Ryu Yuki Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 It has come to my attention that we're suddenly getting an influx of several brand new skills; some perhaps competitively viable, and others making life more convenient for you. What is everyone's opinion on these new skills, and do you think they're worth inheriting on other units or not? New Skills: Xander/Camilla Live For Honor / Live For Bounty: If the unit survives, you get x1.5 normal badges from a Training Tower map. (Doesn't stack with similar effects) Chrom Axe Experience: If unit survives, all axe-users on team get 2x EXP. (Again, doesn't stack with similar effects)Attack/Def +2: Grants Atk/Def +2 Lucina Swift Sparrow: If unit initiates combat , unit granted Atk/Spd +4 during battle. New Weapons: Carrot Lance+: Mt 13Green Egg+: Mt 11Carrot Axe+: Mt 13Blue Egg+: Mt 11 All have the same "If unit initiates attack, unit recovers 4 HP after the battle". Personally speaking, Swift Sparrow looks very promising, and the weapons might be useful on tanky units. Anyone else have plans for these skills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANRYU Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Chrom and Lucina's skills seem like the most useful, obviously. The Nohr royals' crest-farming skills are cute... ....and I wish I had anything better to say about that. Until the day when they let us trade those for feathers, those skills are pretty useless. Most of us have more badges than we have enough feathers to do anything with anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_n Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I suspect Camilla's skill is a typo and is supposed to be for crystals & shards. The icon for it depicts shards while Xander's depicts badges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANRYU Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Just now, r_n said: I suspect Camilla's skill is a typo and is supposed to be for crystals & shards. The icon for it depicts shards while Xander's depicts badges. I hope so. That'd be substantially more useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu Yuki Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, BANRYU said: Chrom and Lucina's skills seem like the most useful, obviously. The Nohr royals' crest-farming skills are cute... ....and I wish I had anything better to say about that. Until the day when they let us trade those for feathers, those skills are pretty useless. Most of us have more badges than we have enough feathers to do anything with anyway. It does feel like having a feather-generating version of those skills would be really nice. At the very least though, I do feel it makes Chrom kind of worth rolling even if they all turn out to be competitively worthless, since extra EXP would save you a fair amount of Stamina in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sire Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 If Camilla is for crystals and shards, then she definitely useful for Tower Dailies. Also, Chrom's Axe Experience is nice to have. Xander's though for Badges? Useless. As for the actual stuff though... Attack/Def +2: Grants Atk/Def +2 [Honestly a straight up upgrade if it is in the "A" slot passive, since it grants a total of +4 stats than +3. This skill definitely has its uses on more defensive characters if not running Defiants and the like.] Swift Sparrow: If unit initiates combat , unit granted Atk/Spd +4 during battle. [A union between Darting Blow and Death Blow. Due to the way the game calculates doubling, I suspect Swift Sparrow will become the best thing ever while the previous Blows are a thing of the past. The only reason to run the "pure" build is dependant on the character's SPD and now many units that character can double or not. Slow Characters will likely still rely on Death Blow while fast ones may opt for Darting Blow to gain that extra edge. Also, this may end up being the new Life and Death for non-Brave users. Since L&D is mostly taken for the offensive anyways, losing 1 ATT & SPD on the offensive is nothing compared to losing 5 DEF & RES at all times. Sure, the character will not be able to hit hard when on the defensive, but they are not meant to do that in the first place. Braves may still keep L&D to make up for the SPD loss from the Brave Weapon, unless that character is super sonic to begin with, like Hana.] New Weapons: The closest comparison is being +1 MT to Armorslayer & Gem Weapons but with a Heal Effect. Thing is, 4 HP is not really that substantial, especially if battles only last like 4 turns (so a max of 16 HP healed if attacking every turn). It has a niche that the number crunchers can figure out, but even then, I bet other weapons are superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 In Japanese, Camilla's skill description is Quote 豊穣の喜び 生存時、修練の塔クリア報酬の結晶入手量１．５倍 which translates to Quote Joy of Bountiful Harvest If this unit survives, crystals rewarded for clearing the Training Tower increased 1.5 times So yes, it's a typo in the English version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu Yuki Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: In Japanese, Camilla's skill description is which translates to So yes, it's a typo in the English version. Oh seriously? Then it might actually be worth it, considering how rare Crystal(s) tend to be. I get shards 3/4 of the time, even though I make it a point to have my first battle of the day a deathless run on Tenth Stratum for the karma. A 50% boost to the few times I do get crystals would certainly be welcome... Edited March 30, 2017 by Ryu Yuki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuraiFede Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Swift Sparrow seems very interesting, ATK/SPD +4 without