unless you rescue her. In the town, since it's near the end of the game, there will be high level guards and Eirika will have her guards behind you and the 3 pirates on the ship. The guards will most likely die, unless you heal them, but most are stupid anyway. the goal is to have eirika reach the steer of the ship safely and she will escape.

[Tequila]

Why is this chapter near the end of the game, if the plot involves finding this continent (and presumably once there, doing things on said continent)? And for that matter, why are Eirika (her age notwithstanding) and Ephraim even in this hack? Your previous idea, minus the self-insert, sounded quite a bit more promising. Perhaps tell us some of the plot holes you found and maybe we can help fill them in?

[Jackron]

I meant Eirika comes in later because all this war is happening first and the last chapter isnt the only chapter that includes her in it, its just the last one that the game has and she is in it. It'll be super sad too, when the boat is sailing off, my guy and his crew are going to be surrounded by Linum's troops. I'll probly continue there, but not thinking about it yet. In total, I think Eirika will be on the continent for 5 chapters with notion of her arriving at the beginning of the first of five and she'll only be in on the 3rd and final chapter. This is a kind of story that is similar to columbus discovering america, but both are equal in tech. Plus, I never got to know how including myself in the hack is bad. Anyway, thought I would clear that up and I don't see plot holes, but I keep having them pointed out to me. I'm not going to have it so it seems I'm in the hack, Jack will just be the main character and I am giving him his own personality which will be blunt but honest. He is a person like everyone else and I am very good at analysing traits and making strengths and weaknesses for him.

Ask more and I'll think more

[Snarkey]

Ok, I have a couple things.

A) Could you explain the timeline? This is hella confusing for most of us. Can you explain it in DETAIL?

B) I don't think you should work on the last chapter when you JUST started making the story

C) I don't even think you should include Eirika, if she's in only the last and 3rd last chapter. It's pointless, and she has no relevance to the plot

D) This is NOT even CLOSE to Colombus discovering America

E) Even if you ignore all my points above, why is Fado bringing his 12-year old daughter on the trip? It's perilous, and she has no clue how to fight. In fact, if you're going to include someone from Sacred Stones, he'd probably bring young Ephraim, or Seth....

F) Also, the name Jack is waaaay too generic and it's not fitting of a royal.

G) Self insert's aren't necessarily bad, it's just when it's the "hero" or main character, and are either "perfect", can "hook up with a hot lady", can "cure their faults, or just "easily become the hero and badass automatically. You might want to just......make your self-insert someone else.

H) Blunt but honest is absolutely BORING, that's basically just Azama summed up. You want your character to have REAL backstory, with REAL personality.

[Mangs]

In the chapter that Eirika is in, she will not fight because she doesn't like it and Ephriam hasn't taught her anything about it, so you have to protect her while she makes her way to her ship.

As if I didn't hate Eirika enough already.

[Rezzy]

Here's the story so far:

I'm a prince in a castle in a small country called Arcna. My country tends to peep into areas that we aren't allowed to and after our kingdom is framed for having spies in distant countries and kidnapping the neighboring country's (Linum) princess, Arlina. The people of my country are being accused of conspiring with the enemy country of Linum, Habin and are now under constant fire of them. Kinson, country of the half-beasts, trusts us and knows that Habin is covering up what really went on and are going at war with them. So right now, its Linum vs Arcna and Kinson vs Habin. The last country, Toknin is torn on which country is right and ends up in civil war over the matter and forces are spread out all around the continent of Chansing. Eirika takes to the sea with her father in order to find out if there is another continent on the other side of the world and is caught in the conflict and you help her escape.

There is the story. Tell me suggestions.

I'd be wary of telling your story in the first person. It can lead to self insert fics, which have a reputation for bordering on Mary Sue territory. It's an unfair stereotype, but many players and readers will give a story a better chance when it's on the third person.

[InvdrZim13]

I meant Eirika comes in later because all this war is happening first and the last chapter isnt the only chapter that includes her in it, its just the last one that the game has and she is in it. It'll be super sad too, when the boat is sailing off, my guy and his crew are going to be surrounded by Linum's troops. I'll probly continue there, but not thinking about it yet. In total, I think Eirika will be on the continent for 5 chapters with notion of her arriving at the beginning of the first of five and she'll only be in on the 3rd and final chapter. This is a kind of story that is similar to columbus discovering america, but both are equal in tech. Plus, I never got to know how including myself in the hack is bad. Anyway, thought I would clear that up and I don't see plot holes, but I keep having them pointed out to me. I'm not going to have it so it seems I'm in the hack, Jack will just be the main character and I am giving him his own personality which will be blunt but honest. He is a person like everyone else and I am very good at analysing traits and making strengths and weaknesses for him.

