Vaximillian Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Baldrick said: I guess Fighter skills could be considered coal. Naughty children, all of us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlight Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 These skill tags were uncovered in the datamined. Spoilers, duh Spoiler SAID_特殊射程_守備魔防最低値参照無効 - close/distant counter + nullify adaptive damage SAID_戦闘強化_追撃不可 - combat boosts + foe cannot make a follow-up attack SAID_敵強化無効_守備魔防最低値参照無効 - dull + nullify adaptive damage SAID_反撃不可無効 - nullify no counterattacks SAID_最高値TP変動 - "highest stat (?) cooldown count" SAID_全体ダメージ_縦列攻撃設備破壊 - "all damage - destroy offensive structures on column" We still have a global buff, drive status and a few other things yet to be introduced in 3.0. The ones above are meant for 3.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, silveraura25 said: These skill tags were uncovered in the datamined. Spoilers, duh Hide contents SAID_特殊射程_守備魔防最低値参照無効 - close/distant counter + nullify adaptive damage SAID_戦闘強化_追撃不可 - combat boosts + foe cannot make a follow-up attack SAID_敵強化無効_守備魔防最低値参照無効 - dull + nullify adaptive damage SAID_反撃不可無効 - nullify no counterattacks SAID_最高値TP変動 - "highest stat (?) cooldown count" SAID_全体ダメージ_縦列攻撃設備破壊 - "all damage - destroy offensive structures on column" We still have a global buff, drive status and a few other things yet to be introduced in 3.0. The ones above are meant for 3.1 Spoiler Nullify NO counterattacks great! We'll need new visible counters for the different layers of skills (2 times guaranteed follow-up against 1 time cancel follow-up and higher SPD). Edited December 13, 2018 by mampfoid forgot an important NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, silveraura25 said: Spoilers, duh Yay for more broken Christmas units. Edited December 13, 2018 by Vaximillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Forgot a "NO" in my spoiler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexBolt Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I just beat all seven stages of Arena Assalt on autoplay today. Like, i was just doing my usual participation thingie so i got the weekly 10 seals and when i noticed i had already clered it all without playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 @silveraura25 Spoiler For the skill effect "SAID_最高値TP変動", it appears to be "maximum Special charge rate". @mampfoid Spoiler There's no need to count these things. Negation of a skill effect simply means you pretend all of the opponent's skill effects that you negated temporarily cease to exist, no matter how many of them there are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, silveraura25 said: These skill tags were uncovered in the datamined. Spoilers, duh Hide contents SAID_反撃不可無効 - nullify no counterattacks 5 hours ago, mampfoid said: Hide contents Nullify NO counterattacks great! We'll need new visible counters for the different layers of skills (2 times guaranteed follow-up against 1 time cancel follow-up and higher SPD). NOOO!!!!!! WHY!!!??? Spoiler Unless they make Blade tomes, Brave Weapons, and Firesweep Weapons able to be Refined, this a huge nerf to Player Phase units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, XRay said: NOOO!!!!!! WHY!!!??? Because firesweep was a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 @XRay GIving up a skill slot to negate Firesweep is pretty expensive, though, since it leaves you vulnerable to a lot of other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneStar Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Mytic Boost 3 helps out Alm with his refine I'm guessing. -5 HP from the Falchion then +6 HP from Mystic boost after combat. 1 minute ago, Ice Dragon said: @XRay GIving up a skill slot to negate Firesweep is pretty expensive, though, since it leaves you vulnerable to a lot of other things. It might be a sacred seal like Hardy Bearing that would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, LoneStar said: It might be a sacred seal like Hardy Bearing that would be good. Giving up your Sacred Seal slot is also expensive since it could otherwise have been used for Distant Def or Quick Riposte that are more generally relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneStar Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Ice Dragon said: Giving up your Sacred Seal slot is also expensive since it could otherwise have been used for Distant Def or Quick Riposte that are more generally relevant. That's true, but something like that allows Micaiah to have a trivialize the Brave Veronica spam in Aether Raids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, LoneStar said: Mytic Boost 3 helps out Alm with his refine I'm guessing. -5 HP from the Falchion then +6 HP from Mystic boost after combat. Add in Atk/Spd Push to account for the final 1 HP, and you’re golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: Because firesweep was a mistake. I will just use spoilers just in case. Spoiler I rather deal with Player Phase cancer than Enemy Phase/dual phase cancer. With Player Phase cancer, you can at least avoid them and initiate on them during your Player Phase. With Null-Firesweep, Enemy Phase/dual phase cancer cannot be safely dealt with on either phase unless you have a counter. 