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Managed to clutch out 2 defense wins yesterday. My standard Ayra/Cordelia+Guidance/PA Azura/bonus(Hinoka) team didn't manage to pull any wins at all after like 4 days. So I switched out Azura for Camilla to stack my highest merged units. I've had a hard time getting defenses lately, with usually no more than 1-2. With the new system tonight I hope I won't be kissing my defenses goodbye..

Also, brave Soleil is the best meme.

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Apparently changing my Micaiah's build from enemy phase to player phase was a good decision, because I can't remember the last time I managed to get four defense wins in a week! 

It's also looking like I'll make it to tier 19 which'll be nice, even if I'll be right back down to tier 18 next week.

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Score report:

  • Tier 20 score of 5098 (F!Kana +Res/-Spd) - #3027 (/5756)
  • AA score of 5194 - #1177

Got lamely low-balled on both runs, though I fixed the regular Arena run. Initially, I got saddled with 5070, which is well below if I'd rolled average very time (726*7 for 5082). Spent a trio of Dueling Crests for the first time in a while fishing for higher scores. It didn't take long, since my average made it pretty easy to beat the garbage I was initially given. Just to be sure, though, I spent a couple swords to make sure it was above average. Might as well while I was there. Really didn't want to gamble another AA streak, though. It was quite disappointing because despite merging Sheena up to +9 and then adding two Drive skills for another 80 SP, I got low-balled even harder than last week. I guess the one upside is that since we're in water season, even a 5212 likely wasn't going to say in top 1000, so the bad score doesn't really matter. Still discouraging from a "scout what this does to my score" perspective, though.

The gacha mocked me this week, as when I was trying to get that last Sheena, it threw two F!Kanas at me in the same session. They were, of course, -Atk and -Spd. Ended up speed leveling the -Spd one and patching up that deficiency with Lancebreaker. She replaced Ryoma as my bonus unit because, even though Ryoma has DC, he's redundant with A!Tiki (she runs TA3, so she can 1v4 a full green team—something she did this week, in fact). Plus, F!Kana, scores the same, is borderline invincible when attacked and synergizes better with Tiki and Nowi. Didn't merge the -Atk one into her because I'm not ready to commit a merge to either of those banes and I might want to give someone Goad Dragons.

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Had a pretty good run this season. I finally got Lucius to +10, so my score got boosted a little bit. And this meant that for AA, I could run four 5 star +10 characters for the first time. (This was after I had already gotten my weekly score.) But when I tried to get a better score, I saw some match-ups worth 740+. Wow. 

My final score for Arena was 5084 and for AA it was 5102. Got 10 defense wins. Hoping that I can improve my score a little it next week. I am a little apprehensive about the reward changes, but here's hoping they're still pretty decent. 

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Offense score of 5122 (T20) remains in T20, combining with a defense score of 618 for max rewards.

Teams faced (streak):

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I ended up giving Lilina a slot on a team with Celica, Tana, and Julia, since it's been a while since those three have seen the Arena. Lilina did well for herself...honestly part of the decision to field that team was to float her as a candidate to replace Celica on that core. I'm still debating.

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Season 66 Results:

Score: 5,086
Defense: 309
Rank: Tier 20 --> 20

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Changes from last week:

-Shanna got two merges (+7 to +9)
-Caeda got Galeforce
-Caeda got Spd Ploy 3

I did two arena runs this week -- once it became clear today that my old 5,072 wasn't going to cut it, I decided to spend my weekly merge early and try again for a safer score.  This cycle of bonus units is rather underwhelming for me, so I've had to up the ante a little with equipping more expensive skills on to my core to compensate.  I need more Narcian copies. :(

This will also be the last arena season before the big update in a couple days.  No more 5,000+ scores, and getting defense wins might prove a bit more challenging. 