Ask more and I'll think more

I don't think you should include Eirika (or other vanilla FE people) period. It's dumb, lazy, and doesn't make sense in this context, she wouldn't be there if she wasn't able to fight.

You also shouldn't be thinking about the end part of your game when you don't even have the start planned out.

Sure, Jack can have your personality, but don't use first person because it makes it seem like you're putting yourself in the hack and not making him his own character. But as Snarkey said, blunt and honest is boring. Give him more depth than that, make him an interesting character.

Seriously consider reworking your plot ideas, cause we're not just criticizing you to be mean, we're trying to get you to improve what you've got so you have something cool and interesting people want to try.

[Jackron]

This is going to be a big almost story kind of response to the sugesstions and questions I got.

First, I'll adress Snarkeys ideas.

A. Since I'm getting real bad rep for having eirika in the plot i'll cut her out. Anywho, I'll put me as a side character that will be introed sometime in the later plot. The main character will be a person that I have recently made, Mia. I'm not very imaginitive on names. I'll put her portrait last. To start, The continent of Chansing contains five countries that go as follows; Arcna, Linum, Habin, Kinsin and Toknin. Arcna is the country of convicts, with the highest crime rate, the security around all the towns is very high, Ruled my Mia. Linum is the country of merchants, a rich country full of mercenaries, Ruled by Arlina. Habin is a desert country, full of bandits and runaway soldiers, traitors and corrupt police, Ruled by Nuzben. Kinsin is full of half beasts and socially unacceptable people, but by far, one of the most civil countries in all of Chansing, Ruled by Landon. Toknin is the country of self rightous, glorylovers, militarily overpowered and the lowest crime rates, Ruled by Trous.

The story starts as so; Chansing is having one of it's annual counsil meetings between all the countries. The counsil is going all to plan, when an assassin shoots the king of Toknin with a poison arrow. When the assassin is caught, he is killed before he can even be interigated. The assassin bore the signia of Arcna, which sparks a war between Toknin and Arcna. The country of Habin recieves info from higher up official after he is caught fleeing the scene of the assassination. In the same night after the info is recieved the official is killed by one his inmates, which is a Linum spy. Habin tries to send the info to the people of Toknin, but their country is inaccessable because Linum's country is cutting them off from reaching them. Now Habin is at war with Linum. Kinsing isn't a country that likes war, so they try to make a decision of who is with who. Habin gives them info on who killed Trous, but cannot provide the official because of the assassination. The country is split on whether or not to believe them, so the country is thrown into civil war over the matter.

Mia, the queen of Arcna is given a duty she hasn't been given before. She was made queen at a significantly young age. Her parents went on a voyage to find a continent rumored to be called Magvel, but were lost at sea. Mia, a queen at the age of 15 has to govern a military garrison to war against a country twice their size. Mia is a honorable person with a twisted dark side and a bunch of unfired puns at her disposal. Thats the beginning. If you want me to discuss the chapter plots, I might, but I don't like to spoil the entire plot of the story.

B. I only made focus on the last chapter because of the attention to Eirika, but I didn't give anything away on what would happen in between.

C. I wanted Eirika in there because I wanted reference to my favorite FE game and I needed a senario to do so.

D. It is actually really close to Columbus discovering America because the fact that they went on a voyage and discovered another continent with people and governments already settled there.

E. I had Fado bring Eirika on the trip to have her see the new world first for her 12th birthday while Ephriam is at Magvel learning about what it takes to be king with Seth.

F. I agree, Jack isn't royal, so I'm putting him later in the story, somewhere in the desert, which means I'll have to cut out my young version of me out of the portraits.

G. The personality of blunt and honest isn't really boring, but I get your point. Jack will be a person who was once in the army, but deserted and ran to the desert to live a little more peacefully. He tends to get passionate about misrulings and noticed that the police in the place he was serving, Arcna, were becomming corrupt so he ran away from the country. Made blind by getting his eyes gouged out by a bunch of roaming bandits, he uses his other senses to get around and avoid attacks. He isn't very good when it comes to taking damage from magic, but is extremely lucky.

Can't really say anything for H cuz I already did.

