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15 minutes ago, SockPuppet said:

On the unpopular opinion train, Alm is one of my favorite resplendent’s. I love his face and outfit!

I confess that I didn't like Alm's attire in the beginning, but now I like it a lot. It's not my favorite, but it's a very good one.

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I love Fairy Lucina in a nutshell but I agree she looks way too young.

Then again it's hard for me to hate the Fairy aesthetics. One of my favorite resplendent is Eirika, after all.

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13 hours ago, Sunwoo said:

I do have a general issue with the two fairy Resplendent Heroes released so far though, which I'm concerned will persist the more of those they release. The current fairies are two popular female lords who are being shoehorned into being "cute". Eirika's default pose looked like she had moeface, and Lucina gets chibified. It's a disservice to their characters to reduce them to just being cute. The sad thing is that fairies don't have to be limited to being cutesy, they could be sinister or dangerous if you portrayed them well. Like how Tharja could pull off a fairy Resplendent if they went with the angle of her being dangerous and unpredictable.

I actually think we can see that with the males too even if its to a lesser extend. 

Embla Alm was noted by many to have a babyface and Marth who came after him also looked a tad younger than he usually does. 

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15 hours ago, Sunwoo said:

The thing about Resplendent Lucina's art is that if this was a new character option from EOVI it would look perfectly fine, no real issues with it. But if you're trying to say that the character in question is Lucina, that's when I feel there are issues. It resembles Lucina, but feels more like she was inspired by Lucina rather than Lucina herself. I agree that I don't think it suits Lucina very well, but I will defend Himukai's art in a vacuum as still being good. Most of his EO work isn't bad and doesn't look THAT loli. His EO dudes are actually fine. Examples here.

I do have a general issue with the two fairy Resplendent Heroes released so far though, which I'm concerned will persist the more of those they release. The current fairies are two popular female lords who are being shoehorned into being "cute". Eirika's default pose looked like she had moeface, and Lucina gets chibified. It's a disservice to their characters to reduce them to just being cute. The sad thing is that fairies don't have to be limited to being cutesy, they could be sinister or dangerous if you portrayed them well. Like how Tharja could pull off a fairy Resplendent if they went with the angle of her being dangerous and unpredictable.

Besides, they're doing the obvious thing and only releasing female fairies, this makes me wonder if they will even do male fairy outfits or if they'll be treated as a joke for being in a "girly" outfit.

Lucina's Resplendent isn't as bad as Julia's though, those fucking eyes.

I read some time ago about the idea of making a Dokkalfar Niles, it would be kind of hilarious, but considering how... Well... He is... so... Him... he would actually fit xD

 

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15 hours ago, Arthur97 said:

Maybe it's not comparable...maybe she looks younger. 

 

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Seriously, just look at them side by side.

No one is arguing she doesn't look way younger. I'm just saying, there's a difference between an actual young Lucina and an art style that makes her look younger

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2 hours ago, silverserpent said:

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Not my best. I cringe at "Falchion", but weapon design has never been a strong suit of mine. I tried.

I like this take on her!

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I think the fairy theme needs to be toned down. It could look good if woven into a character's base outfit, but it needs to be subdued.

 

For Lucina, this could be more angular plating with leaf/vine detailing. It could be a butterfly embroidered into her scarf and a more wing-like cape design. But the overall design should look like classic Lucina.

 

Subtlety is king. Less is more. What we got looks overdone. I'll go one step further. It doesn't look like young Lucina. No. It doesn't even look like Fire Emblem.

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1 hour ago, Fabulously Olivier said:

It doesn't even look like Fire Emblem.

Well, if you just see the Book 4 OCs without any context, you would never guess they are from a Fire Emblem Game.

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1 minute ago, Diovani Bressan said:

Well, if you just see the Book 4 OCs without any context, you would never guess they are from a Fire Emblem Game.

Also true. This has been my issue with a lot of FEH OCs, starting with Book 2.

 

Surtr was the first and worst offender. He looks like a Megaman villain.