Arena Assault:

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Rank: 3,993

Previous Season Results:

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Season 12: 4,678 | 284 | 25,513
Season 13: 4,740 | 0 | 19,082
Season 14: 4,794 | 289 | 6,331
Season 15: 4,820 | 576 | 15 --> 17
Season 16: 4,788 | 568 | 17 --> 16
Season 17: 4,719 | 568 | 16 --> 17
Season 18: 4,776 | 0 | 17 --> 18
Season 19: 4,780 | 0 | 18 --> 17
Season 20: 4,796 | 578 | 17 --> 18
Season 21: 4,806 | 594 | 18 --> 19
Season 22: 4,792 | 560 | 19 --> 18
Season 23: 4,836 | 288 | 18 --> 19
Season 24: 4,828 | 288 | 19 --> 20
Season 25: 4,838 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 26: 4,822 | 578 | 19 --> 20
Season 27: 4,808 | 580 | 20 -->19
Season 28: 4,792 | 580 | 19 --> 18
Season 29: 4,830 | 582 | 18 --> 19
Season 30: 4,822 | 582 | 19 --> 20
Season 31: 4,806 | 584 | 20 --> 19
Season 32: 4,820 | 584 | 19 --> 20
Season 33: 4,812 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 34: 4,836 | 582 | 19 --> 20
Season 35: 4,822 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 36: 4,838 | 578 | 19 --> 20
Season 37: 4,788 | 580 | 20 --> 19
Season 38: 4,854 | 580 | 19 --> 20
Season 39: 4,830 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 40: 4,908 | 0 | 19 --> 20
Season 41: 4,920 | 580 | 20 --> 19
Season 42: 4,922 | 580 | 19 --> 20
Season 43: 4,914 | 582 | 20 --> 19
Season 44: 4,966 | 582 | 19 --> 20
Season 45: 5,006 | 600 | 20 --> 20
Season 46: 5,016 | 600 | 20 --> 20
Season 47: 4,976 | 596 | 20 --> 19
Season 48: 4,972 | 596 | 19 --> 20
Season 49: 4,988 | 600 | 20 --> 19
Season 50: 4,984 | 598 | 19 --> 20
Season 51: 5012 | 604 | 20 --> 19
Season 52: 4,990 | 598 | 19 --> 20
Season 53: 4,848 | 600 | 20 --> 19
Season 54: 4,994 | 602 | 19 --> 20
Season 55: 5,002 | 600 | 20 --> 19
Season 56: 5,050 | 606 | 19 --> 20
Season 57: 5,016 | 608 | 20 --> 19
Season 58: 5,014 | 608 | 19 --> 20
Season 59: 5,052 | 608 | 20 --> 20
Season 60: 5,064 | 612 | 20 --> 20
Season 61: 5,066 | 618 | 20 --> 20
Season 62: 5,088 | 614 | 20 --> 20
Season 63: 5,100 | 610 | 20 --> 20
Season 64: 5,070 | 610 | 20 --> 20
Season 65: 5,068 | 618 | 20 --> 20

 

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Went down to tier 19 as expected so nothing new there.

On AA I ended with a rank of 5,040....urghh that one stings because I was so close to top 5k. 

I got around 7 def wins this week which means that my team is doing pretty nicely so no need to change it.

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Yikes, ended up rank 19669 in AA, that was a close call. Almost paid for leading out with an unbuilt Zelgius instead of BK.

Regular arena was demotion week, nothing interesting to report.

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5 hours ago, Alexmender said:

On AA I ended with a rank of 5,040....urghh that one stings because I was so close to top 5k. 

I ended as 5,484th with a score of 5,054, which means no chance for top 5k in Fjorm weeks for me. 

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@mampfoid @Alexmender @Rafiel's Aria @mcsilas Perhaps it's not a bit achievement for most, but I finally did it.

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I've never broken 5000 before. It's water season sure but that Nino isn't even carrying a blessing. And when she and Matt get the rest of their merges my score will only get higher. Slowly creeping into the higher ups. It's exciting.

