astrophys Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Copied and pasted from here, in attempt to solve a mystery about Fates' gameplay mechanics: https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/53yqqc/lets_attempt_to_derive_the_avatars_attack_stance/ Resources are out there for his growth rates, his mods, even his personal pair-up bonuses. But as far as I know, no such compilation is out there for the attack stance support bonuses in Hit, Avoid, Critical, and Evade. And I know that Serenes' postings cannot be the complete story here, as my Avatar gives different bonuses than they do. (On that note, Serenes also only shows the pattern of personal pair-up bonuses for Luck flaws at the currently time). Let's try to crack this mystery. What bonuses does your Avatar give to someone when they are standing next to to them, at what support ranks, and what is your boon/bane/talent. I have a +MAG/-LCK Dark Mage Male Avatar. He gives +15 Hit, +5 Avoid, and +9 Crit when standing next to his wife (S-rank). This contrasts with what Serenes thinks the answer is, which claims +15 Hit, +5 Avoid, +6 Crit, +5 Evade. If we build up a sufficiently large sample size of our boons/banes/talents and our attack stance bonuses, we can solve this mystery and figure out how it works. So post away so we can gather the data and figure out how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Well, I have +Mag/-Lck Wyvern Rider (currently Hosh Noble) FAvatar married to Niles. Would you want me to reclass into Wyvern Lord/Malig Knight and see if it gives anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 Well, I have +Mag/-Lck Wyvern Rider (currently Hosh Noble) FAvatar married to Niles. Would you want me to reclass into Wyvern Lord/Malig Knight and see if it gives anything? Well, on the reddit thread, we have two +MAG/-LCK types already with different talents (Mage & Diviner) and both have +15 hit, +9 Crit, +5 Avoid. So if you did this test as a Wyvern Lord and got the same answer, this would give a good hint that talent indeed has no effect on it. So sure. It would be a good double check. Also on the reddit, we had a +SPD/DEF type that was +15 Hit, +6 Crit, +5 Avoid, +5 Evade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactician_Iris Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 I've got +Skill/-Res on one of mine. I can check out the bonus soonish for you. (I've somehow forgotten what Bane my Birthright Corrin has, the Boon is Luck though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 Oh, that's great. No one so far has had either of those boons/banes. Should be interesting new information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebony Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Well, on the reddit thread, we have two +MAG/-LCK types already with different talents (Mage & Diviner) and both have +15 hit, +9 Crit, +5 Avoid. So if you did this test as a Wyvern Lord and got the same answer, this would give a good hint that talent indeed has no effect on it. So sure. It would be a good double check. Also on the reddit, we had a +SPD/DEF type that was +15 Hit, +6 Crit, +5 Avoid, +5 Evade. just tested it as a wyvern lord talent has no effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrophys Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Okay, so talent has no effect, but boon and bane does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactician_Iris Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) Oh dear...my squirrelbrain forgot to post my findings. Anyhoo here they are: Skill+/Res- gives +20 Hit/+6 Crit/+5 Avo Luck+/Res-* gives +15 Hit/+6 Crit/+10 Ddg */I'm not 100% certain that the Bane is Resistance on that Corrin, but judging by the stats my gut tells me it is Res and my fuzzy memory tells me I picked "Exciteable" during that Corrin's creation. Edited September 25, 2016 by Tactician_Iris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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