12 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: GIving up a skill slot to negate Firesweep is pretty expensive, though, since it leaves you vulnerable to a lot of other things. Spoiler But a lot of units can afford to give up a Sacred Seal slot, especially for dual phase armors. I guess I can run Null-Counter, but that only solves melee units. Edited December 13, 2018 by XRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneStar Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: Add in Atk/Spd Push to account for the final 1 HP, and you’re golden. Sacking an HS!Elincia if I can summon her is going to hurt a bit, but that's solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, LoneStar said: Sacking an HS!Elincia if I can summon her is going to hurt a bit, but that's solid. I kinda sorta regret having foddered my Summer Tana to Celica now. Then again, it’s not like I’ve had Alm back then, I’ve known Mystic Boost would’ve been a thing, and I’d have pulled additional Eirs because sure as hell I’m not foddering my only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverly Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Finally I can put my 450ish coins (and counting) to use, unless all of the sacred seals suck, but I remember having some of the most best seals come around the end of the year like Quick Reposte and Heavy Blade, so I’m hoping they’re great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: @XRay GIving up a skill slot to negate Firesweep is pretty expensive, though, since it leaves you vulnerable to a lot of other things. Meeting 2 Wrazzle Dazzle healers regularly in AR, that skill would be worth a slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, mampfoid said: Meeting 2 Wrazzle Dazzle healers regularly in AR, that skill would be worth a slot. It's literally only worthwhile in Aether Raids, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: It's literally only worthwhile in Aether Raids, though. If people pull for multiple Eirs, pulling for a skill would make sense too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, mampfoid said: If people pull for multiple Eirs, pulling for a skill would make sense too. My response wasn't about whether or not people will pull for it, it was a response to the doompanic that was happening about the skill's possible existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewyn Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, XRay said: NOOO!!!!!! WHY!!!??? Reveal hidden contents Unless they make Blade tomes, Brave Weapons, and Firesweep Weapons able to be Refined, this a huge nerf to Player Phase units. X-Ray my player phase bro! I completely agree. Plus player phase takes so much more skill to use and strategy, and is a million times more fun. Seriously what the hell IS! These better not be seals but 5 star seasonal locked skills, at least then I won't see much of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DehNutCase Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Lewyn said: X-Ray my player phase bro! I completely agree. Plus player phase takes so much more skill to use and strategy, and is a million times more fun. Seriously what the hell IS! These better not be seals but 5 star seasonal locked skills, at least then I won't see much of it. Nah, the 'natural' way to completely end player phase is to give 5 unit arenas, buff the arena legendary hero blessings to +5/+5 stats, and then just have 70 def/res 90 hp solo carry armors being commonplace. (You run something like Hack-o'-Lantern Mystic Boost and heal from being attacked.) Which is something I think they're capable of doing, now. The anti-firesweep makes literally no difference for me, it actually makes matchups easier since they might drop something relevant for it. Edited December 13, 2018 by DehNutCase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Lewyn said: X-Ray my player phase bro! I completely agree. Plus player phase takes so much more skill to use and strategy, and is a million times more fun. Seriously what the hell IS! These better not be seals but 5 star seasonal locked skills, at least then I won't see much of it. Spoiler I am not sure if I want it to be a Sacred Seal or a skill. If it is a Sacred Seal, then I will only have to face one of it at most per team. But if it is a skill, then I can be screwed really bad since the entire defense team can run it. I lean a little towards it being a Sacred Seal. 20 minutes ago, DehNutCase said: The anti-firesweep makes literally no difference for me, it actually makes matchups easier since they might drop something relevant for it. Spoiler But it makes a difference to me! This is not just in PvP mode. If they put this skill in Abyssal, then I am kind of fucked. Firesweep ASS!Takumi is a critical part of my flier team to take down shit that my Blade NS!F!Corrin cannot take down. For PvP, I rely on Firesweep as my crutch. I remember Nowi being a huge pain in the ass to deal with when Weapon Refinement came out, forcing me to switch from Brave Bow to Firesweep Bow. With Null Firesweep, I am not sure what I can switch to. Edited December 14, 2018 by XRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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