mampfoid Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alkaid said: Man, AA has been so uncooperative. I scored 5,056 somehow last week in normal arena, yet I couldn't get RNG on my side to get a streak of more than 5,036 before calling it quits for AA. I ended up dropped down to around the 5,500's in rank. Thanks to my water blessings kicking in this week, I managed a 5,076 AA score and 5,096 in regular arena. Hopefully that might keep me in the top 5k AA and maybe even stay in tier 20 too. I'm 1,225th of 3,500 places in T20 though, so maybe that still might not be enough.. But also last week was water season? If 5,036 was not enough last week for top 5k, then I'll better give it another try in the weekend. But I don't think much more than 5,050 is possible for me currently. I managed to stay in top 5k for 4 weeks now with scores of 5,036, 5036, 5,046 and 5,050. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaid Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, mampfoid said: But also last week was water season? If 5,036 was not enough last week for top 5k, then I'll better give it another try in the weekend. But I don't think much more than 5,050 is possible for me currently. I managed to stay in top 5k for 4 weeks now with scores of 5,036, 5036, 5,046 and 5,050. It was wind/earth last season, despite Fjorm as a bonus unit. I can't seem to get into the top 5k of AA anymore without the help of blessings. On non-water weeks, I usually get around 5,030-ish, which hasn't been making the cut. Not really sure how blessings alone made such a monster jump this week, but maybe my matches were luckier than usual too. I guess I really need some more merges in my team to get a higher raw score, but it's still been slow going there aside from from Camilla being done now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, mampfoid said: But also last week was water season? Last week was wind+earth. Meanwhile, I decided to get my arena assault run done early, before the inevitable Reinhardts flood the defence teams yes again. And I did it on my first try. I like completing arena assault. I like completing arena assault, not I like completing arena assault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexmender Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I just finished my runs. On normal arena I got a score of 4956 with 1 death which should be enough to go back to tier 20 but if the water season boost inflates the scores too much then I'll try to do a deathless run. AA took me like 3 tries because I wasn't paying attention but I finally got my deathless run with 5,034 points. I don't have much hopes about staying in the top 5k with this but at least I broke 5k here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 @Vaximillian it's never complete. @Alkaid I don't have merged legendary units, so blessings won't help me in AA. I'm waiting for another Cherche copy to switch from 4*+10 to 5*+5. Also Cordelia (+6) or BH!Roy (+5) copies would help, even Shiro (+5) since he is my AA point slave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, mampfoid said: @Vaximillian it's never complete. @Alkaid I don't have merged legendary units, so blessings won't help me in AA. I'm waiting for another Cherche copy to switch from 4*+10 to 5*+5. Also Cordelia (+6) or BH!Roy (+5) copies would help, even Shiro (+5) since he is my AA point slave. It's worth noting that blessings are worth enough that high merges on the legendary aren't absolutely necessary. For frame of reference, when I was running my Arena core with three blessings and a +1 Fjorm, it took until 5*+7 with a similarly SP-optimal skill set before my Draug was actually outscoring her during water seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi said: It's worth noting that blessings are worth enough that high merges on the legendary aren't absolutely necessary. For frame of reference, when I was running my Arena core with three blessings and a +1 Fjorm, it took until 5*+7 with a similarly SP-optimal skill set before my Draug was actually outscoring her during water seasons. My Fjorm is +0 with her default skills, while Shiro is +5 with the most expensive skills (including Prf and Aether). I guess I will keep him (and my core of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 55 minutes ago, mampfoid said: My Fjorm is +0 with her default skills, while Shiro is +5 with the most expensive skills (including Prf and Aether). I guess I will keep him (and my core of course). Well, my Fjorm had the default kit, too. It might be close, but yours might be worth slightly more with the blessings. For comparison: Fjorm +1 (+Spd/-HP) - default kit, Reposition, Panic Ploy 3 Seal (at the time, since QR wasn't out and nothing else I had upgraded was worth 240) Draug +6 - Wo Dao+Def, Rally Def/Res, Aether, Mirror Strike 2, Poison Strike 3, Spur Def/Res 2, Panic Ploy 3 Seal Despite all that, Fjorm was worth a bit more and she was able to get away with running Reposition over the dual rally. The next merge to Draug put him just slightly over what Fjorm provided. When considering the gap between Shiro and Fjorm, also note that my Draug was down that much despite also toting armour BST (granted, Shiro is only one bin behind him, but it's still notable). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pullofthebush Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'm always too frightened before new units arrive, so I did Arena early again this week and broke my past record yet again. An arena score of 5110 feels pretty unreal, but it's water season and Fjorm is a bonus. Luck in AA was also finally on my side and I got past 5066 and made it to 5088. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi said: Well, my Fjorm had the default kit, too. It might be close, but yours might be worth slightly more with the blessings. For comparison: Fjorm +1 (+Spd/-HP) - default kit, Reposition, Panic Ploy 3 Seal (at the time, since QR wasn't out and nothing else I had upgraded was worth 240) Draug +6 - Wo Dao+Def, Rally Def/Res, Aether, Mirror Strike 2, Poison Strike 3, Spur Def/Res 2, Panic Ploy 3 Seal Despite all that, Fjorm was worth a bit more and she was able to get away with running Reposition over the dual rally. The next merge to Draug put him just slightly over what Fjorm provided. When considering the gap between Shiro and Fjorm, also note that my Draug was down that much despite also toting armour BST (granted, Shiro is only one bin behind him, but it's still notable). Hm, I might consider that route if I can't stay in top 5k anymore (or if I ever have merged legendaries). Thing is, my core units have different blessings, only Cherche got a water blessing. I don't want to build 3 cores if three units, but I also can't change the blessings every week. Btw: I think Shiros Prf closes the gap to Draug a little, the rest of their skills should have equal SP cost. Thanks for all the info, I really have underestimated the blessings effect on the score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 No problem. Figured I'd share the info since I initially underestimated blessings as well until I looked at the numbers using the two and went, "Waaaaait a second." Yeah, I get how that is with not wanting to build multiple teams, which is why I just decided to go with water for my core and ignore everything else. It's too much work to build an earth team +10, I don't have Ephriam and Gunnthra is worth garbage points due to being ranged cavalry, so a wind team would be 100% last priority. I had entertained the possibility of being persuaded to another element down the line, but decided to stick with water. Spd is a pretty good bonus stat, but more to the point, water season is the place where the highest suddenly point spike can be expected due to everyone getting Fjorm for free and Water Blessings have being the most freely distributed out of all the blessing rewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkaid Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, mampfoid said: I don't have merged legendary units, so blessings won't help me in AA. I'm waiting for another Cherche copy to switch from 4*+10 to 5*+5. Also Cordelia (+6) or BH!Roy (+5) copies would help, even Shiro (+5) since he is my AA point slave. Like Kuroi said, during water seasons the blessings make a pretty big difference even with a +0 base kit Fjorm. I put water on my 3 core units so I get a good buff from it when it works. I could have mixed the blessings, but I don't think 1 active per season would really matter enough for me, so might as go all in on water seasons. That said, I have no merged up 4th unit, so Fjorm's actually my highest scoring 4th slot for AA/as a bonus unit anyway. I just have to tough it out on other weeks with raw score. I think my biggest scoring issue is I still haven't gotten anything better than my +1 Ayra for the red unit in my core 3. Edited April 11, 2018 by Alkaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackc2 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 For the first time, since the arena changes I am seeing numbers over 700 again, I might actually make tier 20 this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Running the exact same team, one with blessings active (running just the one Legendary hero) and one without makes for a 6 point difference per fight, for an expected gain of 42 points over the course of a deathless run. It's huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I don't know why, but since the last time I checked, my Defense Team got 5 wins! In the last weeks I seldom got more than 3 wins at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pullofthebush Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I only got one defense win since yesterday, but feels a lot better than having to wait until Saturday like last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexmender Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 3 defense wins already! Seems my team is doing better this time. Let's see if Vengeful Fighter is going to grant me more wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 My team of Marth+1, Micaiah+1, Fjorm+1, and Myrrh (there must always be one to break the naming pattern) already got two defence wins on the very first day. Couldn’t I have got one of these the day prior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilda Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 got 3 def wins with my standart team and 2 with mybonus team: Fjorm Raven Karel Axezura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFM Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Normally I get 3 or 4 def wins in a week (score of 604), but already at 5 (highest is 610). I love water seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Chao Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 (edited) I usually like AA, but I absolutely loathe it when I die on the third map. It means replaying two maps again for no rewards, and it just feels boring and tedious then. I've sent feedback in asking if there was some way we could use crests to redo the mode for rewards, but it doesn't look like it's been listened to. I did my complete run on Tues, at least, so I've got the highest score I can. I was worried that my team of Bunny Alfonse, Xander, Reinhardt and Inigo wouldn't cut it this week for getting into Tier 19 in normal Arena, but I managed another run with Fjorm, Zelgius, The Christmas Robin and M!Grima that seems a lot more promising :) Edited April 13, 2018 by Cute Chao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFM Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Slowly approaching the magic number "5,000" with a score of 4,982. Back to tier 20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsilas Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 3:30 AM, Cute Chao said: I usually like AA, but I absolutely loathe it when I die on the third map. It means replaying two maps again for no rewards, and it just feels boring and tedious then. I've sent feedback in asking if there was some way we could use crests to redo the mode for rewards, but it doesn't look like it's been listened to. I did my complete run on Tues, at least, so I've got the highest score I can. I was worried that my team of Bunny Alfonse, Xander, Reinhardt and Inigo wouldn't cut it this week for getting into Tier 19 in normal Arena, but I managed another run with Fjorm, Zelgius, The Christmas Robin and M!Grima that seems a lot more promising :) I just do the easy 1 unit only method for doing the daily AA rewards Also wow, no defense wins at all this week for me for both accounts. Maps aren't good for armours, so I switched a few things around but still nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 (edited) Me: “Tharja isn’t supposed to double Myrrh!” Also me, looking at Myrrh’s kit: “Oh”. Tharja then killed them all. (I get it, Hectors don’t rain from the sky, but still, there must have been a way to play around her native breath) Edited April 16, 2018 by Vaximillian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 25 minutes ago, Vaximillian said: there must have been a way to play around her native breath Stare up at the sky and hope a Hector falls out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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