lose bulk it's a great addition IMHO. But pulling an Easter Lucina will be hard, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Swift Sparrow? Is that REAL? FORREAL? I NEED HER But seriously, she's definitely the best of this banner, and if you don't feel like grinding skills for the other peeps, she's probably the only one worth getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eruno Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) yes, swift sparrow is an interesting skill + Lucina has the Blue Egg and seal res so definitely going to put her on my main team, just pulled Lucina and Camilla a few hours ago, wish i got Chrom or Xander though. Didn't expect Camilla to be a Magic-Flier unit Edited March 30, 2017 by Eruno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okigen Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Does swift sparrow stack with other skills like spur and hone? I pulled a Camilla right in the first pull in the new banner, but the 2 subsequent pulls are really rubbish. (Except maybe -def Effie which I can feed to Hector). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcirrot Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 hour ago, KuraiFede said: Swift Sparrow seems very interesting, ATK/SPD +4 without lose bulk it's a great addition IMHO. But pulling an Easter Lucina will be hard, so... I got her in like 40 orbs and got Spring Chrom in about 80. I'm hoping that the appearance rates are higher than posted because my bunny Camilla has forsaken me. Although bunny Lucina is the cutest thing EVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eruno Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, kcirrot said: Although bunny Lucina is the cutest thing EVER! Couldn't agree more with you there :3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, OKigen said: Does swift sparrow stack with other skills like spur and hone? I pulled a Camilla right in the first pull in the new banner, but the 2 subsequent pulls are really rubbish. (Except maybe -def Effie which I can feed to Hector). It definitely stacks with Hone, but iirc skills like Death Blow and Spur Atk don't stack, because they're both in-battle buffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogon Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: It definitely stacks with Hone, but iirc skills like Death Blow and Spur Atk don't stack, because they're both in-battle buffs. There is no such thing as "in-battle buffs", buffs do not stack (hone, rally, defiant and etc). In battle bonuses do (Durandal, Blows, Spurs and etc). Edited March 30, 2017 by Clogon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Clogon said: There is no such thing as "in-battle buffs", buffs do not stack. In battle bonuses do. When I said "buffs", I meant the bonuses (literally one different word). But okay, so they do stack. Good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogon Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: When I said "buffs", I meant the bonuses (literally one different word). But okay, so they do stack. Good to know. "Buffs" in this game have a specific meaning. They last throughout the turn and boost -Blade Tomes. Your "one different word" refers to a completely different game mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okigen Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Clogon said: There is no such thing as "in-battle buffs", buffs do not stack (hone, rally, defiant and etc). In battle bonuses do (Durandal, Blows, Spurs and etc). Fantastic thanks. I will try to get her then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuraiFede Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 21 minutes ago, kcirrot said: I got her in like 40 orbs and got Spring Chrom in about 80. I'm hoping that the appearance rates are higher than posted because my bunny Camilla has forsaken me. Although bunny Lucina is the cutest thing EVER! 80 orbs...i have 40 right now XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Clogon said: "Buffs" in this game have a specific meaning. They last throughout the turn and boost -Blade Tomes. Your "one different word" refers to a completely different game mechanic. I tried to specify with the "in-battle" part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clogon Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) I want Lucina solely for the skill inheretance and collectible. She is similar to Cadea for the blue mages. Fast but really low ATK. At least she is faster and stronger than Odin which is great! edit: 3 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: I tried to specify with the "in-battle" part. Sorry, I guess I am a bit cranky due to lack of sleep and a stressful day at work. I apologize. Edited March 30, 2017 by Clogon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenomata Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ugh... took me 160 orbs to get Bunny Lucina... 160! I got 5 star Kagero and Ninian long before I got Bunny Lucina. Least I got a bunch of skill inheritance fodder on the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Lucina is absolutely nuts The rest of them are okayish. Anyone know if their stuff is inheritable? It says carrot lance+ and blue egg+ so that's what I'm led to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eruno Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Lucina is absolutely nuts The rest of them are okayish. Anyone know if their stuff is inheritable? It says carrot lance+ and blue egg+ so that's what I'm led to believe. tried to inherit Lucina's blue egg to Ursula and it didn't say weapon type limitation there and yes, i didn't dare to tap Confirm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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