TheSilentChloey Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Way to put your foot in it Kiran you dick! Poor Sharena-chan! Don't worry Sharena I'll give you all the hugs you could ever need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolmanio Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 Ch. 97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Jerk Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Clarine just about sums up how we all feel about Healers getting shafted on personal weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) I love how IS just indirectly pointed out that they know staves haven't gotten any Prfs since the refinery dropped. Serra prf when? Edited October 1, 2019 by Zeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercakete Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Huh. You know, that's actually kind of how I pictured the seals looking. Kind of like medals...or coasters, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaxis1 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Rutger/Clarine FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Mercakete said: Huh. You know, that's actually kind of how I pictured the seals looking. Kind of like medals...or coasters, I guess. They previously appeared back in Chapter 22, granted, it was held sideways in Kiran's hand so it was hard to tell, and Chapter 49 also had blessings appear as physical badges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilentChloey Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Aww poor Clarine... That does kind of suck a bit that Healers don't have their own unique refines. Really stinky and a lost opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 17 hours ago, Zeo said: I love how IS just indirectly pointed out that they know staves haven't gotten any Prfs since the refinery dropped. Serra prf when? what would you want for Serra? just a heavier might absorb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, daisy jane said: what would you want for Serra? just a heavier might absorb? A prf Absorb with built in Mystic Boost + Breath of Life 3 to heal both Serra and her allies for 7 after each round of combat. Edited October 2, 2019 by Zeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diovani Bressan Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Zeo said: A prf Absorb with built in Mystic Boost + Breath of Life 3 to heal both Serra and her allies for 7 after each round of combat. Isn't that too much? Stacking Absorb + Mythic Boost + Breath of Life? The healing would be insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 "Great" Personality - No unit, whether ally or enemy, can move adjacent to unit. (Serra herself is still free to move adjacent to someone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeo Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Diovani Bressan said: Isn't that too much? Stacking Absorb + Mythic Boost + Breath of Life? The healing would be insane. On a Gen 4 healer with 160+ BST and a built in OP skill like ATK/SPD Push 4 + a mount of some kind? Absolutely. On Serra? No. It's like Odin's refine. If it was on literally any other blue mage, it would be busted. But on him? It's just decent. Edited October 2, 2019 by Zeo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) So the problem with unique staves is the fact that there are multiple absurdly good inheritable options that work on any unit. Having unique staff pretty much means you're either locked to using the unit in the specific way that the staff wants you to use it or you're using an inheritable staff and the existence of the unique staff made no difference. While this argument appears like it would be applicable for any other weapon type's refines, the difference is the fact that staff users in support roles have zero use for any of their stats whereas combat units' performance and build options are intrinsically tied with their stat spread. Because of this, it's far less likely for a combat unit's weapon refine to completely change the unit's role or invalidate skills that a player has already given to the unit. In contrast, every staff unit that doesn't have a unique weapon can perform every support-oriented staff role, making the narrowing of their role due to the introduction of unique staves much more likely to conflict with already built units. Honestly, it'd be better to just give staves the ability to be refined twice (with the second refine's list of options being dependent of the weapon) instead of handing out unique staff weapons. Edited October 2, 2019 by Ice Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diovani Bressan Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ice Dragon said: So the problem with unique staves is the fact that there are multiple absurdly good inheritable options that work on any unit. Having unique staff pretty much means you're either locked to using the unit in the specific way that the staff wants you to use it or you're using an inheritable staff and the existence of the unique staff made no difference. While this argument appears like it would be applicable for any other weapon type's refines, the difference is the fact that staff users in support roles have zero use for any of their stats whereas combat units' performance and build options are intrinsically tied with their stat spread. Because of this, it's far less likely for a combat unit's weapon refine to completely change the unit's role or invalidate skills that a player has already given to the unit. In contrast, every staff unit that doesn't have a unique weapon can perform every support-oriented staff role, making the narrowing of their role due to the introduction of unique staves much more likely to conflict with already built units. Honestly, it'd be better to just give staves the ability to be refined twice (with the second refine's list of options being dependent of the weapon) instead of handing out unique staff weapons. I am not sure about your "2nd tier refinement for staves" idea... You need to refine the weapon for the Wrathful or Dazzling effect, and then refine it again? I prefer Prf weapons for Staff users, to make each of more unique, with a unique weapon and role. Having a Prf weapon doesn't mean that the unit is forced to use that weapon. Players can do whatever they want with their units. I use Lucius in my infantry team, and even if he receive a Prf Weapon, it's not guaranteed that I will not use Candlelight or Witchy Wand on him anymore, but I would enjoy him with a Prf Weapon. The only thing that IntSys would need to keep is the Wrathful or Dazzling refinement for the prf weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Diovani Bressan said: I am not sure about your "2nd tier refinement for staves" idea... You need to refine the weapon for the Wrathful or Dazzling effect, and then refine it again? Yes. 1 hour ago, Diovani Bressan said: Having a Prf weapon doesn't mean that the unit is forced to use that weapon. Having a unique weapon that doesn't get used is a waste of a unique weapon. Like Raijinto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolmanio Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Ch. 98 Ch. 99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaaaaaah Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Beautiful. Simply beautiful you funky little sword-women/huntresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Oh my gosh Hrid. LOL XD I just keep loving him more and more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilentChloey Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Ah, Hrìd, seriously one of my favourite Nifl siblings and now even more so XD Also nice to see Petra making some new friends XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercakete Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Hrid is such a good brother. Kind of wish he was my brother. (Note: I do not actually have a living brother.) Also, I really liked the language-learning one. Now THAT'S comradery! =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 7 hours ago, TheSilentChloey said: Ah, Hrìd, seriously one of my favourite Nifl siblings and now even more so XD ...We...actually like one of the same characters? I never thought this was possible. Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottservia Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Great now I’m starting to ship Petra and Athena as if I didn’t have enough Yuri ships in my head already. Oh well it’s adorable so I’m not complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilentChloey Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Anacybele said: ...We...actually like one of the same characters? I never thought this was possible. Seriously. Don't be so surprised Ana. XD Sometimes things like that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWeaver Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 6:56 AM, Diovani Bressan said: I am not sure about your "2nd tier refinement for staves" idea... You need to refine the weapon for the Wrathful or Dazzling effect, and then refine it again? I prefer Prf weapons for Staff users, to make each of more unique, with a unique weapon and role. Having a Prf weapon doesn't mean that the unit is forced to use that weapon. Players can do whatever they want with their units. I use Lucius in my infantry team, and even if he receive a Prf Weapon, it's not guaranteed that I will not use Candlelight or Witchy Wand on him anymore, but I would enjoy him with a Prf Weapon. The only thing that IntSys would need to keep is the Wrathful or Dazzling refinement for the prf weapons. Coming in late, but Staves are the only thing I use the Refining Stones on - most other Units are going to get a refinable Prf at some point, so I usually just let them wait for it, and I doubt I’m the only one like that. It wouldn’t cause too much damage to have an extra level of refine for Units that don’t generally lack for SP and are the only real non-Dew-using refines probably a fair number of players use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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