LoboKD001 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 should be around 45 mins later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Motendra Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Captain Karnage said: Is it starting? what time is 14:30? that would be 1: 30 EST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomalocaris Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Anacybele said: By that logic, the healers sisters shouldn't be playable either. Azura should be playable because she actually can fight, she's a main character, and she has relationships with the other main Fates characters. There's ZERO reason for her to not be playable. I mean, not ZERO reason. The reasons I gave are legitimate aside from the healer snafu. More practically, I just feel like if she were going to be playable, they'd have revealed her by now with the rest of the Fates folk, especially since they released a Fates character trailer that feels fairly finalized. So assuming she's not in, I'm just trying to see and understand the reason for her potential exclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolvir Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Anomalocaris said: I mean, not ZERO reason. The reasons I gave are legitimate aside from the healer snafu. More practically, I just feel like if she were going to be playable, they'd have revealed her by now with the rest of the Fates folk, especially since they released a Fates character trailer that feels fairly finalized. So assuming she's not in, I'm just trying to see and understand the reason for her potential exclusion. The only thing I can think of is if she was thrown in with Valla. Since the two families were split by country instead of route, it could fit considering she is from neither. It would be a little spoilery, but I don't think they aren't afraid of doing that. Edited September 21, 2017 by Tolvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboKD001 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tolvir said: The only thing I can think of is if she was thrown in with Valla. Since the two families were split by country instead of route, it could fit considering she is from neither. It would be a little spoilery, but I don't think they aren't afraid of doing that. they already spoiled conquest ending with takumi so i wont be surprised that there's more spoilers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lau Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Guys, remind me again when it starts UK time. Is it 6:30am? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboKD001 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Lau said: Guys, remind me again when it starts UK time. Is it 6:30am? should be yes. around 35 mins after this post has been posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick0807 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 38 minutes from now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lau Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Thank you :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Azura could be in the game, or not, but there's a third possibility. She could be held back as part of DLC 1. Reminds me of how MvC Infinite teases its first DLC characters in the base game's story mode. Oh my god do I get to play as Black Panther? Oh...bye then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomalocaris Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tolvir said: The only thing I can think of is if she was thrown in with Valla. Since the two families were split by country instead of route, it could fit considering she is from neither. It would be a little spoilery, but I don't think they aren't afraid of doing that. A Valla-focused DLC pack seems like the best bet for her getting in at this point. Maybe they're saving her for that. Edit: @Glennstavos Yeah, you beat me to it. She could appear during the story but not become playable until DLC. Though who else would that pack include, if anyone? Gunter? The Revelation-exclusive bosses? Edited September 21, 2017 by Anomalocaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolvir Posted September 21, 2017 Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Anomalocaris said: A Valla-focused DLC pack seems like the best bet for her getting in at this point. Maybe they're saving her for that. Edit: @Glennstavos Yeah, you beat me to it. She could appear during the story but not become playable until DLC. Though who else would that pack include, if anyone? Gunter? The Revelation-exclusive bosses? Gunter, Selena, Odin, and Laslow since they technically had an attachment to all of that. id be ok with it if it meant those 4 made it in too. Not the most desirable outcomes, but there really is no escaping that. Edited September 21, 2017 by Tolvir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moondrag Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Umm...isn't the only Valla characters, excluding Azura, either dead, evil, or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Karnage Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Moondrag said: Umm...isn't the only Valla characters, excluding Azura, either dead, evil, or both? nobody's from Valla like, there's nothing in Valla Valla wasn't explained well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboKD001 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Moondrag said: Umm...isn't the only Valla characters, excluding Azura, either dead, evil, or both? well ghirahim and zant are kinda both (though i hope ghira still lives) and theyre in hyrule warriors. given that they kinda have plot armor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Anomalocaris said: A Valla-focused DLC pack seems like the best bet for her getting in at this point. Maybe they're saving her for that. Edit: @Glennstavos Yeah, you beat me to it. She could appear during the story but not become playable until DLC. Though who else would that pack include, if anyone? Gunter? The Revelation-exclusive bosses? I was gonna say Garon, but I remember that Revelations is the game in which he gets eaten by the real final boss rather than facing you. Still he's my bet, even if the pack is explicitly Revelations themed. And then a goofy character from Fates, like Arthur or whatever. Gotta have a "You can play as THEM!?" in each DLC pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomalocaris Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tolvir said: Gunter, Selena, Odin, and Laslow since they technically had an attachment to all of that. id be ok with it if it meant those 4 made it in too if I am being honest. I forgot that the Awakening Trio could be considered Valla-connected. That'd be good, actually. On one condition; Selena's a Bow Knight. Not sure how it'd work, since she'd have to start out as a promoted class, but it's her canon promotion and she's our only hope for seeing it repped. (Bow Knight is one of my favorite classes...) 1 minute ago, Moondrag said: Umm...isn't the only Valla characters, excluding Azura, either dead, evil, or both? And? Playable villains are always a fun option, and death doesn't really matter here, else we can't play as Xander, Elise, Ryoma, and Taco Meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, Anomalocaris said: I mean, not ZERO reason. The reasons I gave are legitimate aside from the healer snafu. More practically, I just feel like if she were going to be playable, they'd have revealed her by now with the rest of the Fates folk, especially since they released a Fates character trailer that feels fairly finalized. So assuming she's not in, I'm just trying to see and understand the reason for her potential exclusion. And I can't see any good reason for her to be excluded due to what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YotsuMaboroshi Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 35 minutes ago, Anomalocaris said: The thing about Navarre is that there's really just no reason for him to be an NPC. He's a badass sword dude, you're not gonna include him without letting him fight. Azura, on the other hand, I feel might just be an NPC. She's an incredibly important character and I expect her to appear in the game in SOME capacity, but she was never important for her combat role; just her singing, exposition, and mysteriousness. Of course, if they want to make her playable the moveset potential is there, and the healers weren't really known for their combat roles much either. The main reason I can think of to exclude Azura is that they couldn't figure out a way to turn Sing/Dance into something that makes sense for a warriors game that they were satisfied with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Karnage Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I hope we get a new trailer, I'll be really dissapointed if I stayed up for nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lau Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Oooh, not long now~ I've been waiting for this, and now it's very nearly here! I feel like we'll get Anna and Celica today, but I'm hoping that they'll surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 minute ago, YotsuMaboroshi said: The main reason I can think of to exclude Azura is that they couldn't figure out a way to turn Sing/Dance into something that makes sense for a warriors game that they were satisfied with. Then leave it out. No big deal. That's not enough justification to exclude such an important character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lau Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Just now, Anacybele said: Then leave it out. No big deal. That's not enough justification to exclude such an important character. Well when the singing and all that is her signature...I'd rather have her as an NPC than lose that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Anomalocaris said: And? Playable villains are always a fun option, and death doesn't really matter here, else we can't play as Xander, Elise, Ryoma, and Taco Meat. They only die on one path apiece. I wouldn't mind a recolor of Takumi based on his possessed self. 1 minute ago, YotsuMaboroshi said: The main reason I can think of to exclude Azura is that they couldn't figure out a way to turn Sing/Dance into something that makes sense for a warriors game that they were satisfied with. They've made music instruments into weapons before, they can weaponize singing. As for refreshing, temporary stat boost of some sort works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboKD001 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Anacybele said: Then leave it out. No big deal. That's not enough justification to exclude such an important character. Perhaps they feel like its weird for her to be an infant lance with the class dancer but no dance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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