SatsumaFSoysoy Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Coming 24/2, the Fallen Prince of Hoshido, Takumi, who may or may not be insane, will make you pay for your betrayal. Thanks Tybrosion for reinforcements Map Hard & Lunatic Spoiler Infernal Spoiler Infernal Enemy Data Starting enemies Fallen Takumi x2 Spoiler HP: 60 Atk: 51 Spd: 43 Def: 31 Res: 30 Weapon: SkadiAssist: Special: Vengeance A: Fury 3B: Cancel Affinity 3C: Spd Smoke 3 Cleric (Gravity) Spoiler HP: 46 Atk: 41 Spd: 31 Def: 25 Res: 38 Weapon: Gravity+Assist: Physic+Special: A: Distant Def 3B: Dazzling Staff 3C: Savage Blow 3 Cleric (Slow) Spoiler HP: 46 Atk: 43 Spd: 31 Def: 25 Res: 38 Weapon: Slow+Assist: Physic+Special: A: Distant Def 3B: Dazzling Staff 3C: Savage Blow 3 Bow Knight Spoiler HP: 55 Atk: 51 Spd: 24 Def: 27 Res: 25 Weapon: Silver Bow+Assist: Special: Glimmer A: Death Blow 3B: Quick Riposte 3C: Savage Blow 3 Lance Cavalier Spoiler HP: 57 Atk: 52 Spd: 27 Def: 28 Res: 33 Weapon: Silver Lance+Assist: Special: Aegis A: Steady Stance 3B: Obstruct 3C: Threaten Atk 3 Reinforcements Turn 2 Mercenary Spoiler HP: 61 Atk: 48 Spd: 34 Def: 33 Res: 24 Weapon: Armorsmasher+Assist: Special: Noontime A: Darting Blow 3B: Swordbreaker 3C: Drive Atk 3 Blue Mage Spoiler HP: 52 Atk: 48 Spd: 35 Def: 22 Res: 33 Weapon: Keen Blárwolf+Assist: Special: Iceberg A: Atk/Res 2B: Pass 3C: Threaten Spd 3 Sword Dragoon Spoiler HP: 57 Atk: 53 Spd: 33 Def: 39 Res: 21 Weapon: Silver Sword+Assist: Special: Draconic Aura A: Spd +3B: Guard 3C: Spur Atk 3 Turn 3 Green Mage Spoiler HP: 52 Atk: 50 Spd: 38 Def: 25 Res: 34 Weapon: Rexcalibur+Assist: Special: Iceberg A: Fury 3B: Vantage 3C: Res Ploy 3 Thief Spoiler HP: 50 Atk: 40 Spd: 42 Def: 15 Res: 35 Weapon: Smoke Dagger+Assist: Special: Miracle A: Flashing Blade 3B: Windsweep 3C: Savage Blow 3 Turn 4 Red Mage Knight Spoiler HP: 45 Atk: 49 Spd: 28 Def: 18 Res: 37 Weapon: Rauðrraven+Assist: Special: Moonbow A: Warding Blow 3B: Poison Strike 3C: Drive Res 2 Axe Cavalier Spoiler HP: 57 Atk: 52 Spd: 27 Def: 28 Res: 33 Weapon: Silver Axe+Assist: Special: Luna A: Close Def 3B: Seal Def 3C: Drive Def 2 Edited February 24, 2018 by SatsumaFSoysoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Strategy - Like most reinforcement maps on Infernal, playing passive is quite difficult; it's more profitable to go in and get kills instead of baiting. - As annoying as Skadi's map attack is, there's not much you can do to avoid it. Clearing out most of the enemies on the screen before the turn it hits is the safest thing to do. - Abuse the trenches to your favour; they don't actually hinder your own horses that much, considering the spawn positions of enemies. Clears/References Maximum cheese clear by Minh trần - Reinhardt / V!Lilina / Gordin / PA!Inigo [Brave Bow, Atk Tactics] Hinata and Oboro destroy Takumi by Evenus - +10 Hinata / +10 Oboro / filler x2 [High merge(s), Very expensive] Using V!Ike to kill the Takumis on turn 1 - V!Ike + Smite Minimal investment free Hero run by Jimanii (じまにい) - Black Knight / Fjorm / 4* Olivia / 4* Wrys [Reasonable investment!, Free Heroes!] Relatively cheap run by Nyantiramis (ニャンティラミス) - Ursula / Klein / Lyon / 4* Olivia [Reasonable investment!] No SI run by sukwindallinrush - Black Knight / Fjorm / 4* Olivia / 4* Priscilla [No inheritance!] Healers destroy Takumi by Lu Bu Feng Xian - Sakura / Elise / Priscilla / Maria [High merge(s), Very expensive] Member clears No One Sleep in Tokyo by Fruity Insanity - Reinhardt / Brave Roy / NY!Azura / Cordelia [Horse buffs, Galeforce, Airzura, Expensive] Remember Me by Nowi's Husband - +10 Nowi / H!Nowi / filler x2 [High merge(s), Expensive] Love and Money by Fei Mao - +10 Felicia / Marisa / F!Robin / 4* Olivia [High merge(s), Very expensive] Spark in the Dark by Ginko - Shiro / Siegbert / V!Roy / PA!Azura [No magic!, Brave Bow, Expensive] My Only Star by ShadowYoshi - B!Cordelia / triple dancer [Danced solo!, Brave Bow, Expensive] TAKUMI by SatsumaFSoysoy - Peri / Kagerou / Cherche / Azura [No magic!, Firesweep, Very expensive] Save Me by donkeykhang - Marth / Caeda / Hardin / Katarina [Expensive] Gas Gas Gas by Rafiel's Aria - +10 Raven / Lucius / PA!Azura / Azura [High merge(s), Galeforce, Very expensive] Deja Vu by Iggy/Safer - Sakura / Reinhardt / F!Takumi / PA!Azura [Reasonable investment!] Dancing by DLNarshen - Narcian / Hinoka / Caeda / Shanna [High merge(s), Very expensive] Don't Stand So Close by Thor Odinson - Ryoma / Reinhardt / Olivia / Nino [High merge(s), Very expensive] Be My Babe by DefaultBeep - Clarisse / PA!Azura / Airzura / CYL!Lucina [Danced solo!, Airzura ,Very expensive] Edited February 24, 2018 by SatsumaFSoysoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSbardock84 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I was thinking of a fourth character that was possessed. Forgot about Takumi. Freaking weirdest out of all of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, SSbardock84 said: I was thinking of a fourth character that was possessed. Forgot about Takumi. Freaking weirdest out of all of these. What's weird