geozeldadude Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 i'm guessing someone's already looked into this. aside from not getting the betters skills, etc., in terms of the number stats how many 4*+ merges would it take to be roughly equivalent to the same character as a regular 5*? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxachronc Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 I think around +5 or +6 without counting ATK, since usually at 5* you gain access to a new Weapon skill that makes the difference in ATK even wider from a 4*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geozeldadude Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 i haven't looked, but from what i recall there are at least some characters that don't have a new 5* attack. +5 or 6 merge isn't that bad actually. it might be worth going that route if you have a lot of extras hanging around. i already have like 4 matthews. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 A 4-star at level 40 is approximately 2 points lower in every stat compared to a 5-star at level 40. It takes 5 merges to gain 2 points in each stat. The 5-star weapon is 3-5 points of Atk higher than the 4-star weapon it upgrades from. You won't be able to make up for the missed Atk (you can get at most 2 more points of Atk from merges), but additional merges can eventually give you 2 points in every other stat. You obviously won't be able to equivalently make up for the loss of 5-star only skills. 23 minutes ago, geozeldadude said: i haven't looked, but from what i recall there are at least some characters that don't have a new 5* attack. +5 or 6 merge isn't that bad actually. it might be worth going that route if you have a lot of extras hanging around. i already have like 4 matthews. :p Every 5-star character has a new weapon because every 4-star weapon has a 5-star version with a "+" appended to the end of its name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geozeldadude Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share Posted February 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: Every 5-star character has a new weapon because every 4-star weapon has a 5-star version with a "+" appended to the end of its name. ah, okay. i was thinking of tiki in particular b/c i was remembering she had an attack called fire breath+, but she actually upgrades to Lightning Breath and Lightning Breath+. but i guess in terms of support characters it's maybe still worth doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Ice Dragon said: A 4-star at level 40 is approximately 2 points lower in every stat compared to a 5-star at level 40. It takes 5 merges to gain 2 points in each stat. The 5-star weapon is 3-5 points of Atk higher than the 4-star weapon it upgrades from. You won't be able to make up for the missed Atk (you can get at most 2 more points of Atk from merges), but additional merges can eventually give you 2 points in every other stat. You obviously won't be able to equivalently make up for the loss of 5-star only skills. Every 5-star character has a new weapon because every 4-star weapon has a 5-star version with a "+" appended to the end of its name. Even healers? I know everyone else does, with most of them being pretty good (Olivia well and truly doesn't care what's in her hands, her job is to dance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 7 hours ago, eclipse said: Even healers? I know everyone else does, with most of them being pretty good (Olivia well and truly doesn't care what's in her hands, her job is to dance). Not staff-users since they don't really use the same weapon upgrade system as the other weapon types. If I recall correctly, staves get their second weapon at 3 stars and their third staff at 4 stars, so the only benefits of getting a 5-star staff-user is the 1 or 2 extra points to each stat and any 5-star skill unlocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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