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Wow. Like you said, guys, I dropped to tier 19 last week since my points aren't enough... and now, I'm ranking up again to tier 20... without the points due to blessings ! 4924 points, I was in the bottom of the tier who'll rank up, but I did it ! Team bellow :

 

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Robin is merge to +7 ! +10 dream is not far away now !

Kinshi Hinoka was the focus unit, and her Flier replacement seems to do a lot of problem. Got three defense wins this week !

And a little Hall of Interesting Units :

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Klein getting some defensive love. 36/37 on defensives stats are not bad.

 

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46 minutes ago, Zeo said:

@mampfoid @Alexmender @Rafiel's Aria @mcsilas Perhaps it's not a bit achievement for most, but I finally did it.

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I've never broken 5000 before. It's water season sure but that Nino isn't even carrying a blessing. And when she and Matt get the rest of their merges my score will only get higher. Slowly creeping into the higher ups. It's exciting.

OMG! That's amazing! Congrats! Tbh, breaking 5000 is crazy awesome. I was floored when I did it the first time. Hopefully you can only get higher from there!

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4 hours ago, Zeo said:

I've never broken 5000 before. It's water season sure but that Nino isn't even carrying a blessing. And when she and Matt get the rest of their merges my score will only get higher. Slowly creeping into the higher ups. It's exciting.

You will never break 5000 ever again, Lol. Perfect time to do it with the Arena changes coming tonight.

Congrats on joining the 5k club, I remember when I did for the first time.

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@Zeo Congrats on entering the 5k (it's more impressive considering this may as well be the last week we'll be able to do that). 

I wonder if the next tier will be 4k+ club now that we'll only do 5 battles instead of 7.

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4000 would require an insane 800 points/match. I don't think space whale teams even get remotely that high. For comparison, my current Arena team scores 726 per match on average, so 3620 would be the new 5082. Even if I could import my AA team, which scores 744 per match, I'd only hit 3720. And while it's not all that impressive next to the power creeped teams of whales, I'm skeptical that even the hardest minmaxing would give them a 56-point advantage over me (I wanted to check this on my usual calculator site, but it appears to be down).

Proportionally speaking, 3571 would be the new 5000.

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10 minutes ago, Kuroi Tsubasa Tenshi said:

4000 would require an insane 800 points/match. I don't think space whale teams even get remotely that high. For comparison, my current Arena team scores 726 per match on average, so 3620 would be the new 5082. Even if I could import my AA team, which scores 744 per match, I'd only hit 3720. And while it's not all that impressive next to the power creeped teams of whales, I'm skeptical that even the hardest minmaxing would give them a 56-point advantage over me (I wanted to check this on my usual calculator site, but it appears to be down).

Proportionally speaking, 3571 would be the new 5000.

My bad, I forgot that 800 matches do not exist. I tried simulating a space whale team and the best it got was 3830 at 766 per match (it had the 3 powercreep armors Zelgius, Hardin and M!Grima all with max points spreads, all with Earth blessings and F!Grima as the Legendary hero because of her 2 300 SP skills). 

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5 hours ago, Alexmender said:

My bad, I forgot that 800 matches do not exist. I tried simulating a space whale team and the best it got was 3830 at 766 per match (it had the 3 powercreep armors Zelgius, Hardin and M!Grima all with max points spreads, all with Earth blessings and F!Grima as the Legendary hero because of her 2 300 SP skills). 

Dragonskin and ???

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24 minutes ago, Hawk King said:

Dragonskin and ???

Expiration but I just remembered it is a Legendary Weapon so it is worth 400 SP instead of 300...

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Well, can't say I really know what's different about new Arena... having the TT stat boost is nice though, since the unit I have to use won't be quite as much baggage as they could potentially be. In this case, I was using Siegbert, so while he wasn't baggage per say, I won't say I was looking forward to using him, but he did his job nicely... even though most of what he did was reposition everyone... but he is a horsie, so he did it well.

I suppose overall more feathers and one extra orb for less time spent? I guess it won't be such a headache now though. Usually when I lose an arena streak, it's on or after the 5th battle anyways.

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