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10 minutes ago, XRay said:

I have given Short Bow, Shining Bow, and Slaying Bow Brazen Atk/Spd 4, and compared that to Brave Bow with Life and Death 3, and Brave Bow still performs better.

That's because you're starting at 1 HP and using an outdated list of opponents.

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6 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said:

That's because you're starting at 1 HP and using an outdated list of opponents.

Running them at full HP is only going to make every bow look like crap. An outdated list can be made somewhat updated by just giving Atk/Def combat buff to enemies. Unless there is a specific set of enemies in mind you want to test, old units and new units are not that much different outside of having higher stats, and that can be easily accounted for tuning stats up or down. With Atk/Def +6 combat buffs on enemies, Shining Bow does do better compared to others but its performance is absolute shit. There is no reason we need to measure performance at full HP unless the player really has difficulty getting into Desperation range.

Challengers List: Same as above, except Challengers have full HP, Brazen Atk/Spd 4 are replaced with Swift Sparrow, and Sacred Seals are replaced with Darting Blow. Enemies have Atk/Def +6 combat buffs.

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CHALLENGER LIST  
Rolf (MH) (5*+10)  
Weapon: Brave Bow+  
Special: Luna  
A: Life and Death 3  
B: Desperation 3  
C: Savage Blow 3  
S: Darting Blow 3  
  
Rolf (MH) (5*+10)  
Weapon: Short Bow+  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Swift Sparrow 3  
B: Desperation 3  
C: Savage Blow 3  
S: Darting Blow 3  
Upgrade Path: 2  
  
Rolf (MH) (5*+10)  
Weapon: Slaying Bow+  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Swift Sparrow 3  
B: Desperation 3  
C: Savage Blow 3  
S: Darting Blow 3  
Upgrade Path: 2  
  
Rolf (MH) (5*+10)  
Weapon: Shining Bow+  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Swift Sparrow 3  
B: Desperation 3  
C: Savage Blow 3  
S: Darting Blow 3  
Upgrade Path: 2  

And Brave effect being superior is not exclusive to bows. As far as I know, at max investment, Brave Weapons are so good that the only raw-damage Desperation nuke that should be running their exclusive Weapon is Laevatein. I have also included Fir to show that it does not matter what your Atk stat is, if you are pimping out your nuke for raw damage, you run Brave Weapons.

I have not tested lances and axes, but I am pretty sure they all prefer Brave Weapons too over their own exclusive Weapons. Outside of Laevatein, the developers have yet to release anything as powerful as Brave Weapons for the classic three melee Weapons. Almost nothing rivals Brave Weapons in terms of damage output. Even Luna Arc may eventually be abandoned in favor of Brave Bow if tier 5 A skills gets released. The only thing that shits on Brave Weapons are Blade Weapons.

Challenger List: Against Hard List. Both sides +10 with 6/6/6/6 buffs. Challengers at 1 HP.

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CHALLENGER LIST  
Laevatein (5*+10 +spd)  
Weapon: Laevatein  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Laevatein (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Brave Sword+  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Mareeta (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Mareeta's Sword  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Mareeta (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Brave Sword+  
Special: Luna  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Karla (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Vassal's Blade  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Karla (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Brave Sword+  
Special: Luna  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Mia (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Resolute Blade  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
Upgrade Path: 5  
  
Mia (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Brave Sword+  
Special: Luna  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Mareeta (DW) (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Shadow Sword  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Wrath 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Mareeta (DW) (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Brave Sword+  
Special: Luna  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Celica (Brave) (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Royal Sword  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Swift Sparrow 3  
B: Double Lion  
S: Sturdy Blow 2  
  
Celica (Brave) (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Brave Sword+  
Special: Luna  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
  
Fir (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Nameless Blade  
Special: Moonbow  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  
Upgrade Path: 5  
  
Fir (5*+10 +atk)  
Weapon: Brave Sword+  
Special: Luna  
A: Brazen Atk Spd 4  
B: Desperation 3  
S: Brazen Atk Spd 3  

 

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