Rhubarb Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 So, for the most current weapon refinery upgrade folks, I'm currently wondering which is worth upgrading. I have Leo, but his upgrade doesn't seem very good I also have Soren (I do not have an Eirika currently, but I assume she'd be the best). My question is whether or not giving Soren that upgrade is worth it or if I should just keep my resources for other future upgrades. Is the refined Gronnowl effect and/or base Atk - 7 effect worth a Gronnblade or Refined Rex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, OmNomNom said: So, for the most current weapon refinery upgrade folks, I'm currently wondering which is worth upgrading. I have Leo, but his upgrade doesn't seem very good I also have Soren (I do not have an Eirika currently, but I assume she'd be the best). My question is whether or not giving Soren that upgrade is worth it or if I should just keep my resources for other future upgrades. Is the refined Gronnowl effect and/or base Atk - 7 effect worth a Gronnblade or Refined Rex? Leo is pretty much one of the best magic tanks in the game (alongside Sigurd and Jeorge) due to Brynhildr's refinement with the only real downside being that he can't tank Reinhardt without Deflect Magic. Soren's new Wind's Brand is available to you without the need for refinement (all of the new weapons are in the characters' default skill inventories upon promotion to 5-star rarity), so you can test it out for yourself and see if the effect suits your play style. Only the Litrowl effect actually requires refinement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I’m trying to decide who to promote to five stars next. I’ve narrowed down my options to these units: +atk/-hp Raven Lyon Fallen!Takumi Legion Michalis Valter Xander F!Robin +atk/-def Sakura So yeah, which one should I promote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 44 minutes ago, Poimagic said: I’m trying to decide who to promote to five stars next. I’ve narrowed down my options to these units: +atk/-hp Raven Lyon Fallen!Takumi Legion Michalis Valter Xander F!Robin +atk/-def Sakura So yeah, which one should I promote? Playing with @Rafiel's Aria's Raven makes me want to build one up. Xander is great if you're running Horse Emblem. He's been part of my core Arena team for months now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 @Poimagic Like @Rezzy wrote, Raven became cool if you want to do the refinement. Xander is a must, still one of the best free units. While I also like Valter and Michalis (my first 5* promotion), I must say Lyon is very useful and cheap to build if you don't have a red TA/Raven mage yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poimagic Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 @mampfoid @Rezzy Got it. Think I’ll keep Raven first. After that, I’ll probably go Legion as he is unit I’ve ment to promote for a long time, but I never got around to doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raltis Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) Piggybacking off of the Raven discussion. I decided to make him my latest 5* promote without knowing his IVs. By a happy coincidence, he turned out to be +Attack -Defense. Is his build as simple as I imagine it would be by giving him the special Basilikos upgrade (Life and Death 3) along with a proper Life and Death 3 in his A slot to just have him slaughter anyone who looks at him funny?* *The fact that this happens to cover everyone else except Lucius and maaaaaaybe Priscilla is beside the point of course. Edited March 12, 2018 by Raltis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zangetsu Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 19 hours ago, Ice Dragon said: Darkness is most commonly associated with earth, the opposite of the sky that brings us light. Given the knowledge granted to us by modern science, electricity is best represented in the Western classical elements by fire. Well I already gave Grima, earth & Hector, fire, but it's still nice to hear the logic is still sound so thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 4 hours ago, Raltis said: Piggybacking off of the Raven discussion. I decided to make him my latest 5* promote without knowing his IVs. By a happy coincidence, he turned out to be +Attack -Defense. Is his build as simple as I imagine it would be by giving him the special Basilikos upgrade (Life and Death 3) along with a proper Life and Death 3 in his A slot to just have him slaughter anyone who looks at him funny?