Vaximillian Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 @Tybrosion, I think it’s Priscilla. Lachesis vs. Elise started with almost a 3× lead by Elise, whereas Priscilla vs. Elise started with a 2× lead. Not much idea, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Solunar said: There's something I can't seem to wrap my head around. Say you're increasing at a rate of 100 million per hour on votes for a team. For calculation purposes, let's just say nobody has the character. So if you go minimum vote which is 100P, it's safe to say there's about 1 million people voting for that side. If everybody smacks the x100 (10,000P) on the flags, how does the score not increase by x100 and turn into an increase of (10,000 mil/10 bil). I know there isn't 1 million ppl voting for a side (I actually have no idea what the numbers are), but arguably, if the rate of Elise is 500 mil an hour, if they all used their flags x100 or x200, shouldn't that sky rocket their score? Please tell me what I'm missing here. Am I doing some math horribly wrong? Or are there people on each team spending their flags randomly each hour. There are a lot of stupid people who just spend as many flags as they can every hour. After the first hour, the top 50 are all tied with 44,000 points (400 flags spent) and after every hour the top scores are still filled with people who spent the max # of flags every hour. By the time the later multipliers come around, thousands of people have already spent all of their flags. And then there are those who just happen to miss it, or fail to do 2 battles per hour. Of all they players of this game only maybe 10% check internet forum boards and really learn all of the ins and outs to the game. But yeah, theoretically, both sides should have been able to do 10 billion + with their last bonus hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizzard of soz Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 though Elise definitely deserves the win, i kinda wish Priscilla or one of the less populars would've won because then maybe IS would abolish this rendition of the multiplier system. idk they are pretty good at listening to the community anyway so even without an upset hopefully they'll try some more changes again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybrosion Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Well, my estimation that Priscilla wouldn't be leading by this point turned out to be incorrect. The poor girl is literally clinging to the lead by a hair with only a difference of about 2,771,897 (Elise gained on her by about 171,185,309). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I can't really rag on the multipliers when they haven't given anyone a win yet. The outcomes have all been decided by the number of people on each team. I'd like to see the whole system shift a little more to your performance in battle, possibly a scored thing like Tempest but perhaps with different parameters. Defending your leader's unit in unique maps would be cool too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, wizzard of soz said: though Elise definitely deserves the win, i kinda wish Priscilla or one of the less populars would've won because then maybe IS would abolish this rendition of the multiplier system. idk they are pretty good at listening to the community anyway so even without an upset hopefully they'll try some more changes again. It changes almost every time, so don't expect it to stick around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 They've added new stuff to the gauntlets every time, but they haven't taken anything away yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Congrats Team Elise. In the end we weren't able to hold the lead. 3 minutes ago, Johann said: I can't really rag on the multipliers when they haven't given anyone a win yet. The outcomes have all been decided by the number of people on each team. I'd like to see the whole system shift a little more to your performance in battle, possibly a scored thing like Tempest but perhaps with different parameters. Defending your leader's unit in unique maps would be cool too. That would just alienate people. As it is, the voting gauntlet is an easy distraction that anyone can do with minimal effort. Honestly, the favorite should win. It may not have made a difference this time, but this current multiplier system will eventually cause upsets in future gauntlets. There were a lot of really close calls in this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordIvy Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I honestly can't wait for the gauntlet to be over, not because I'm not enjoying the game mode or anything. I just really really want those feathers so I can get the next promotion on my list over and done with! This next hour and a half is crawling by! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizzard of soz Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 not only could it cause an upset, but it ended up discouraging people from playing and spending flags for fear of triggering a multiplier for the opposing team. when it gets to that point, i don't think it's a good mechanic.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Overall, I think the multiplier has been a positive element. People of the "no multiplier" camp complain about the possibility of a less popular candidate winning but so far it hasn't happened. What the multiplier has done is close the gap and make things more involved than it would be without it. Maybe Priscilla could have pulled ahead with the right timing, maybe not. The point is, uncertainty is an essential component in a competetive event. Had it been absolutely certain that Elise would win (instead of just highly probable), the event would be completely devoid of tension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafiel's Aria Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Oh well. Team Priscilla put up a good fight. It's not looking too hot for us. If we had managed to trigger the multiplier one more time, we might have actually done it. (Even so, Elise probably deserves to win since she is the more popular character objectively speaking.) But I still feel like a winner. Even without the winner's