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[EricaofRenais]

4 hours ago, silverserpent said:

I've decided, after seeing Itsuki utterly decimate opponents at +0, that he's my next grail project. Sorry, Heath, Haar.

Welcome to the make Itsuki +10 club, which now has two members.  Itsuki is the only Falchion wielder I like enough to want to +10 so I will be merging him up as well.

[Icelerate]

9 minutes ago, EricaofRenais said:

Welcome to the make Itsuki +10 club, which now has two members.  Itsuki is the only Falchion wielder I like enough to want to +10 so I will be merging him up as well.

I am also planning to +10 him even though I have no attachment to him as a character just because of his usefulness in AR and arena. 

[SockPuppet]

28 minutes ago, EricaofRenais said:

Welcome to the make Itsuki +10 club, which now has two members.  Itsuki is the only Falchion wielder I like enough to want to +10 so I will be merging him up as well.

I love Itsuki so much. I already have a Masked Marth at +10, but he is one of my favorites so I will build him up as well.

[Tybrosion]

The complete results of A Hero Rises are up, so I decided to compile a couple of (mostly dubious) categories out of curiosity:

Overall Bottom 20

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1. Hawkeye: 62
2. Sully: 69
3. Mathilda: 75
4. Gwendolyn: 76
5. Clive: 83
     Draug: 83
     Kjelle: 83
8. Jagen: 87
9. Halloween Dorcas: 89
10. Abel: 90
11. Jamke: 92
12. Roderick: 93
13. New Year's Eir: 95
14. Bartre: 96
       Valbar: 96
       Arthur: 96
       Hinata: 96
18. Legion: 103
       Luke: 103
20. Saias: 104
       Gharnef: 104
       Garon: 104

Bottom 20 5* Exclusives

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1. Kjelle: 83
2. Luke: 103
3. Siegbert: 116
4. Gray: 124
5. Saber: 135
6. Green Olwen: 142
7. Olwen: 143 damn, almost tied with herself
     Karel: 143
9. Dorcas: 164
10. Sumia: 167
11. Mist: 171
12. Eyvel: 185
13. Nina: 195
14. Quan: 197
15. Sue: 198
16. Helbindi: 199
17. Osian: 204
18. Leif: 208
19. Hector: 213 yes, really
20. Hardin: 215
       Larum: 215

Bottom 20 Seasonals which somehow Summer Leo didn't make (grail units excluded)

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1. Halloween Dozla: 114
2. Bridal Sigrun: 116
3. Summer Innes: 151
4. New Year's Laevatein: 152
5. Summer Frederick: 162 sorry, Ana
     Hot Spring Elise: 162
7. Bridal Sanaki: 166
8. Bridal Tanith: 168
9. Summer Xander: 179
10. Hot Spring Ryoma: 180
11. Summer Elise: 181
12. Spring Xander: 182
13. Dancer Ryoma: 183
14. Winter Ephraim: 185
15. Summer Gaius: 186
16. Valentine's Lilina: 202
17. Dancer Xander: 209
18. Winter Zephiel: 214
19. Singer Shigure: 221
20. Summer Helbindi: 233

All Legendaries & Mythics

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1. Altina: 47,639
2. Sothis: 20,694
3. Leif: 17,756
4. Azura: 15,409
5. Alm: 15,376
6. Lif: 14,693
7. Ike: 6,509
8. Roy: 6,223
9. Julia: 5,585
10. Celica: 4,839
11. Thrasir: 3,821
12. Lucina: 3,529
13. F!Robin: 3,458
14. Marth: 2,897
15. Y!Tiki: 2,724
16. Eliwood: 2,715
17. Naga: 2,646
18. Fjorm: 2,617
19. Hector: 2,363
20. Yune: 1,913
21. Eir: 1,468
22. Lyn: 1,465
23. Hrid: 1,266
24. Ephraim: 1,224
25. Duma: 1,167
26. Eirika: 1,137
27. Peony: 711
28. Gunnthra: 613
29. Ryoma: 370

 

[Sunwoo]

Hm. I guess Kjelle is somehow even less desirable than Luke, who if I recall correctly wasn't at all desirable the last time this event (or even Find and Vote) ran.

[NegativeExponents-]

34 minutes ago, Tybrosion said:

Bottom 20 5* Exclusives

*Jaffar is not part of this* I'm so proud of my boy actually scoring good enough to not be part of this when even characters like Hector, Hardin, Helbindi, Dorcas, and Larum are here.

