Jotari Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ottservia said: Well that depends on what you mean by nuance. By the definition I pose(and one that you seem to agree with) in that nuance is basically how all the little things connect to create a greater whole. That is something that can be proven and is objective. No it's not. Because one person might be of the opinion that all the little things connect while someone else might be of the opinion that they don't. The existence of the little things does not prove the existence of the connections. The connections comes from perceptive, which is a lenses that is viewed through experience, exposure and personal standards. 11 minutes ago, Ottservia said: Whatever the case, the messages, themes, and ideas found in any given story and how they’re explored is something that which you can prove. What you can’t prove is if someone will take anything away from that be it emotionally or whatever and that is my point. We've had that conversation before, in which I posited that the themes of Shadows of Valentia (which I backed up with evidence) was a male power fantasy glorifying violence. So no, themes, messages and ideas are not objective either. They are derived. At best you can say they're objective only by asking the author directly what they are and having them confirmed. Edited May 27, 2020 by Jotari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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