feathers, I'll be racking in about 4900 feathers for this round. Over 10k feathers just for this event alone. I'm loving it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 There needs to be like, a score decay or something to deter people from not playing. People would just choose to not play so that the other team doesn't get a multiplier, while the losing team also doesn't play so they get the multiplier faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korath88 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 So 3 times out of 4 now I've chosen the runner up as my first choice. Team Ephraim, Minerva and now Priscilla. No regrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 39 minutes ago, Hawk King said: That would just alienate people. As it is, the voting gauntlet is an easy distraction that anyone can do with minimal effort. Cuz it's so much fun as it is, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Just now, Johann said: Cuz it's so much fun as it is, right? Yeah, lots of people like it. 10,000+ free feathers is fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: There needs to be like, a score decay or something to deter people from not playing. Yup! And all the people who are actually busy with Life get messed up! Edited July 3, 2017 by Arcanite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageOfAnys Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 23 minutes ago, NekoKnight said: Overall, I think the multiplier has been a positive element. People of the "no multiplier" camp complain about the possibility of a less popular candidate winning but so far it hasn't happened. People that complain about the multiplier aren't all upset about a less popular character winning, hell, I'm one of them and I don't care if the less popular person wins. This is my problem: 35 minutes ago, wizzard of soz said: not only could it cause an upset, but it ended up discouraging people from playing and spending flags for fear of triggering a multiplier for the opposing team. when it gets to that point, i don't think it's a good mechanic.. Yeah sure it's just a dumb game, but it doesn't change the fact that people want to win. Not getting a chance to participate because that's what's best for the team at the end of the day isn't really fun, and while it won't harm my enjoyment of the game overall, it still sucks that what used to be a fun, monthly event just becomes me staring at the screen waiting until it's safe for me to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Hawk King said: Yeah, lots of people like it. 10,000+ free feathers is fun. Barring the results of voting rounds themselves, people are only excited for feathers. Everybody stops talking about the actual battles pretty fast, since they're repetitive and you can cheese 'em pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railgun Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 And so it has come to an end, Elise has surpassed us. At least we put up a good fight. Nice job Team Priscilla! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafiel's Aria Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Johann said: Cuz it's so much fun as it is, right? At the end of the day, the guantlet is as stressful as you make it. Opinions are opinions and whether or not like you or dislike a character doesn't hurt anyone or anything. A character's popularity has very little to do in the grand scheme of things. Whether or not Lucina wins by a landslide, barely wins because of the multiplier, or loses, there are still going to be a TON of people that love her (and also hate her). Same goes for any character. :3 Priscilla will always be my second or third fave. The mechanics of the gauntlet can certainly be improved upon, and IS has proven that the developers want to find a way to please the majority of people. Personally, I like this event because it doesn't take any extra stamina. I can still work on other quests and whatnot while it's going on. Meanwhile, the Tempest just ate away at my resources... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 5 minutes ago, Arcanite said: Yup! And all the people who are actually busy with Life get messed up! I actually didn't play much at all this Gauntlet lol. I'm not saying individual scores should decay, but the overall camp score should decrease or something if participation is low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanite Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Rafiel's Aria said: Meanwhile, the Tempest just ate away at my resources... If anything the tempest only gave me resources XD What did you lose in tempest? Maybe a few stamina potions but I was still able to get everything fine and I only used 4. I maxed out 3 merits during that time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roflolxp54 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It appears that there is no exception: whoever gets the lead first... wins the gauntlet matchup. Elise vs. Sakura is no exception... and Elise vs. Priscilla is no exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekoKnight Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 minute ago, SageOfAnys said: People that complain about the multiplier aren't all upset about a less popular character winning, hell, I'm one of them and I don't care if the less popular person wins. This is my problem: Yeah sure it's just a dumb game, but it doesn't change the fact that people want to win. Not getting a chance to participate because that's what's best for the team at the end of the day isn't really fun, and while it won't harm my enjoyment of the game overall, it still sucks that what used to be a fun, monthly event just becomes me staring at the screen waiting until it's safe for me to play. Not all but many dislike it just out of principle. "The Voting Gaunlet should be a straight popularity contest" is a frequently voiced sentiment. I don't know about you but I'm still able to use all my flags. I do hope for a multiplier but if there isn't one, I plan around having enough time to use them. If multipliers are a factor, there is some strategy in choosing when to throw flags down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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