Edited February 18, 2020 by NegativeExponents-

[SockPuppet]

Kelley deserves better 😞 

[daisy jane]

@Anacybele

 

because it's not.

 

before start of combat.
before you actually move. so any skill that works on visble buffs (like pegasus flight) needs to see what the stats are before you actually atk. 

 

in combat buffs
calculates everything you do when you fight

 

there are some weapons and skills that take into before combat buffs (igrene) and then adds more penalties in combat (also igrene). 

but "because it sounds the same" isn't the same - and that's what will get you in trouble expecting it to be the same. 

[Landmaster]

11 hours ago, EricaofRenais said:

Welcome to the make Itsuki +10 club, which now has two members.  Itsuki is the only Falchion wielder I like enough to want to +10 so I will be merging him up as well.

I plan to be in this club, too, TYVM~

[Anacybele]

3 hours ago, daisy jane said:

@Anacybele

 

because it's not.

 

before start of combat.
before you actually move. so any skill that works on visble buffs (like pegasus flight) needs to see what the stats are before you actually atk. 

 

in combat buffs
calculates everything you do when you fight

 

there are some weapons and skills that take into before combat buffs (igrene) and then adds more penalties in combat (also igrene). 

but "because it sounds the same" isn't the same - and that's what will get you in trouble expecting it to be the same. 

This is still confusing to me, but if Swift Sparrow doesn't work with Pegasus Flight, then it doesn't work. Oh well...

12 hours ago, Tybrosion said:

5. Summer Frederick: 162 sorry, Ana

Eh, it was rather expected. Summer Freddy is a year one seasonal with no good skills and he's not a popular character. xP All he's got going for him, honestly, is being a hot guy for some folks like myself.

Speaking of Summer Freddy, I like that I basically have pirate Freddy when I make him wear Rath's bandana accessory. lol

Edited February 18, 2020 by Anacybele

[silverserpent]

13 hours ago, EricaofRenais said:

Welcome to the make Itsuki +10 club, which now has two members.  Itsuki is the only Falchion wielder I like enough to want to +10 so I will be merging him up as well.

Yeah. It'll be slow going, since I need 400 more to finish off Leo. Plus feathers. Ross is +6 and waiting for enough to reach +10 as well. Then it's Echidna and Python since I have enough copies of them lying around. 

[daisy jane]

14 hours ago, EricaofRenais said:

Welcome to the make Itsuki +10 club, which now has two members.  Itsuki is the only Falchion wielder I like enough to want to +10 so I will be merging him up as well.

Me too!

ME TOO!

I like Itsuki a lot and he's like one of the only dragon killers with good res! i just need another DC unit for him.

[silverserpent]

4 hours ago, daisy jane said:

Me too!

ME TOO!

I like Itsuki a lot and he's like one of the only dragon killers with good res! i just need another DC unit for him.

DC'd work, But I was going for making him an EP tank with Def/Spd stacking.

[EricaofRenais]

I am glad to see more then just one or two people like Itsuki enough to +10 him.  Sorry I haven't responded I haven't been feeling all that well today so I have been slow doing things, but I am feeling a bit better now.

Edited February 19, 2020 by EricaofRenais

[Fire Emblem Fan]

Glad to see Lyn wasn't in any of those bottom lists (at least from what I saw). Anyone gonna mention the fact that Edelgard only beat Lif by 200 votes?

*Ahem* Anyway, is Itsuki really THAT good? Is he worth investing in?

[Sunwoo]

Edelgard really beat Lif by only 200 votes?

Wow, lame. If I'd known, I'd have voted half-and-half for Leif and Lif.

I don't necessarily have anything against Edelgard, I'd be fine getting a neutral version of her. I just feel like Lif was a better option for AHR.

[Tybrosion]

52 minutes ago, Fire Emblem Fan said:

Anyone gonna mention the fact that Edelgard only beat Lif by 200 votes?

Oh, I certainly noticed that. I just didn't want to bring attention to that depressing fact.

