Jedi Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Well, if you're willing to take the penalty turns. Uhhhh what, undrafteds can recruit him and no countering means I can get him without penalty? Thats how I read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempestStorm Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 He was talking about Sacae. You're fine with Lugh, just run Marcus and Bors up to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted August 30, 2016 Author Share Posted August 30, 2016 Yeah, I was talking about going to Sacae. Sorry about the confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Gotcha sorry bout getting confused haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempestStorm Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Also maybe add a 20-turn penalty per chapter missed if you miss a gaiden and thus the rest of the game? You have to be pretty bad off to miss gaidens anyway (only one I see as a problem is 21x if someone is so bad off that they can't fight through the enemies and keep Yodel alive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintessence Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Nooo Jedi u got Lugh Uh ikd give me Wade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) When I'm doing this draft, I'm gonna be thinking: fuck the lot of you Edited August 31, 2016 by Peppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Rutger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempestStorm Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Since warpskipping is banned, knights suck, lolarcher, and thieves don't promote, there's really only 4 choices here. Geese. Yes I'm crazy. Yes I have a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Since warpskipping is banned, knights suck, lolarcher, and thieves don't promote, there's really only 4 choices here. Geese. Yes I'm crazy. Yes I have a plan. Does it involve crit hax eventually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempestStorm Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Does it involve crit hax eventually? That and mountainwalk to save like 5-10 turns in the Garret chapter. And one other thing that probably should be banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiboSai Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I'll try Lilina, at least she's in a good class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradivus. Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) And one other thing that probably should be banned. Secret Shop? It's stated that Fliers cannot be drafted and Undrafted units may visit shops so visiting it with fliers is within the rules anyway. Regardless if visiting the secret shop with peakwalk is allowed then so should visiting it with a flier be, or full-on banned. Boots are too good to be exclusive to some players. It's a bit unclear in the ruleset since you removed the rule about visiting it with fliers but didn't mention it anywhere else. I'm in favor of keeping boots allowed though, lategame maps are really long and the sadist concept isn't really hurt by having 15 mov units since you're still lowmanning (and don't have canto rescuing), which leads to the maps playing out much unlike in regular playthroughs. EDIT: Apparently I read too much into the "fliers may visit the secret shop" exception being removed. Never mind me then, although I guess it's nice to have clarification on this. Edited September 1, 2016 by Gradivus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 The secret shop is still a shop and thus can be visited by undrafted units. Although dealing with the reinforcement wyverns around it may be annoying if using an undrafted flyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempestStorm Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Yeah that's the difference maker. You have 3-4 combat units, so sending one or two to get boots (as bodyguards, not just to get them) as the others help Roy probably will cost turns. Meanwhile a Zerker can just grab boots no problem. I'll be the guinea pig for this, since I likely have no help till chapter 10 without grabbing an archer or thief. Edited August 31, 2016 by TempestStorm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Someone hit me over the head. Thanks~! I'm gonna be an idiot and pick Gonzales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Sword Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 What, you didn't pick Ellen? I'm disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempestStorm Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Gonz is probably just as bad. Having to treck Lilina through enemies and ballistae...ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 What, you didn't pick Ellen? I'm disappointed. I'd pick Saul anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Knight Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Goddamn second to last pick. I'm too tired to think of a good Fir pun, but yeah, Fir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YomuSabe Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Guess I'll take Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Guess I'll take Ray Pick another unit. Since you're last, your choose two units for your first pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YomuSabe Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 oh i'm sorry,then i'll pick dorothy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Knight Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Could someone clarify the rule 6? I'm not sure if the latter part of the rule is an extension to the Roy one (Roy can't be rescued under those circumstances), or if implies that warp/rescue chains are banned for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TempestStorm Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) Roy cannot be warped in any form, including a staff user getting warped then rescue staffing Roy, and Roy being rescued by like Bors and Bors getting warped Edited September 3, 2016 by TempestStorm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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