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Why Grima cannot kill Naga


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So as you all know, in Fire Emblem Awakening, Naga states that neither she nor Grima can kill the other, as neither are true gods. 

However, then we get in Future Past 3 where Grima states that he had in fact killed Naga, so Lucina cannot perform the Awakening. Naturally, this contradicts what Naga claimed about how they cannot kill one another. But then there's the case about Tiki suddenly appeared in spirit form, and declared that she has become the new Naga. This implies that Naga is in fact a title that powerful Manaketes can inherit, and this Naga is not necessarily the original Naga, but is that truly the case?

Allow me to explain by using a term that FE7 players should know, quintessence. We know that quintessence exists in all living things, being the source of life itself, meaning that it's part of the planet, almost like the Lifestream in Final Fantasy VII. So when living things die, the quintessence within them is released. Quintessence isn't just unique to the Elibe series, as FE4 had Claud explain the limitations of the Valkyrie staff and how quintessence is involved, but was unable to fully explain. 

Now this is where I explain how this relates to Naga. 

Dragons are said to have very large amounts of quintessence, so much that if Nergal could unleash the dragons and absorb their quintessence, he would be invincible. And in Archanea, we know that Naga is said to have been the most powerful dragon there was. And throughout the Fire Emblem franchise, her power are always held in high regard. Her fang forged into Falchion allowed her to slay the likes of the fellow Divine Dragons Duma and Mila, and even Medeus when he was an Earth Dragon and a Dark Dragon, and by Awakening, her fang could be used to put Grima to sleep. In Genealogy, her tome is able to defeat Loptyr as well. And by Awakening's time, Naga showed the ability to warp space and time, allowing her to help others travel through time, and another Naga brought people from the past to an alternate future. This ability to break the taboo is so amazing that even Anankos, a god-dragon, is in absolute awe.

Naturally, this means that Naga had to have held an absolute phenomenal amount of quintessence within her body. 

This is where I delve even deeper. Recall how in Mount Prism, it is said that Naga's power actually runs through the very land itself, and hence why it is regarded as holy grounds. In Future Past, Tiki explains to Grima that because he defiled the land, Naga's power now focuses on another land, being Ylisstol due to housing Tiki's corpse. 

Get it? Naga's power is her quintessence, which has now become part of the world itself. Naga's will is so powerful that its tied to the quintessence that has become part of the planet. This is why Grima cannot kill her. Naga will always revive so long as her power remains attached to the land. Meaning that even if she's killed, sooner or later, she would actually revive herself. 

If you guys don't believe that she could revive herself, remember Shadow Dragon and New Mystery of the Emblem. In those games, we have a character named Nagi, who is heavily implied to be Naga's reincarnation. 

But that can't be possible. Why? Because Tiki is the last born Manakete (Nowi doesn't count here for this conversation). Naga dies after sealing Tiki away. Well, in that case, how could Nagi be Naga's reincarnation if she would have to be born and actually be younger than Tiki? Because Nagi wasn't born the natural way. Rather Nagi is a body that was created by Naga herself for a vessel to enter the moral plane. This means that even if Grima ends the Manakete species, Naga can still return by creating a new body, but she would need time. However, this is not needed if another Manakete of sufficient power can inherit the title as well. 

This means the only way that Grima could have ensured that he killed Naga is to actually destroy the world itself, as then Naga's spirit would be destroyed as well. 

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Whew, that was a very long explanation. Let me know what you guys all think of it. 

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This sounds logical & all since that would a pretty legit reason for Grima to be this generic doomsday villain since self proclaim to her arch enemy (because you can never just have more than 1 right?). Does Nowi really screw up the timeline that much?

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7 hours ago, Zangetsu said:

This sounds logical & all since that would a pretty legit reason for Grima to be this generic doomsday villain since self proclaim to her arch enemy (because you can never just have more than 1 right?). Does Nowi really screw up the timeline that much?

Nah. Nowi was born about 1000 years after Shadow Dragon, meaning that a significant amount of time had passed, and some surviving Manaketes could have potentially managed to procreate at long last. 

6 hours ago, Dandy Druid said:

So Naga faked Grima out? The ultimate "bitch you thought".

Well, in a way, Grima DID kill Naga. He just likely didn't know that Naga could have revived herself like he could. 

After all, even if Grima and all those that had his bloodline dies, Grima is implied to still be able to recreate new bloodlines. 

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1 minute ago, Arthur97 said:

I guess I subscribe to the theory of "Naga" being more of a title. Grima could never kill the role or power of Naga even if the current holder died.

Well, Tiki did take the role of Naga. But I believe that Naga's spirit itself never truly died. Even when her body did, Naga's spirit remained tied to her quintessence. This is why Naga was able to become Nagi. So even if all other Manaketes are dead, Naga can revive herself. But since Tiki became the new Naga, now its Tiki that has become part of the world and Naga's spirit has moved on now in the world of Future Past.

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