I suppose I'll also add a couple more categories:

Top 20 Seasonals (grail units excluded)

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1. New Year's Duo Alfonse: 21,965
2. Winter Sothis: 16,955
3. Halloween Duo Hector: 4,699
4. Bridal Fjorm: 3,241
5. Winter Duo Marth: 2,492
6. Halloween Myrrh: 2,490
7. Summer Laegjarn: 2,101
8. Summer Lyn: 2,012
9. New Year's Selkie: 1,819
10. Performing Arts Azura: 1,611
11. Dancer Ishtar: 1,496
12. Valentine's Ike: 1,311
13. Halloween Mia: 1,294
14. New Year's Anna: 1,213
15. Summer F!Corrin: 907
16. Winter Nino: 875
       Bridal Tharja: 875
18. Dancer Micaiah: 830
19. Winter Tharja: 818
20. Summer Camilla: 811

Top 20 5* Exclusives

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1. Edelgard: 14,808
2. Idunn: 12,113
3. Dimitri: 7,995
4. F!Byleth: 7,896
5. Brave Veronica: 7,136
6. Fallen F!Corrin: 6,982
7. Surtr: 6,933
8. Claude: 5,862
9. M!Byleth: 5,294
10. Fallen Y!Tiki: 5,099
11. Fallen M!Robin: 3,800
12. Brave Micaiah: 3,426
13. Tibarn: 3,379
14. Tsubasa: 3,149
15. Brave Ike: 3,134
16. Brave Camilla: 2,917
17. Hilda: 2,864
18. Brave Lyn: 2,735
19. Ophelia: 2,411
20. Igrene: 2,213

Top 20 Book I Units

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1. Brave Ike: 3,134
2. Brave Lyn: 2,735
3. Brave Lucina: 1,840
4. Performing Arts Azura: 1,611
5. Lucina: 1,533
6. M!Robin: 1,336
7. A!Tiki: 1,290
8. Sigurd: 1,283
9. Takumi: 1,278
10. Nephenee: 1,274
11. Ayra: 1,271
12. Nino: 1,245
13. Marth: 1,158
14. Black Knight: 1,151
15. Camilla: 1,118
16. Lyn: 1,038
17. Mia: 1,026
18. Reinhardt: 993
19. Summer F!Corrin: 907
20. Tharja: 858

RIP Brave Roy

All Grail Units

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1. Black Knight: 1,151
    (and for the record yes, he did get more votes than Zelgius)
2. Itsuki: 803
3. Kronya: 609
4. Naesala: 592
5. Dancer Rinea: 509
6. Xander: 485
7. Finn: 473
8. Spring Loki: 404
9. Fallen Delthea: 398
10. Marisa: 389
11. Fallen Takumi: 375
12. Aversa: 360
13. Adrift Azura: 359
14. Death Knight: 353
15. Berkut: 337
16. Arvis: 325
17. Lyon: 318
       F!Robin: 318
19. Masked "Marth": 316
20. Rutger: 304
21. Navarre: 292
22. Hot Spring Camilla: 276
23. Joshua: 270
24. Panne: 266
25. Cormag: 249
26. Haar: 248
27. Camus: 237
28. Brunnya: 234
29. Conrad: 218
30. Picnic Leo: 214
31. Bridal Louise: 213
32. Michalis: 210
33. Clarisse: 209
34. Ethlyn: 187
35. Linus: 185
36. Julius: 184
       Valter: 184
38. Oliver: 181
39. Groom Marth: 180
40. M!Kana: 179
41. New Year's M!Corrin: 178
42. Cynthia: 173
43. Summer Fiora: 171
44. Summer Ylgr: 160
45. Valentine's Eliwood: 157
46. Valentine's Titania: 155
47. Kempf: 153
48. Arden: 150
       Winter Cecilia: 150
50. Astram: 145
51. Halloween Rolf: 144
       Canas: 144
53. Zephiel: 140
54. New Year's Laegjarn: 138
55. Travant: 137
56. Tobin: 132
       Narcian: 132
58. Walhart: 131
59. Winter Jaffar: 125
60. Lloyd: 117
61. Ursula: 113
62. Gerome: 107
63. Garon: 104
       Gharnef: 104
       Saias: 104
66. Legion: 103
67. New Year's Eir: 95
68. Jamke: 92
69. Halloween Dorcas: 89
70. Clive: 83

 

[JSND Alter Dragon Boner]

1 hour ago, Fire Emblem Fan said:

Glad to see Lyn wasn't in any of those bottom lists (at least from what I saw). Anyone gonna mention the fact that Edelgard only beat Lif by 200 votes?