* *The fact that this happens to cover everyone else except Lucius and maaaaaaybe Priscilla is beside the point of course. I would go with Fury on his A slot since it is cheaper and it makes Raven less susceptible to being killed when eating his first counter to get into Desperation range, especially since yours is -Def. I would only go with Life and Death if Raven has another way of reducing his HP without eating a counter, since eating a counter is pretty risky if you do not have enough bulk to stomach it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Thanks Ice Dragon for the response. I've decided to do just that - test out Soren's a bit before ultimately deciding. I've also decided to give Leo a try as well if I do not fancy Soren's much. I also would like to piggy back a bit (sorry guys!). On the discussion of Grimaldi as a friend list lead, are people choosing to still go Armored Boots + SB + BF build or staying with a VF + Armored Boots? I'd ideally like to go for the mixed phase BF+Breath, but that would mean Armored Boots taking up a seal slot instead of say Quick Riposte or QP. How are you guys accomplishing this if you're using Bold Fighter? Is not having QR/QP a breaker for the mixed phase build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameslove001 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Has anyone composed a guide that is organized kind like this: Best speed sword, Best defense sword, best attack sword, Best defense sword, good combo res/speed sword. Basically a guide for which units might be best on a particular map. In particular I am interested in that for bows. I see a lot of people getting good clears with Setsuna and wondering if it is her speed or attack that the person is banking on. I know that a lot of people have gone to a lot of effort to give you every possible stat this game can offer and was looking for that type of organization so I know how to make quick changes to someone comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, jameslove001 said: Has anyone composed a guide that is organized kind like this: Best speed sword, Best defense sword, best attack sword, Best defense sword, good combo res/speed sword. Basically a guide for which units might be best on a particular map. In particular I am interested in that for bows. I see a lot of people getting good clears with Setsuna and wondering if it is her speed or attack that the person is banking on. I know that a lot of people have gone to a lot of effort to give you every possible stat this game can offer and was looking for that type of organization so I know how to make quick changes to someone comparable. Are you looking for a stats table with an organization function? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameslove001 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Thanks @XRay that is pretty close to what I am looking for. I just wish there were weapon specific ones like the Tier Lists. Something where you can easily see each specific weapon so you can find interchangeable units when you don’t have someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zangetsu Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 So I don't anything about these 2 characters but is there any reason for Lute & Tailtiu to be associate with earth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astellius Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, jameslove001 said: Thanks @XRay that is pretty close to what I am looking for. I just wish there were weapon specific ones like the Tier Lists. Something where you can easily see each specific weapon so you can find interchangeable units when you don’t have someone else. You can sort the list by the unit's weapon type, if that's what you mean. There's a drop-down menu at the top that has "Weapon Type," which lets you view only units of the selected weapon type. That's useful if you want to, for example, compare the stats of only bow units. You can then sort the list by the specific stat you want to highlight. For Setsuna in particular, she depends on her speed, since her attack stat is quite mediocre. Summer Gaius has the closest stat spread to her, with 30 Atk/37 Spd (compared to her 28/37 spread). Edit: Also, I personally prefer the Gamepress table to the Gamepedia one, but either one works. Edited March 12, 2018 by Astellius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyvernQueen Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) What can I do with a +spd/-hp Leo? His refinement doesn't make building him any easier, but ideally I'd like to keep his prf since it's a prf. I'm thinking of putting him in a Horse Emblem team, but I'm not really sure what he wants. Edit: Also is an extra S!Corrin worth more as Fortify Fliers or swift strike fodder? I know Caeda exists, but I've never pulled her and swift strike doesn't seem all that amazing. Edited March 13, 2018 by WyvernQueen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRay Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, WyvernQueen said: What can I do with a +spd/-hp Leo? His refinement doesn't make building him any easier, but ideally I'd like to keep his prf since it's a prf. I'm thinking of putting him in a Horse Emblem team, but I'm not really sure what he wants. Edit: Also is an extra S!Corrin worth more as Fortify Fliers or swift strike fodder? I know Caeda exists, but I've never pulled her and swift strike doesn't seem all that amazing. If you want to optimize Brynhildr, Leo wants [+Atk/Def/Res, -Spd]. +Spd is essentially useless since he is not going to be doubled anyways with Brynhildr and he is unlikely to do any