Frosty Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I've been observing across different Let's Plays done by other folks but does it have to be always a perfect / no-screw up run? It's kinda bugging me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) No. Crisply-edited is likely better but there aren't really many (any? I'm definitely not one myself) on this forum, it's a more casual-style LP community. My personal approach to errors is to be organic, but use discretion. I like imprinting the first run in full whether it fails or succeeds, then using personal discretion figuring out how many subsequent attempts to throw in (like in FFTA a second take won't be much more interesting for the audience, so I just skip to the end). Edited October 16, 2016 by Parrhesia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augestein Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I've been observing across different Let's Plays done by other folks but does it have to be always a perfect / no-screw up run? It's kinda bugging me... Depends on what you mean. If it's a mistake in the game, those are fine, but if someone got a phone call or something, I feel those should be edited out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAstraWolf Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 My style is to in case I fail in a certain part, I edit the whole 2nd attempt out until I reach the part I failed at, and then I resume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zera Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Why would you want to see a LP of someone failing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augestein Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 It makes it more suspenseful to watch. When you don't know if a person is going to win or not, it can make a more interesting watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zera Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I dunno about you, but watching crappy gamers get stuck on simple challenges for 5+ minutes is pretty boring to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.Leu Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 That's kinda of why Nuzlocke LP were created.But it's always nice to see things done 'professionally'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnip Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 If someone's commenting over recorded and edited footage, I highly prefer if they don't show multiple attempts of the same segment of the game. It's fine if they want to point out how tough one opponent was by showing a failed attempt or if the failure is particularly entertaining, but in general, I'm perfectly fine if they just show the successful play. Watching someone bonk their head repeatedly into the wall can only carry a video for so long. ;) A LP doesn't have to have that 'peeking over the player's shoulder' feeling. It's a valid approach too, but not the only one. If someone plays a Nuzlocke or a classical jRPG, I sure as hell don't want to watch 4 hours worth of footage of the player grinding their Pokemon / characters to a reasonable level. To me, it's the same with (especially multiple) failed attempts. It's nice if I know that they've been there, but I don't need the videos to prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I've been observing across different Let's Plays done by other folks but does it have to be always a perfect / no-screw up run? It's kinda bugging me... I mean I do challenge runs that require me to do things in one shot, so you can see screw ups and progression at the same time haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastor15243 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) While I enjoy the authenticity of people who don't edit out their mistakes, I personally also like it when there are fewer mistakes to edit out and they generally approach the game competently (unless it's a really hard game, then repeated failures are really entertaining to watch, not to mention satisfying when they succeed). Seeing people make careless mistakes or just refuse to learn from their mistakes has a tendency to annoy me. That doesn't mean I expect perfection, I just prefer a desire to take the game seriously. LPs that don't can still be entertaining if their personalities are good, but that's generally in spite of, rater than because of their lower competence. Edited October 17, 2016 by Alastor15243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrhesia Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I dunno about you, but watching crappy gamers get stuck on simple challenges for 5+ minutes is pretty boring to me. Sure, but there's a world of difference between that and just cutting out all failures. Nuance, mate, Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggyRob Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I've been observing across different Let's Plays done by other folks but does it have to be always a perfect / no-screw up run? It's kinda bugging me... I think it depends on the viewer and the game in question - for example, in Dark Souls it's very unlikely that you'll get a perfect run against a boss, so you'll see at least a few attempts. It also depends on whether everything has to be done in one shot e.g. an Ironman playthrough means no resets, so you'll see mistakes as they occur. On the other hand, it can be massively frustrating if someone is banging their head against a puzzle for 5+ minutes at a time when it'd be better to just skip to the solution when they eventually figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augestein Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I dunno about you, but watching crappy gamers get stuck on simple challenges for 5+ minutes is pretty boring to me. That's not it at all. Let me use an example. I watched someone playing Bloodborne. Some fights they won and some they lost at moments. One noteworthy fight, the beginning went terribly and then they proceeded to fight a perfect fight after being knocked down to critical hp. It's more exciting to watch an average game like that because you don't know the outcome. If they are terrible, then it's boring because watching someone lose over and over again is a lack of progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 I see... Uh, I was feelin' a little hesitant sharin' my playthrough, I'm covering Shoot em' Ups and me screwing up makes me feel a little insecure in the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 It depends! If you want to advertise your channel as some sort of optimized guide, then all screw-ups should be edited out. If this is an average runthrough, then by all means keep a few in there. As long as the video shows progression from beginning to end, without unnecessarily large gaps of "I'm stuck here, and it's slowing the pace down", it should be fine. If it's a particularly frustrating section, and it took you a while to get right, maybe put a couple of failed attempts, fade out to a black screen that says something like "25 tries later" (or however long it took to get it right), then show the correct attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 It depends! If you want to advertise your channel as some sort of optimized guide, then all screw-ups should be edited out. If this is an average runthrough, then by all means keep a few in there. As long as the video shows progression from beginning to end, without unnecessarily large gaps of "I'm stuck here, and it's slowing the pace down", it should be fine. If it's a particularly frustrating section, and it took you a while to get right, maybe put a couple of failed attempts, fade out to a black screen that says something like "25 tries later" (or however long it took to get it right), then show the correct attempt. Ahh... I see, I did edit out screw-ups although kept in a few. Although so far, I was asked to do Normal Mode runs first before I go for the Hard Mode. Already posted my first two vids in Normal mode of the game I'm playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Ooh, nice! Do you mind posting a link to one of your videos? I'm not the best at critiquing LPs, but I might be able to throw in a few helpful suggestions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Ooh, nice! Do you mind posting a link to one of your videos? I'm not the best at critiquing LPs, but I might be able to throw in a few helpful suggestions! Ah, alright... I, uh... sent you a PM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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