*Ahem* Anyway, is Itsuki really THAT good? Is he worth investing in?

For the most part its favoritism

 

Itsuki is pretty much just Chrom with a depending on how you look at it easier or harder conditional, mainly easier

 

Chrom:

47/37/25/31/17

Sealed: 47/58/30/36/22

Bonded: 50/57/29/35/21

 

Itsuki:

41/37/30/33/32

Weapon: 41/60/30/43/32

 

85 vs 84 physical bulk, 71 vs 73 magical bulk, when comapred to bonded version but due to bigger score a supported Itsuki can get some mean tankiness. I guess in this day and age those kind of trait can be valuable

[Zeo]

@JSND Alter Dragon Boner That's pretty annoying considering I have basically a +10 Chrom. I hope Horse Chrom gets a sealed Falchion refine that improves his weapon so OG Chrom can have a Falchion that isn't so conditional. It's hard to build Chrom right now with either +ATK or +SPD and Itsuki at this point is literally just better Chrom without the Renewal effect.

So Nils is fun. Not reinventing the wheel but he's refreshing. It really makes me feel like Ninian should get her refine next month though. I wonder if she'd get the same thing as her brother for consistency.

@mampfoid @Alexmender @DLNarshen @NegativeExponents- @Rafiel's Aria @Anacybele @Ginko @daisy jane @mcsilas @SatsumaFSoysoy

Now... about Leila... she's a freaking monster. She probably is the closest contender to L!Alm in my barracks now as far as pure colorless nukes. Everything she touches dies. She's tied with B!Ephraim and Chrom for the highest ATK stat in my barracks and eclipses everyone else with the highest SPD stat at 51. She hits 65/56 offenses when initiating and has 71/62 with tactics boosts. What the heck.... The parallel with Matthew is so unbelievable because she has far and away the best offenses of any unit in my barracks (with a firesweep effect to boot) to Matthew, who, while he doesn't have the best bulk on paper is in fact the best omni-tank in my barracks. They fit eachother so perfectly. Even in terms of gameplay she sets him up better than he himself does.

Finding a good partner for Leila is going to be tricky and will probably take a while, but I know one thing: she really, really wants Matthew. And you know what?... she can have him.

Breaking his support with Inigo hurt, but this feels right. I'll probably pair the guys back up later but for now, I want to see how perfectly these two synergize. Maybe you guys might get to see as well~!

[eclipse]

So y'all that were complaining about Heath?  I think I've hit A Build for him - one where all the fodder is in the 3-4 pool (seal is another matter, but it's hardly the biggest offender).  His stat line sits firmly between neutral Cordelia and Est, except he's bulkier than both.

Probably not the next big thing in AR, but it should be amusing.  Might attempt to solo maps with him, assuming it's not Arrowland.

[SatsumaFSoysoy]

At least in AR, Leila still feels kinda hard to use. Her final debuffing power is stronger than Temari Tethys, but you have to set that shit up instead of just having an unblockable -5/-5 on the enemies.

[NegativeExponents-]

@eclipse I disagree because they both have access to IVs and, more importantly, good prfs but I'm intrigued. What's this build you've thought up?

[mampfoid]

@Zeo lovely killer couple!

My Leila still sits at level 1, but not for long. I'm curious to try her prf with some different tanks. Too bad it doesn't work with link skills, that would have been fun. 

[NegativeExponents-]

@Zeo That was quick. Didn't think you'd split up Matt and Inigo quite yet. Makes sense though. Leila and Matt truly are meant for each other.

My Leila hasn't seen much use yet but I'm loving the swap affect. At first I thought it'd be more of a hindrance than anything but it's pretty cool. The lack of synergy with feints, links, and ruse skills is a bit of a bummer tho but still fun use nonetheless.

[Fire Emblem Fan]

49 minutes ago, eclipse said:

So y'all that were complaining about Heath?  I think I've hit A Build for him - one where all the fodder is in the 3-4 pool (seal is another matter, but it's hardly the biggest offender).  His stat line sits firmly between neutral Cordelia and Est, except he's bulkier than both.

Probably not the next big thing in AR, but it should be amusing.  Might attempt to solo maps with him, assuming it's not Arrowland.

I am 100% interested. I already have Heath promoted, merged, and inherited Vanguard Lance+ and Ignis.