Silith13 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I know I'm a bit obsessed about him. But Doesn't Draugh just counter this entire enemy lineup unless Navarre has an armourslayer? Which would be super uncaracteristic of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaximillian Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Silith13 said: But Doesn't Draugh just counter this entire enemy lineup unless Navarre has an armourslayer? Which would be super uncaracteristic of him. There is probably a hammerman among the enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Silith13 said: I know I'm a bit obsessed about him. But Doesn't Draugh just counter this entire enemy lineup unless Navarre has an armourslayer? Which would be super uncaracteristic of him. Green axe has a hammer if the direct video is the actual map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stewart Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hey, a focus with Kagero! I might get a shot at pulling her! And Effie focus gets me a shot at her again. I have a 4* Effie, but She has a -Atk nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskedAmpharos Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Robert of Normandy said: Hey, a focus with Kagero! I might get a shot at pulling her! And Effie focus gets me a shot at her again. I have a 4* Effie, but She has a -Atk nature. I'm so conflicted as to what banner to pull on. I have a 5* Effie already, but she's +Spd, -Atk, so I really want to try for a better nature. But at the same time I really want to pull on the wyvern banner for 5* Cherche and 5* Brave Axe+ fodder. I only have so many orbs though D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lushen Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Looks easy. I think the best entry point is the far right side. Just get someone to kill the dagger unit in one turn (brave bow, for example) and the healer will attack you which is an easy kill. Then you just have 3 left and they're all going to get stuck in a tree line with only one ranged unit left... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I expect the thiefs to have the anti-infantry dagger making entry there really hard without daggerbreaker or the new Camilla who can counterattack at range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuke Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Silith13 said: I expect the thiefs to have the anti-infantry dagger making entry there really hard without daggerbreaker or the new Camilla who can counterattack at range. Just Narcian is more than enough. Pull back if Navarre approach. Cherche/Minerva/Camilla is probably overkill. Then have Kagero and olivia pull over to get rid of annoying pests. Probably a filler (Olivia/Atacker/Healer) as a final draw. Palla is probably the best. Edited March 30, 2017 by Ryuke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith13 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Subaki can fly around not entering the range of the armour and laugh his ass off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuke Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 @Silith13 Genius So... [free] unit battle (And assuming they dont move to attack) Subaki fly around to prepare against top thief. Narcian fly around to prepare against bottom thief. Narcian and Subaki (hit and ... maybe kill?) (Have Subaki and Narcian tank a defensive hit... I dont think its an issue) Then bring Kagero up and Olivia. And for free unit.. you can probably have Subaki and Narcian finish the map... really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Can somebody please upload the stats? Please? ;-; I'm dyin' over here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiran Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) On 3/30/2017 at 2:22 PM, Arcanite said: Can somebody please upload the stats? Please? ;-; I'm dyin' over here! I'm assuming that its going to be the same stats as the previous GHB. The sword cav in the Ursula battle has the same stats as the Micahlis cav. The infantry enemies have the same stats in the narcian/robin battles as well. Though this is not certain and merely speculation. Based on this theory: (with Navarre's stats taken from someone who hacked the game) Navarre: Killing edge+ (Blazing Wind, partially charged at 3l)HP - 42Atk - 39Spd - 37Def - 23Res - 28Skills: Desperation 3, Threaten Speed 3 Axe: Hammer+ (no special)HP - 52Atk - 43Spd - 31Def - 30Res - 23Skills: Unknown Thief (Right): Rogue Dagger+ (unknown special charged at 2)HP - 44Atk - 35Spd - 39Def - 14Res - 32Skills: Unknown Thief (Left): Silver Dagger+ (unknown special charged at 2)HP - 44Atk - 38Spd - 39Def - 14Res - 32Skills: Unknown Healer: Panic (unknown special charged at 1)Unknown stats and skills Edited April 3, 2017 by Kiran Navarre's stats are off. The grand hero always has boosted stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Kiran said: Ephraim gets beaten by Sharena in terms of utility. Lucina is arguably the best sword user in game. Lucina isn't the best sword after inheritance, not when she can't slay blue dragons anymore. 