On to InvdrZim13, Jack doesn't have my personality, but I thought of the personality of blunt and honest would make for some nice burns throughout the story.

Anyway Thanks for the critisizm i don't take this as bad, but as help from other people who have different views.

[Snarkey]

More questions!

A) A 15 year old queen? There's no way the parliament or council would dare allow that. They're too easily swayed, and especially since she has a "twisted dark side". They would elect one of the king's distant relatives, not some 15 year old twerp.

B) DO NOT FOCUS ON THE LAST CHAPTER WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN FINISHED THE FIRST.

C) Don`t add some random cameo that has no relevance to the story.

D) Colombus didn`t even DISCOVER America, he was looking for Asia and that`s a common misconception that he discovered America, the Vikings did. HE didn't even find the USA or Canada, he found the Bahamas. Seriously, are you really 17?

E) I don't think bringing her on a death-defying journey is a good birthday present....

F) No problems with this..

G) Blunt and honest is boring because blunt but honest is literally a one-trick pony, like all Fates and Awakening characters.

Also, so he's a coward?

Um, that's waayy to edgy, and falls under the "bad" self-insert category. You just inserted him so he could look badass, and make YOU look badass.

That's good, you shouldn't let others discourage you, but don't IGNORE people's advice.

[Jackron]

First off, 3/10 of your sentences were questions BUT!

A. Mia is an only child and I probly should have mentioned the last of her 'royal' bloodline. Her servant might betray her or not because they would be next in line. Plus the council was going to be discussing this durring the continent meeting, but was interrupted due to the assassin, so that was left unnattended. She had only been queen for almost a month at the time of the meeting. The council had just heard of her that month so they know virtually nothing about her.

B. I know it was just that Eirika was getting lots of attention and I just wanted people to leave it alone, but nope, gotta throw it out even after I had to think WAAAAY ahead of where I was before. Lastly, stop using so many caps, it hurts my feelings

C. Just thought it'd be nice to implement legends idk jesus.

D. Yes I'm 17, I'm just really bad at history.

E. Her dad doesn't know that it'd be perilous and its a gift of seeing a brand new continent. Whats better than that!?

F. Thank you!

G. I haven't played Awakening, but man do I want to. Also, He isn't a coward. Just because he didn't storm the freaking government and demand that they investigate the fking corrupt guard situation doesn't mean he's a coward. He can't do anything about other guards wrongdoings or he'll be put on the chopping block for hurting them. ALSO, IT'S NOT A SELF-FKING INSERT. Jackron is an alias that I have loved and just because my portrait is going to be in the game DOESN'T mean that I'm comparing it to myself. He's just the portrait that looks the coolest and I put the most work into. If I did another that I put more work into, I would have changed my portrait to it. I'm not trying to be self rightous in any way. I just want to make a Fire Emblem that I can put all my thought into and people would like it for the thought.

[Tequila]

E. Her dad doesn't know that it'd be perilous and its a gift of seeing a brand new continent. Whats better than that!?

You wouldn't send your royal child who can't even defend herself on a journey to an unknown land. What if the natives were hostile and held her for ransom, or worse, killed her? Like, this would be the stupidest thing her dad could do, short of going on the journey himself without arms/armor and carrying a sign saying "I AM TASTY".

[かベリー]

*cough cough* Not everyone cares about History or Columbus. *cough cough*

Don't be rude.

[Crazycolorz5]

You should put Dragon's Veins in the hack :).

*cough cough* Not everyone cares about History or Columbus. *cough cough*

Don't be rude.

how rood I live in Columbus

[Jackron]

You should put Dragon's Veins in the hack :).

how rood I live in Columbus

What is Dragon's Veins?? Like Myrhh's Dragonstone?

[Jackron]

You should put Dragon's Veins in the hack :).

how rood I live in Columbus

What is Dragon's Veins?? Like Myrhh's Dragonstone?

[Crazycolorz5]

What is Dragon's Veins?? Like Myrhh's Dragonstone?

Dragon's Veins? From Fire Emblem Fates?

[かベリー]

Lord A plants his butt on a special square, selects a thingy from the menu and special stuff happen, like causing rivers to dry out, make rain fall, damage enemies...

[Jackron]

No. At least not right now or even in this hack. My expeirience in hacking isn't good enough for it. If you can give me a tutorial or someone who knows how to, I might.

[Jackron]

Lisa (left), Nuzbin (right)