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Weird detail I just noticed: Seven units have B slot Dance skills that give an Atk bonus - Performing Arts Olivia with Blaze Dance and two each for its Atk/Spd, Atk/Def, and Atk/Res counterparts, but Olivia is the only one of the seven to have any levels of Blaze Dance. Lene and Groom Rafiel both have Gale Dance 1 > Firestorm Dance, Dancer Nephenee and Dancer Eldigan both have Earth Dance 1 > Caldera Dance, and Dancer Micaiah and Dancer Rinea both have Torrent Dance 1 > Fireflood Dance. Any of those six could have had Blaze Dance 1 as the first level instead, but none of them do. Wonder why.

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Crazy idea: would it be considered a bad move for Shinon to have Brave Bow+ in his kit? 

Essentially trading the stat booster quality of the Double Bow for the high chance to quad / less chance for counterattacks. His def is a bit too low for me to tank comfortably, so the CC status of the Double Bow never seemed appealing... maybe that's just I've always seen archers as player phase nukes.

'm a filthy casual, but basing this off of how godly Midori was with a brave bow even with her crap speed ...  ( ngl, already done it out of shits n' giggles, and 'cause i have a few spare Kleins. ) 

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13 minutes ago, kradeelav said:

Crazy idea: would it be considered a bad move for Shinon to have Brave Bow+ in his kit? 

Essentially trading the stat booster quality of the Double Bow for the high chance to quad / less chance for counterattacks. His def is a bit too low for me to tank comfortably, so the CC status of the Double Bow never seemed appealing... maybe that's just I've always seen archers as player phase nukes.

'm a filthy casual, but basing this off of how godly Midori was with a brave bow even with her crap speed ...  ( ngl, already done it out of shits n' giggles, and 'cause i have a few spare Kleins. ) 

It certainly doesn't hurt him to have the option, and the only real cost is 20k feathers. I think the only real question is how much benefit you're getting relative to any other Brave Bow archers you have. If he's your best fast one, sure, why not?

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39 minutes ago, kradeelav said:

Crazy idea: would it be considered a bad move for Shinon to have Brave Bow+ in his kit? 

For standard player phase Desperation build, I would not switch to Brave Bow, since Double Bow is one of the few bows that actually rivals Brave Bow in raw power via raw stats and Slaying effect. Off the top of my head, the only other bows to do so are Bernadetta's Persecution Bow (raw stats and Desperation) and SK!Alm's Lunar Arc (damage scales with foe's Def). For player phase builds in general, Slaying Bow and its exclusive equivalents rival Brave Bow in power through Blazing-Special Spiral, while Firesweep Bow rivals Brave Bow in usefulness by doing a different role.

This should have been the bow ANF!Claude got instead of the Fart Parthia he has right now. Wind Parthia's player phase usability is heavily nerfed by the stupid healing effect, so despite being almost identical to Double Bow, Wind Parthia is kind of crap for player phase usage.

Calculator and Challenger List: against Hard List, both sides +10 with 6/6/6/6 bonus buffs, and challengers with Desperation have 1 HP.

Spoiler

CHALLENGER LIST  
Shinon (5*+10 +spd -hp)  
Weapon: Double Bow  
Special: Ruptured Sky  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Shinon (5*+10 +atk -hp)  
Weapon: Brave Bow+  
Special: Luna  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Shinon (5*+10 +atk -hp)  
Weapon: Double Bow  
Special: Blazing Wind  
A: Life and Death 4  
B: Special Spiral 3  
S: Hardy Bearing 3  

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39 minutes ago, kradeelav said:

Essentially trading the stat booster quality of the Double Bow for the high chance to quad / less chance for counterattacks. His def is a bit too low for me to tank comfortably, so the CC status of the Double Bow never seemed appealing... maybe that's just I've always seen archers as player phase nukes.

If you want to turn him into a super tank, you will want to bring BH!Lucina along and give him either Luna (maximum damage output), Moonbow/Ruptured Sky (guaranteed damage output), and or Aether (sustainability).

21 minutes ago, Othin said:

It certainly doesn't hurt him to have the option, and the only real cost is 20k feathers. I think the only real question is how much benefit you're getting relative to any other Brave Bow archers you have. If he's your best fast one, sure, why not?

According to the calculator, Brave Bow-Brazen gives him 5 extra kills versus Double Bow-Brazen, so I do not think that difference is significant enough to be worth it.

Edited by XRay

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1 hour ago, Othin said:

Weird detail I just noticed: Seven units have B slot Dance skills that give an Atk bonus - Performing Arts Olivia with Blaze Dance and two each for its Atk/Spd, Atk/Def, and Atk/Res counterparts, but Olivia is the only one of the seven to have any levels of Blaze Dance. Lene and Groom Rafiel both have Gale Dance 1 > Firestorm Dance, Dancer Nephenee and Dancer Eldigan both have Earth Dance 1 > Caldera Dance, and Dancer Micaiah and Dancer Rinea both have Torrent Dance 1 > Fireflood Dance. Any of those six could have had Blaze Dance 1 as the first level instead, but none of them do. Wonder why.

IS be derps.

Well, in all seriousness, I think Eldigan with his ridiculous defenses would lean more towards earth/defense, while Micaiah and Rinea with their gentle personalities (and Micaiah's huge res stat) would lean towards being water. Not sure about Nephenee, though. At least, that's my only theory about it.

EDIT: As for Lene and Rafiel, well ... Rafiel literally can't fight (so lol attack) and Lene ... uh, has higher speed than attack? I don't know.

Edited by Sunwoo

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DOH!

This happened while letting the AI autobattle to level up. Of course my already leveled units have their weapons unequipped so they can't break that rubble.

You just can't trust the AI can you?

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Shinon has 171 BST, Draug has 169.... OG Marth has 158 BST , dancing Lachesis has 157....

Guys, how many years it will be until we have dancing ranged flier with the BST of gen 1 armor (assuming the  game last that long) ? 

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8 hours ago, DraceEmpressa said:

Shinon has 171 BST, Draug has 169.... OG Marth has 158 BST , dancing Lachesis has 157....

Guys, how many years it will be until we have dancing ranged flier with the BST of gen 1 armor (assuming the  game last that long) ? 

At this rate, a dancing bow/dagger flier would hit approximately that BST in Gen 7, while a dancing tome flier would hit it in Gen 8. If we keep getting a new gen each CYL, it could be as soon as two years from now, which I assume the game will still be around for.

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