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9 hours ago, Etrurian emperor said:

I actually think we can see that with the males too even if its to a lesser extend. 

Embla Alm was noted by many to have a babyface and Marth who came after him also looked a tad younger than he usually does. 

Yeah, I did notice that some of the later Resplendent dudes have babyface as well. That said, I feel like the combination of babyface and fairy outfit hurts Lucina and Eirika more than Alm and Marth. Because Askr is the default "good guys" country, which fits Marth super well, while Alm is from one of the antagonist countries and that makes sense with how he's the prince of the antagonist country in his own land.

Also, both of their outfits look more serious than whatever Eirika is wearing. Like ... I think I've seen Eirika be compared to a pop star, which is pretty fitting. Lucina's actual outfit looks more serious than Eirika's so I can take her more seriously. Even when chibified.

Honestly, I think the last couple of Resplendent artwork just hasn't been really great. Whether it's babyface or just looking plain bad JULIA I've disliked more than I've liked. I think Hel looks okay for the most part, even if Robin's art looks similar to his default artist and I like Takumi's default art a little better than his Hel Resplendent.

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2 hours ago, Diovani Bressan said:

Well, if you just see the Book 4 OCs without any context, you would never guess they are from a Fire Emblem Game.

And, FEH's visual rendition of *picks first thing to pop in my head* Gunter doesn't look like they belong in a Fire Emblem game. Too much realism or whatever you call the direction it went in.

This gatcha doesn't exactly enforce strong rules on the hired artists. Dragalia during my brief stint before I concluded gatchas are soul-depleting grind and gambling highs & lows, was much more cohesive aesthetically between all its characters.

Not to say allowing artists to be very free is bad, although the artistic extremes may not appeal to everyone as a result. Merely, that it will result in situations akin to Minecraft in Smash, or Toon Link alongside Zant in Hyrule Warriors- Zelda's most cartoonish variant beside  Zelda's peak realism. They're weird, but again, the quality of the contrast is purely in the eye of the beholder.

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I don’t think there’s any merit in declaring an art style “not Fire Emblem”. You could say that about anything that doesn’t look like the NES games.

Critiquing Lucina drawn in EO style is one thing. But it’s simply wrong to say it doesn’t look like Lucina.

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On 11/11/2020 at 9:44 AM, Landmaster said:

No one is arguing she doesn't look way younger. I'm just saying, there's a difference between an actual young Lucina and an art style that makes her look younger

Well, yeah, the problem is that she looks way young while supposedly being the same Lucina. If it was another Lucina, then there wouldn't be as much of an issue. 

 

Overall, the outfit itself doesn't seem bad, it's pretty much all in the art which has the serious flaw of making her look like a child. 

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1 hour ago, Arthur97 said:

Well, yeah, the problem is that she looks way young while supposedly being the same Lucina. If it was another Lucina, then there wouldn't be as much of an issue. 

Yeah, and the murmurs that it was child pornography (or at least art that could be construed as such) that got this artist suspended from Twitter adds an extra creepy layer to this if there’s any truth to that.

Though to be honest, I’d still hate this art even if it was for an alt because her proportions are so fucked that she looks like a midget more than a child.

1 hour ago, Arthur97 said:

Overall, the outfit itself doesn't seem bad, it's pretty much all in the art which has the serious flaw of making her look like a child. 

Yeah, I have no problems with dream fairy theme or the outfit myself. There’s already plenty of Resplendent Lucina fan art (like the below), all of which look way better than what we’re actually getting:

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i may be one of the only ones that likes Lucina's new resplendent art, lul.  Did it take a bit for me to appreciate it, given it's more of a contrast? sure, but same thing with ninja!Zihark's art which is pretty different as well. It's pretty clear the artist's influenced by loli genre, which may not be everyone's cup of tea but those colors are some of my favorites ...

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17 hours ago, Tybrosion said:

Yeah, and the murmurs that it was child pornography (or at least art that could be construed as such) that got this artist suspended from Twitter adds an extra creepy layer to this if there’s any truth to that.