about it? He gets possessed, too. I'm curious what exactly they'll do with him. I'm guessing he'll have Skadi as a Close Counter bow, but that wouldn't really differentiate him from regular Takumi, so that leaves questions about his other skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Sen Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I'm hoping he'llget a ranged version of Wrath, as potentially absurdly overpowered as that would on certain units. I'm also hoping he gets a special that isn't Vengeance, but that's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tybrosion Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, Azure Sen said: I'm hoping he'llget a ranged version of Wrath, as potentially absurdly overpowered as that would on certain units. I'm also hoping he gets a special that isn't Vengeance, but that's about it. Nah, he won’t get Vengeance since that’s what his normal counterpart has. Anankumi will probably just get Reprisal instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mampfoid Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Is there any chance for Takumi not being an Archer, or least being a flying Archer? After having only three decent archers for a long period (Lyn, Jeorge & Klein), I got plenty recently pulling for Roy (Corrin, Takumi, Innes and Roy himself), plus I have two perfect copies of Leon to be raised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewMcC00l Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) I was starting to regret promoting Lyon even though I didn't have a bonus unit, but now I can run two raven tomes for this. Skaldi's gimmick was that it cloned the user, so that will probably translate to there being two identical Takumis on the field (and maybe they'll have to be killed on the same turn like Minerva's Whitewings). Edited February 22, 2018 by AndrewMcC00l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, mampfoid said: Is there any chance for Takumi not being an Archer, or least being a flying Archer? After having only three decent archers for a long period (Lyn, Jeorge & Klein), I got plenty recently pulling for Roy (Corrin, Takumi, Innes and Roy himself), plus I have two perfect copies of Leon to be raised. I doubt it, since possessed Takumi still uses bows and doesn't have a mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingle Jangle Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, mampfoid said: Is there any chance for Takumi not being an Archer, or least being a flying Archer? After having only three decent archers for a long period (Lyn, Jeorge & Klein), I got plenty recently pulling for Roy (Corrin, Takumi, Innes and Roy himself), plus I have two perfect copies of Leon to be raised. I doubt it, the Takumi in the final map of Conquest was a sniper. However, he might be considered a armor unit for not moving in the final map similar to GrimaRobin being a armor unit. But that's wishful thinking on my part.The Free archers released in the past were Clarisse and New Years Corrin, I want him to be better than those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Zero Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jingle Jangle said: I doubt it, the Takumi in the final map of Conquest was a sniper. However, he might be considered a armor unit for not moving in the final map similar to GrimaRobin being a armor unit. But that's wishful thinking on my part.The Free archers released in the past were Clarisse and New Years Corrin, I want him to be better than those two. Yes, they could end up making him an armored unit as a reference to that and the Dragonskin skill. Edited February 22, 2018 by Lord-Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NegativeExponents- Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) Did Skadi even have s special effect built into it? I mean outside of duplicating the user since I feel that won’t translate well as a skill in Heroes. I wonder if he’ll be armored or infantry. I don’t like armors all that much but he could be the first non-seasonal armored bow. Edited February 22, 2018 by NegativeExponents- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, NegativeExponents- said: Did Skadi even have s special effect built into it? I mean outside of duplicating the user since I feel that won’t translate well as a skill in Heroes. I wonder if he’ll be armored or infantry. I don’t like armors all that much but if he could be the first non-seasonal armored bow. Skadi's main effect was being 1-4 range, which I think would translate to a Close Counter effect. It's certainly possible that he'll be armored, but I don't see much of a reason why they'd do it. I think they'd rather save the next armored archer for another banner, seasonal or not, and Takumi doesn't have a need to be armored. So far, I think all GHBs have had unit types that were already available in the regular summoning pool at the time they were released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSbardock84 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Othin said: What's weird about