7 hours ago, Ryuke said: Even sharena can beat Ephraim. @Kiran I think you guys need to see my Ephraim writeup as Sharena is definitely not better that Ephraim anymore. Everything else is a fair point though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuxSpes Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 If the map shown in the first post and the stats posted by Kiran turn out to be actual GHB, I figured out a potential strategy that would allow my Sanaki to sweep the map in 3 turn with the help of Azura, Ninian and Nino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuke Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Korath88 said: Lucina isn't the best sword after inheritance, not when she can't slay blue dragons anymore. I think you guys need to see my Ephraim writeup as Sharena is definitely not better that Ephraim anymore. Everything else is a fair point though. Yeah ... everyone is swordbreaking their nowi. I dont want to be that guy but... I would love to. clear to at least post where you post your writeup (IE: which topic?) I figured Ephraim needs a +spd or not a -spd buff... which is mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ryuke said: Yeah ... everyone is swordbreaking their nowi. I dont want to be that guy but... I would love to. clear to at least post where you post your writeup (IE: which topic?) I figured Ephraim needs a +spd or not a -spd buff... which is mine. https://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?/topic/70033-skill-inheritance-discussion/&page=34 Scroll down the page. Summary of relevant points: Can abuse triangle adept better due to higher Atk and def, sword/lancebreaker ignores speed matchups, and can also play buff support better due to Siegmund. He can run the same support set as Eirika while simultaneously being able to frontline. Sharena never runs lancebreaker, so lancebreaker Ephraim easily ORKOs her. This is going off topic though, so I'm not going to argue about this here any longer. Edited March 31, 2017 by Korath88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonlordsd Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 With all the forests, this map seems like the perfect place to use the new Camilla. If the opponents are all infantry, the ai would have a really hard time countering her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mewyeon Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I think I'll skip on the new focus banner for fighting Navarre, though I'll prolly end up summoning from there anyway out of desperation to get better general units :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suichimo Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 12 hours ago, Silith13 said: I know I'm a bit obsessed about him. But Doesn't Draugh just counter this entire enemy lineup unless Navarre has an armourslayer? Which would be super uncaracteristic of him. Well, I need to train up a set of armors anyway... 12 hours ago, Vaximillian said: There is probably a hammerman among the enemies. 12 hours ago, Kiran said: Green axe has a hammer if the direct video is the actual map. So, what you're saying is give him a spare Svalinn's Shield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Kiran said: I'm assuming that its going to be the same stats as the previous GHB. The sword cav in the Ursula battle has the same stats as the Micahlis cav. The infantry enemies have the same stats in the narcian/robin battles as well. Though this is not certain and merely speculation. Based on this theory: (with Navarre's stats taken from someone who hacked the game) Navarre: Killing edge+ (Blazing Wind, partially charged at 3l)HP - 42Atk - 39Spd - 37Def - 23Res - 28Skills: Desperation 3, Threaten Speed 3 Axe: Hammer+ (no special)HP - 52Atk - 43Spd - 31Def - 30Res - 23Skills: Unknown Thief (Right): Rogue Dagger+ (unknown special charged at 2)HP - 44Atk - 35Spd - 39Def - 14Res - 32Skills: Unknown Thief (Left): Silver Dagger+ (unknown special charged at 2)HP - 44Atk - 38Spd - 39Def - 14Res - 32Skills: Unknown Healer: Panic (unknown special charged at 1)Unknown stats and skills Thank goodness! @Vaximillian be a champ, and copy paste this to your post so it wont get lost in the seas. Looks like these daggers do have mad high speed and resistance Trivial Trivial. The hammer is literally small potatoes though XD Edited March 31, 2017 by Arcanite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geek Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Sounds to me like I should be able to send my +DEF F!Corrin in there, have her kill Navarre and debuff the hell out of everyone and then have the rest of my team come to sweep up the mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, The Geek said: Sounds to me like I should be able to send my +DEF F!Corrin in there, have her kill Navarre and debuff the hell out of everyone and then have the rest of my team come to sweep up the mess. Cavalry units seem to be a major key here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levin's Scarf Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Cavalry units seem to be a major key here. Too bad the thieves have such a high res. Reinhardt would have mopped the floor with them otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuke Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 This looks too easy. Then again its technically the first GHB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ryuke said: This looks too easy. Then again its technically the first GHB. It's cause we're doing it for a useless unit. Just like female robin Edited March 31, 2017 by Arcanite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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