Arcanite Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: There are gachas with much worse summon rates, if we're being completely honest here. Summoner's War had near zero 5* base rates if I recall correctly? You are recalling correctly LOL my only 5 star on there was made naturally heh Summoner's War is Pay to Win heaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: Whom shall I give Vantage to? I gave Camus it. Should anyone else get it? Fast, hard-hitting squishies, Hector, and Takumi. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: There are gachas with much worse summon rates, if we're being completely honest here. Summoner's War had near zero 5* base rates if I recall correctly? im spoiled as fuck by bf rates lol and a contributing factor is that Fates is the kind of game i'd pull for the character instead of for the game. Not pulling my favs would suck(although my favorite servant didn't exist yet) Edited July 25, 2017 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I finally got a good number of the Lunatic Chain Challenges done. I got all the Paralogues done, and have all but the last two groups of chapters done now. That's where the chapters started getting really brutal, so we'll see how I fare going forward. I've only had to try again once so far, and that was mostly due to the first map in FE12's paralogue being a real bimp to beat without losing a unit. I've started using my Tempest team of Reinhardt, Boey, Alm, Azura to start Second team is either my Bridelia, Nino, Eirika, Ninian or Horse Emblem depending on the match-up going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kaden said: Fast, hard-hitting squishies, Hector, and Takumi. :p I DON'T HAVE HECTOR OR TAKUMI :( I feel like the fast, hard-hitting squishies should get Desperation. By that I mean Katarina, Linde, Nino. Hmm... any other ideas? I gave Nowi QR. Should she have Vantage instead? Edited July 25, 2017 by GuiltyLove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kaden said: Fast, hard-hitting squishies, Hector, and Takumi. :p Since when is Hector "squishy"? Edit: Oh snap I just didn't read this right heh My bad 1 hour ago, Rezzy said: I thought you hated whales I mean I do, but.... you're different. You're just an adorable little baby whale <3 Spoiler Yes, I still have this picture Edited July 25, 2017 by Oboro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
property of nuvelle Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 34 minutes ago, Rezzy said: I didn't know there was word about birthday rewards. I don't know how they'd know when your birthday is, though. It would be nice if there was, though. My birthday's in less than a week. It was a thought I had, and some other comment on youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, Soul~! said: 1) out of how many orbs should you technically achieve a *5 (according to odds and maths)? 2) how do .25's-50's even make close to any difference that people even consider it? Around one in every 15 pulls or so if you're pulling all 5 umbrellas each session. Better if you're pulling colors at favorable odds. Pulling only green from the Wyvern Knights banner would have been around one in 7 or 8 taking into account the times when there were no greens in the session. It doesn't really. It just makes people feel better. After 15 failed pulls, your odds of a pull being a 5-star character is 7.5%, which is a 32% chance that the next full session contains at least one 5-star. Compare that to 27% at base. In the long run, if you end pulling from a banner on a 5-star pull, you're only slightly better off than someone that lets a banner end without resetting their pity bonus (the more times you pull from a single banner on average, the less it matters). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, JSND said: and a contributing factor is that Fates is the kind of game i'd pull for the character instead of for the game. Not pulling my favs would suck(although my favorite servant didn't exist yet) Who's your favorite servant? Mine is Hassan but Martha and Asterios cut it close. Ever heard of D.O.T? I feel like I'm the only person who's played it. It got shut down almost two years ago though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 18 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: I DON'T HAVE HECTOR OR TAKUMI :( I feel like the fast, hard-hitting squishies should get Desperation. By that I mean Katarina, Linde, Nino. Hmm... any other ideas? I gave Nowi QR. Should she have Vantage instead? I dunno. It depends on what you want to do like you could run someone like Kagero with Vantage rather than Desperation or a -breaker and units who are fast, but not super fast could run Vantage instead of a different B-skill. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here with like 6 Lon'qu and not knowing who to give Vantage to. Maybe Sharena or maybe she should have Lancebreaker or Swordbreaker. Possibly Sonya, but she a -breaker might make more sense for her with 31 neutral speed. Decisions... Edit: I guess, also not fast, kind of slow units who aren't bulky for whatever reason could use Vantage decently too. Edited July 25, 2017 by Kaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Does anyone know if the Infernal Lloyd battle will be giving us an extra chance at Lloyd, in addition to the kill Lloyd with Sharena or whoever quest they'll have for two more Lloyds tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Kaden said: I dunno. It depends on what you want to do like you could run someone like Kagero with Vantage rather than Desperation or a -breaker and units who are fast, but not super fast could run Vantage instead of a different B-skill. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here with like 6 Lon'qu and not knowing who to give Vantage to. Maybe Sharena or maybe she should have Lancebreaker or Swordbreaker. Possibly Sonya, but she a -breaker might make more sense for her with 31 neutral speed. Decisions... Blah. I guess I will save Vantage fodder for now... I wish LnD 3 weren't locked to 5*! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Around one in every 15 pulls or so if you're pulling all 5 umbrellas each session. Better if you're pulling colors at favorable odds. Pulling only green from the Wyvern Knights banner would have been around one in 7 or 8 taking into account the times when there were no greens in the session. It doesn't really. It just makes people feel better. After 15 failed pulls, your odds of a pull being a 5-star character is 7.5%, which is a 32% chance that the next full session contains at least one 5-star. Compare that to 27% at base. In the long run, if you end pulling from a banner on a 5-star pull, you're only slightly better off than someone that lets a banner end without resetting their pity bonus (the more times you pull from a single banner on average, the less it matters). Ice Dragon to the rescue No, they're not umbrellas, they're little balls. <u> So, like you've explained before, chances are far better than they seem. That would explain why "P2W" have ridiculous amount of "luck". Didn't think of simply adding everything up into the equation (aka, colors mixing on a summoning session). Goes to say I should actually start saving up orbs, instead of ramming as soon as I get my first 5... Just now, MrSmokestack said: Who's your favorite servant? EMIYA is the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rezzy said: Does anyone know if the Infernal Lloyd battle will be giving us an extra chance at Lloyd, in addition to the kill Lloyd with Sharena or whoever quest they'll have for two more Lloyds tomorrow? How many Lloyds do you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Just now, Soul~! said: How many Lloyds do you want. As many as it takes to feed my entire army Iceberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: As many as it takes to feed my entire army Iceberg. Would you like some Niles and Shannas to help with that? :p Seriously, though, I have a lot of 3* Niles who just exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Just now, Kaden said: Would you like some Niles and Shannas to help with that? :p Seriously, though, I have a lot of 3* Niles who just exist. SHANNA IS FOR DESPERATION WHAT ARE YOU DOING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 minute ago, GuiltyLove said: SHANNA IS FOR DESPERATION WHAT ARE YOU DOING seriously wtf Iceberg isn't even that uncommon with Niles existing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Just now, Soul~! said: seriously wtf Iceberg isn't even that uncommon with Niles existing. WE ACTUALLY AGREED ON SOMETHING? STOP THE PRESSES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmokestack Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kaden said: Would you like some Niles and Shannas to help with that? :p Shanna is for Desperation wyd 1 minute ago, Soul~! said: seriously wtf Iceberg isn't even that uncommon with Niles existing. But pulling for skill fodder costs orbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkhead Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I mean yeah you can't trust someone that thinks Catria would look good in a wedding dress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rezzy said: Does anyone know if the Infernal Lloyd battle will be giving us an extra chance at Lloyd, in addition to the kill Lloyd with Sharena or whoever quest they'll have for two more Lloyds tomorrow? Based on how things work in this game, it's basically guaranteed that clearing Infernal will reward an additional 4-star Lloyd and the usual feathers. It's also basically guaranteed that there will be an additional Lloyd from quests. So there should be two new copies of Lloyd available for players who completed everything the first time. 6 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: Who's your favorite servant? Mine is Hassan but Martha and Asterios cut it close. The correct answer is Illya. Chloe is an acceptable answer as well. Also any of the Lillies and class-changed servants, like Lancer Medusa and Caster Cu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Soul~! said: I mean yeah you can't trust someone that thinks Catria would look good in a wedding dress EVERYONE LOOKS GOOD IN A WEDDING DRESS EXCEPT 4 U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GuiltyLove said: SHANNA IS FOR DESPERATION WHAT ARE YOU DOING I'D USE LEO FOR SAVAGE BLOW! SOMETIMES, DESPERATION LEADS TO THIS! :p 3 minutes ago, MrSmokestack said: Shanna is for Desperation wyd You can still use her for Iceberg like using Karel for Reprisal or Athena for Sword Experience. It's not like Iceberg is common and it's not like anyone wants Wo Dao. :p Edited July 25, 2017 by Kaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuiltyLove Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Just now, Kaden said: I'D USE LEO FOR SAVAGE BLOW! SOMETIMES DESPERATION LEADS TO THIS! I killed Leo for QR3 for Catria :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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