EdeaCreamer Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 No, but I also don't want female Songstresses/Dancers, or any Songstresses/Dancers for that matter, at least in the understood 'Fire Emblem mechanics' sense. I would rather the turn-refreshing mechanic be in the game in a different form, and not be unit-specific (particularly since 9/10 times the character portraying the Baton Passer grates my nerves, and I'd never deploy them were it not for the inability to get anyone else to do the Baton Passing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Denver Fan Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Yes, I would like to see a male songstress, a Bard. But for a male dancer no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Nope, nope, nope. Especially not if they're Azura level fragile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Knight Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 idc about the gender but can they be more than that? i would love if azura had more uses than just refreshing someone's turn... its useful but it makes her boring in return... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altrosa Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 15 hours ago, Pegasus Knight said: idc about the gender but can they be more than that? i would love if azura had more uses than just refreshing someone's turn... its useful but it makes her boring in return... I don't agree. I think the baton pass unit should remain simple. When you use them right, it can substantially boost your power that turn, especially with stat boosting skills on top of it. Azura could defend herself well enough, too. Otherwise, you can just reclass Azura to a pegasus knight and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaMonkey Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Altrosa said: I think the baton pass unit should remain simple. Baton Pass? This is Fire Emblem, not Pokémon. Refreshing a unit in FE isn't anything like using Baton Pass. Edited December 23, 2017 by NinjaMonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altrosa Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Just now, NinjaMonkey said: Baton Pass? This is Fire Emblem, not Pokémon. Refreshing a unit in FE isn't anything like Baton Pass. I saw someone else refer to the unit as such earlier and it stuck since refreshers are more or less handing off their turn to another unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, NinjaMonkey said: Baton Pass? This is Fire Emblem, not Pokémon. Refreshing a unit in FE isn't anything like using Baton Pass. Well it's passing on the ability to act so to speak. But I agree. Let's keep the terminology consistent. Refreshers is what they're typically called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Altrosa said: I don't agree. I think the baton pass unit should remain simple. When you use them right, it can substantially boost your power that turn, especially with stat boosting skills on top of it. Azura could defend herself well enough, too. Otherwise, you can just reclass Azura to a pegasus knight and call it a day. Well, that's true... if you ignore the part where she's so fragile that anything that's moderately powerful and physical OHKOes her, that is. Edited December 23, 2017 by Levant Mir Celestia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altrosa Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 13 hours ago, Levant Mir Celestia said: Well, that's true... if you ignore the part where she's so fragile that anything that's moderately powerful and physical OHKOes her, that is. I guess the BR ease spoiled me since she was never that glassy (or at least, her particularly glassy self didn't lead to a billion restarts). I might just be comparing her too much to Olivia, who is a piece of glass. You get Azura really early, too, so plenty of time to naturally empower her. Also I'll stick to calling them refreshers if that's a more recognized term! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Altrosa said: I guess the BR ease spoiled me since she was never that glassy (or at least, her particularly glassy self didn't lead to a billion restarts). I might just be comparing her too much to Olivia, who is a piece of glass. You get Azura really early, too, so plenty of time to naturally empower her. The problem here is that Olivia happens to be in a game with rather high HP growths, which Azura is unfortunate enough to not be. And her Hp growth is a pathetic 25, which only beats out the Jeigan of the game, as well as a problem child (Rinkah). About the only thing Azura has going for her is that she isn't in a game with same turn reinforcements - if she was, she'd be an even bigger liability than she already is... so "piece of glass" applies just as well to Azura, if not even more so. Edited December 24, 2017 by Levant Mir Celestia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NegativeExponents- Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I would want to see a male singer/dancer. More than that though, I would like for the class to be more common among playable characters and would also like some enemy dancers/singers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, NegativeExponents- said: I would want to see a male singer/dancer. More than that though, I would like for the class to be more common among playable characters and would also like some enemy dancers/singers. Bold: Wishful thinking. Especially the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NegativeExponents- Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 @Levant Mir Celestia well... I never said it was realistic. Plus, doesn’t RD have like three refreshers? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, NegativeExponents- said: @Levant Mir Celestia well... I never said it was realistic. Plus, doesn’t RD have like three refreshers? It’s not like it hasn’t been done before. Three refreshers, but you can never legitmately field more than one at once. Edited December 24, 2017 by Jotari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NegativeExponents- Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Jotari said: Three refreshers, but you can never legitmately field more than one at once. I see. I wasn’t aware of that. Still, even like that, being able to choose between more than one would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 More than wanting to see multiple dancers, I'd like to see the one dancer having a variety of functions via branched promotion. Dancers can do more than just dance, we've seen it before multiple times. It's sort of weird that they've never been included in the branched promotion system. Even giving them the option of staff useage or more viable combat stats would be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altrosa Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Enemy dancers sounds terrifying. A staff dancer would be rad, a full on support unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logjam Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Yes please! I think having a male dancer/singer/bard would be cool. I really like Shigure and Inigo as dancers in FEH and I think it would be cool to see something like that in the next Fire Emblem. I also like the idea of a refresher unit that uses magic. I think staff is interesting, but I would prefer my unit be able to retaliate and I wouldn't have to choose between healing or refreshing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeys_legendary Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) I'd really like this. I could imagine a male dancer to be something like a Polynesian fire dancer! Something like this: Around the 1:05 - 1:30 mark is kind of what I imagine. Edited February 19, 2018 by mikeys_legendary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
De Geso Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Cute girl dancing will always be more appealing to me than guy playing an instrument or dancing. Sorry, Shigure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ae†her Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I don't mind having a male dancer or singer. Maybe we can have a dancer for once that's not completely fragile. But how about instead of a dancer or songstress we have a class that can just enchant other units and empower to make another decision? Maybe this class uses staves or magic instead of a lance or sword, but to offset the sheer utility of this class we give it lower stat caps across the board, and weak Growth Rate boosters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotari Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Ae†her said: I don't mind having a male dancer or singer. Maybe we can have a dancer for once that's not completely fragile. But how about instead of a dancer or songstress we have a class that can just enchant other units and empower to make another decision? Maybe this class uses staves or magic instead of a lance or sword, but to offset the sheer utility of this class we give it lower stat caps across the board, and weak Growth Rate boosters. What? You just described a dancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ae†her Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Jotari said: What? You just described a dancer. Or songstress. I thought Songstress in Fates gives decent stat growths in Str/Skl/Spd/Lck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeManaphy Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Ae†her said: Or songstress. I thought Songstress in Fates gives decent stat growths in Str/Skl/Spd/Lck? The dancer and Songtress class are identical in growths. They even learn the same skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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