it? He gets possessed, too. I'm curious what exactly they'll do with him. I'm guessing he'll have Skadi as a Close Counter bow, but that wouldn't really differentiate him from regular Takumi, so that leaves questions about his other skills. What I meant by weird is the character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 If Hector and Better Hector both got Distant Counter, then Better Takumi is getting Close Counter. That's just how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFrigid Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, SatsumaFSoysoy said: Coming tomorrow night Did you get time zone'd? I'm seeing it as 2 days from now (plus five and a half-ish hours) - 2/23/18 at 11:00 p.m. ... assuming it's Pacific Time. I wonder if they'll recycle the New Years Tempest final map for this one. Edited February 22, 2018 by LordFrigid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatsumaFSoysoy Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, LordFrigid said: Did you get time zone'd? I'm seeing it as 2 days from now (plus five and a half-ish hours) - 2/23/18 at 11:00 p.m. I wonder if they'll recycle the New Years Tempest final map for this one. Ah, yes. Goddamnit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, LordFrigid said: I wonder if they'll recycle the New Years Tempest final map for this one. It seems like that map would fit the best. I wonder if they were planning this GHB way back then, they could have saved it for now. Has Takumi been data mined? I wonder if his weapon will have built in Close Counter. Or maybe he'll have it as an A skill, so there's F2P CC fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Branniglenn Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Oh, and I'm throwing in my bet that Better Takumi is an armor unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Glennstavos said: Oh, and I'm throwing in my bet that Better Takumi is an armor unit. I don't doubt it, but the rational for what makes an armor unit is arbitrary at best now. If Christmas Tharja is armored, anything can be. If the bride banner came out today, they'd all be armored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rezzy said: Has Takumi been data mined? If there is no update for the Heroes app, there is no datamine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezzy Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Ice Dragon said: If there is no update for the Heroes app, there is no datamine. Thanks, whilest working, it can be cumbersome to check for updates, and that's not to mention blaring FIRE EMBLEM, HEROES! for all to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Rezzy said: Thanks, whilest working, it can be cumbersome to check for updates, and that's not to mention blaring FIRE EMBLEM, HEROES! for all to hear. The Google Play Store (or the Apple equivalent) is faster than the Heroes app at knowing there's an update and doesn't come with the loud audio if you forget to mute your media volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaden Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, NegativeExponents- said: Did Skadi even have s special effect built into it? I mean outside of duplicating the user since I feel that won’t translate well as a skill in Heroes. I wonder if he’ll be armored or infantry. I don’t like armors all that much but he could be the first non-seasonal armored bow. 1-4 range was mentioned, but it also has critical evade +20 which I guess would be Guard in Heroes, but some people might find that underwhelming compared to anything else. 1 hour ago, Glennstavos said: Oh, and I'm throwing in my bet that Better Takumi is an armor unit. Watch him be a Kinshi Knight. Edited February 22, 2018 by Kaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interdimensional Observer Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Rezzy said: I don't doubt it, but the rational for what makes an armor unit is arbitrary at best now. If Christmas Tharja is armored, anything can be. If the bride banner came out today, they'd all be armored. One, a sufficiently thick and well made wedding gown would probably offer some arrow protection, maybe a couple slashes too, but not for long. Two, Charja has the excuse of likely not being Armor originally back when she was supposed to be one of the first Seasonals before the FEH release got delayed. Owing to the weakness of Armors in the metagame as revealed later on, she got assigned Armor status to address this and make her more desirable. 34 minutes ago, Kaden said: 1-4 range was mentioned, but it also has critical evade +20 which I guess would be Guard in Heroes, but some people might find that underwhelming compared to anything else. They need to invent new forms of Special damage reduction perhaps. Aren't there like 10 different ways of reducing cooldown now? Would it be worth considering new ways of reducing incoming Special damage? Maybe the Siegfried can get such a way in a refine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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