Though to be honest, I’d still hate this art even if it was for an alt because her proportions are so fucked that she looks like a midget more than a child.

Yeah, I have no problems with dream fairy theme or the outfit myself. There’s already plenty of Resplendent Lucina fan art (like the below), all of which look way better than what we’re actually getting:

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That first one looks really good. That's what a talented artist looks like, and that would actually be worth the asking price.

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20 hours ago, Tybrosion said:

Yeah, and the murmurs that it was child pornography (or at least art that could be construed as such) that got this artist suspended from Twitter adds an extra creepy layer to this if there’s any truth to that.

I don't know where that rumor started from but he's not banned https://twitter.com/nistick023 Although this account was made May 2020 so maybe he had another account before that was banned?

He does have a secondary account linked on his bio where he draws nsfw lolicon (honestly I'd go as far to say toddlercon but admittedly I don't know where the fine line is drawn between those two) so yeah I'll agree on that making young Lucina art creepy. And imo all his previous art creepy too. Such a shame I liked his art, especially that of the older characters which, ironically, is way better despite him being a hardcore lolicon. Too bad he hasn't shown that off for FEH.

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48 minutes ago, NegativeExponents- said:

I don't know where that rumor started from but he's not banned https://twitter.com/nistick023 Although this account was made May 2020 so maybe he had another account before that was banned?

He does have a secondary account linked on his bio where he draws nsfw lolicon (honestly I'd go as far to say toddlercon but admittedly I don't know where the fine line is drawn between those two) so yeah I'll agree on that making young Lucina art creepy. And imo all his previous art creepy too. Such a shame I liked his art, especially that of the older characters which, ironically, is way better despite him being a hardcore lolicon. Too bad he hasn't shown that off for FEH.

Sounds like a real pos.

 

If I had known any of that on the 10th, I would have canceled my FEH pass for this round.

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53 minutes ago, NegativeExponents- said:

He does have a secondary account linked on his bio where he draws nsfw lolicon (honestly I'd go as far to say toddlercon but admittedly I don't know where the fine line is drawn between those two) so yeah I'll agree on that making young Lucina art creepy. And imo all his previous art creepy too. Such a shame I liked his art, especially that of the older characters which, ironically, is way better despite him being a hardcore lolicon. Too bad he hasn't shown that off for FEH.

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I'll still stand by the majority of his EO artwork (some, like the younger female Necromancer, I will not defend), but yes, as a massive precaution, I hereby disown the artist themselves. I am ready to do that, serious sexual allegations demand one sever ties with the accused faster than the creation of a eunuch. Let them not get reputable commissions in the future, and ideally no commissions at all.

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Not that this should surprise anyone, but Dark Burdens won the poll and thus will get re-run in January.

The one that lost, though, was apparently Peony by a razor-thin margin (if this post on the FEH sub-reddit is correct, it lost third place to Dread Isle by about 139 votes). So, January's poll should be between the designated loser Dread Isle, Spendthrift Bow+, Mirabilis and Who Cares, and the "Get Your Spurn Here" banner.

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14 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Let them not get reputable commissions in the future, and ideally no commissions at all.

Eh I'd doubt that would stop him from being commissioned if it didn't stop him the first time. I mean, distasteful or not, it's not illegal unless it's real and there's a huge market for it so yeah.

10 minutes ago, Tybrosion said:

Not that this should surprise anyone, but Dark Burdens won the poll and thus will get re-run in January.

I was really hoping for Dread Isle after failing horribly for Nils but at this rate it'll be the last one to get rerun.

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Just now, NegativeExponents- said:

Eh I'd doubt that would stop him from being commissioned if it didn't stop him the first time. I mean, distasteful or not, it's not illegal unless it's real and there's a huge market for it so yeah.

Well, you never know if he'll eventually walk over the line into a prison cell. Best to separate oneself from liking the person before then. 

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