doubling himself without Quick Riposte. -HP hurts his bulk a bit, but as long as you are careful around blue mages (or avoid them entirely), -HP does not really matter too much. You can run Rauðrblade, but I would not recommend it since SM!Eirika got Player Phase covered and she comes with a pretty good exclusive tome. You might want to check out his other builds here for ideas. I want to say Swift Strike since it is rare, but I cannot think of a situation currently where it performs really well. Swift Strike (along with Steady Blow and Bracing Blow) can be used on ranged units to act as Wings of Mercy beacon on defense teams, but that is a pretty limited niche. I would personally save her for now since they might release the skill on an unlimited unit (or have a new skill mechanic that utilizes that stat spread), but foddering her for Fortify Flier is fine if you really need it now and you are not afraid of regrets. Edited March 13, 2018 by XRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameslove001 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Astellius said: You can sort the list by the unit's weapon type, if that's what you mean. There's a drop-down menu at the top that has "Weapon Type," which lets you view only units of the selected weapon type. That's useful if you want to, for example, compare the stats of only bow units. You can then sort the list by the specific stat you want to highlight. For Setsuna in particular, she depends on her speed, since her attack stat is quite mediocre. Summer Gaius has the closest stat spread to her, with 30 Atk/37 Spd (compared to her 28/37 spread). Edit: Also, I personally prefer the Gamepress table to the Gamepedia one, but either one works. The Gamepress table is exactly what I am looking for. I am not the greatest strategist, so when I go to YouTube for help with a map, I don't always know how to make the proper adjustments. And since we all have different units, this will be SUPER helpful in figuring out who I might be able to plug in someone else's stead. Thank you so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameslove001 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 As far as summoning new characters, are you saving up for the Special Event next week? I don't have a ton, but it seems like that will be the way to go. Any ideas or datamines concerning that specific summoning event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, jameslove001 said: As far as summoning new characters, are you saving up for the Special Event next week? I don't have a ton, but it seems like that will be the way to go. Any ideas or datamines concerning that specific summoning event? Most likely, new set of spring/Easter-themed characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWeaver Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Anyone have advice for what to do with a +SPD -DEF Female Morgan? Besides throwing her away of course, she already isn't planned for my main team and there's no way I'm gunning for another one so I decided to try and make do with what I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Bill Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, SoulWeaver said: Anyone have advice for what to do with a +SPD -DEF Female Morgan? Besides throwing her away of course, she already isn't planned for my main team and there's no way I'm gunning for another one so I decided to try and make do with what I got. Those are probably perfect ivs for her, besides plus Attack. If you have another flier honing her, she’ll do great! Give her Darting blow, (or Swift Sparrow if you’ve got access to it) and she’ll do great with a Blárblade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWeaver Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Will Bill said: Those are probably perfect ivs for her, besides plus Attack. If you have another flier honing her, she’ll do great! Give her Darting blow, (or Swift Sparrow if you’ve got access to it) and she’ll do great with a Blárblade! The problem is her DEF is a superbane, meaning she has a lower BST than your average Female Morgan, and her SPD is supposedly low enough that a Boon won't actually help her very much. I'll give Blade a try, though, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFrigid Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, SoulWeaver said: Anyone have advice for what to do with a +SPD -DEF Female Morgan? Besides throwing her away of course, she already isn't planned for my main team and there's no way I'm gunning for another one so I decided to try and make do with what I got. Her default kit is perfectly serviceable as a mage check. Toss in Reposition and the QR deal if it’s not tied down to someone else and she’s good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raltis Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 For what it's worth, I just had my F! Morgan completely no-sell a Death Blow 3 Reinhardt. She still gets downed by Bow!Lyn, but that's a flyer for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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