Florete Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 59 minutes ago, YotsuMaboroshi said: On the other hand, Ryoma and Hinoka got 2 new ones while Xander and Camilla got 0, Lianna's had one less than Rowan since the Fates DLC, and Sakura now has 1 more than Elise. Edit: Counting things, Hinoka has 8 conversations to Camilla's 5, Ryoma and Xander now have the same number at 10, and Elise and Sakura now both have 7 (apparently I was misremembering). Lianna and Rowan are still no longer equal. It's still lopsided, just not as much as I initially thought. I'm pretty certain they aren't trying to balance out the number of support conversations certain characters get in the DLC. Early datamining showed some conversations that apparently got cut, notably Camilla with Cordelia (still wouldn't make her even with Hinoka, though), Lianna with Niles (which would have kept her even with Rowan), and Sakura with Niles. I haven't seen any of the new conversations yet so maybe they make sense, but I'm kind of surprised by the abundance of supports with Hoshidans here, especially Hinoka, the least popular of them. Both Navarre and Minerva get Ryoma, Hinoka, and Sakura, yet there's no supports with the Awakening cast, characters who actually exist in the same universe but thousands of years later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSSKG151 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Arthur97 said: Well, we don't know if Gungir will have some weird effect. As much as I prefer using Cordelia over Hinoka and Caeda I kind of doubt Gungnir will get a seventh ability if Aura and Hauteclere didn't. Especially if they choose to base Gungnir from Awakening instead of Genealogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, NSSKG151 said: As much as I prefer using Cordelia over Hinoka and Caeda I kind of doubt Gungnir will get a seventh ability if Aura and Hauteclere didn't. Especially if they choose to base Gungnir from Awakening instead of Genealogy. Yeah, it's unlikely, but not impossible. Though, if you really want to use Cordelia, it's not like she's unusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Regarding Linde's skill...How much Awakening meter is given on a stun gauge break? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSSKG151 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Arthur97 said: Yeah, it's unlikely, but not impossible. Though, if you really want to use Cordelia, it's not like she's unusable. I never said Cordelia was bad, she works great with topsy-turvy. It's just that Caeda's stats and personal weapon makes her stand out among the Pegasus Knights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, NSSKG151 said: I never said Cordelia was bad, she works great with topsy-turvy. It's just that Caeda's stats and personal weapon makes her stand out among the Pegasus Knights. I know, but in the end, this is still a Warriors game. Also, I seem to find that Topsy-turvy is more likely to end poorly for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Arthur97 said: Also, I seem to find that Topsy-turvy is more likely to end poorly for me. Why do you say this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Levant Mir Celestia said: Why do you say this? It seems that whenever I use it (Celica and Lianna for example) things seem to take longer to kill almost like resistance is the generally higher stat which seems weird. Sakura would be the main exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomalocaris Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Azz said: You monster. I hope you burn in the inferno with Gharnef. We shall be waiting in the pits of the inferno... for when YOU join us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Welp, they didn't fix the crashing issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSSKG151 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Arthur97 said: I know, but in the end, this is still a Warriors game. Also, I seem to find that Topsy-turvy is more likely to end poorly for me. Yeah, but for me if there is a way to finish a game faster or if there is a character/strategy that works better than the other options I usually take said speedier options. I'm not saying people have to use Caeda over Hinoka or Cordelia but its just how I play games these days. I am aware that people don't play the game the same way I do. Besides, I do try to make characters I like as optimal as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_n Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I hope, if there''s ever a sequel or enhanced edition or just big game update, that they do more things like Rampage Like what if Spellbane Yumi had Wing Slayer AND Tomebreaker (I'm aware the skill didnt come until the fates pack, stay with me here). What if each twin had something else mixed with beast slayer? Dragon slayer for Velzedark, for example. In general the weapons getting extra skills, even if they didn't in their originals, would have been nice. Wo Dao & Oboro's Lance (based on the killer naginata iirc) with Critical+. Aura with Warrior+. Yato with Pair Up+. And so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmurr Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Florete said: Early datamining showed some conversations that apparently got cut, notably Camilla with Cordelia (still wouldn't make her even with Hinoka, though), Lianna with Niles (which would have kept her even with Rowan), and Sakura with Niles. I haven't seen any of the new conversations yet so maybe they make sense, but I'm kind of surprised by the abundance of supports with Hoshidans here, especially Hinoka, the least popular of them. Both Navarre and Minerva get Ryoma, Hinoka, and Sakura, yet there's no supports with the Awakening cast, characters who actually exist in the same universe but thousands of years later... I'm pretty happy with the support conversations overall. I think they did a good job with the writing of them in all the ones I've seen, but they did a bizarrely shit job at balancing them, yes. Not that we necessarily needed it to be perfectly balanced, but there's definitely some characters getting the short end of the stick. I'm pretty disappointed that Linde doesn't have more, for example, and agree that it's super weird the Shadow Dragon characters don't have more Awakening character supports given that tidbit you mentioned that I bolded of them canonically being in the same universe.. literally the same continent. Hell, country. I'm pretty sure Ylisse is supposed to be Archanea. I guess they'll likely give Awakening characters supports with other Awakening characters. Though I'm starting to feel like the developers have a tad bit of Fates bias. Edited February 15, 2018 by dmurr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azz Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just a question to see if anyone tested it, but when using Staff flip on a weapon, if you get armour striked, does you Atk and Res decrease or you Def and Res? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_n Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Linde/Marth support is great because its just Linde dragging Merric for his marth worship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Um, does someone know how much Awakening gauge Linde's skill gives....??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_n Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Levant Mir Celestia said: Um, does someone know how much Awakening gauge Linde's skill gives....??? 50% The twist is it only gives 50% on yellow gauges and never gives any during awakening. So everyone hoping for infinite Tiki is out of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, r_n said: 50% The twist is it only gives 50% on yellow gauges and never gives any during awakening. So everyone hoping for infinite Tiki is out of luck But in her dragon state, she always gets yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_n Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Arthur97 said: But in her dragon state, she always gets yellow. Her dragon state always gets yellow because her dragon state is her awakening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Just now, r_n said: Her dragon state always gets yellow because her dragon state is her awakening Welp, didn't properly read that. My bad. Yeah, that skill seems kind of lackluster for a mage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, r_n said: 50% The twist is it only gives 50% on yellow gauges and never gives any during awakening. So everyone hoping for infinite Tiki is out of luck Only on yellow gauges, huh...? That's completely contrary to what the Skills page said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomalocaris Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Levant Mir Celestia said: Only on yellow gauges, huh...? That's completely contrary to what the Skills page said... If you mean the Skills page on the wiki, that's the in-game description of the skill so something's amiss here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Anomalocaris said: If you mean the Skills page on the wiki, that's the in-game description of the skill so something's amiss here. Yeah, that's what I was looking at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecrimsonflash Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Tiki infinities are still possible with quick wit, if you use her awakening finisher to break the stun gauge you get the half awakening restoration, it requires much more precision than is prefered but it is still doable. The same can be assumed for the rest of the characters. Edited February 16, 2018 by thecrimsonflash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur97 Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Huh, apparently Lyn's outfit makes her hair and eyes lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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