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You're in charge of a Smash reboot and can only pick 20 fighters: who do you go with?


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It's kinda hard to know what I'd pick without an idea of what the reboot's gameplay would be like; 3D Virtual On-style combat? Top-down 3D combat like League of Legends? Or just completely revamped character movesets?

But based on what's current, I'd go with these picks:

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  • Mario
  • Luigi
  • Peach
  • Bowser
  • Donkey Kong
  • Yoshi
  • Wario
  • Link
  • Zelda
  • Ganon
  • Samus Aran
  • Ridley
  • Pit
  • Fox McCloud
  • Kirby
  • King Dedede
  • Pikachu
  • Chrom/3H Protagonist
  • Shulk
  • Inkling

But the fact that they were considering revamping the gameplay tells me the next Smash might not be a Smash at all; it might be a spiritual successor, with a focus on fast-paced combat between characters from various IPs, but the game might not be a Smash title in the technical sense.

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On 6/25/2018 at 10:14 PM, The DanMan said:

Honestly, as someone who had been excited over the thought of a Smash reboot/directional shift, having a roster this truncated would definitely be a tough pill to swallow-- and with it seemingly a when, not if, it makes me greater appreciate what we've got right now.

It'll be like what Dynasty Warriors has twice, painfully, gone through at this point with DW6 and DW9, except Smash having a much larger fanbase will elicit much more screaming.

I've also heard some people say Pokemon is being weighed down by its sheer roster size, but that is quite different.

9 hours ago, Lord_Brand said:

But the fact that they were considering revamping the gameplay tells me the next Smash might not be a Smash at all; it might be a spiritual successor, with a focus on fast-paced combat between characters from various IPs, but the game might not be a Smash title in the technical sense.

I'm not sure if they could get away with that, it'd make a lot of people angry. The better solution would be to put Smash on the backburner but still making new ones, whilst shifting the developmental gusto into the new gameplay successor. Not sure how feasible this is though.

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6 minutes ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

It'll be like what Dynasty Warriors has twice, painfully, gone through at this point with DW6 and DW9, except Smash having a much larger fanbase will elicit much more screaming.

I've also heard some people say Pokemon is being weighed down by its sheer roster size, but that is quite different.

DW at least kept most/all of the characters, and varying shades of clones I believe had always been a thing outside of 8. Smash losing 70% of its characters after Ultimate would be a massive change; honestly, I think 30 is the minimum they could go with.

 

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Oof, only 20? That narrows things down a lot!

Mario Franchise:
1) Mario
2) Bowser
3) Peach
4) Wario
5) Donkey Kong
The legend of Zelda:
6) Link
7) Ganondorf
Metroid:
8) Samus
9) Ridley
Pokemon:
10) Pokemon Trainer
11) Pikachu
Franchises with only one representative:
12)Fox
13) FE swordlords (they would all be alternate skins of each-other)
14) Kirby
15) Inkling
16) Olimar
17) Villager
18) Little Mac
19) Captain Falcon
20) Rex&Pyra 

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So, you know what? Let's bring the salt. :P Maybe. 20 only, no Third Party, Final Destination.

Personal :

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1: Ike

2: Marth

3: Robin

4: Pokemon Trainer

5: Pikachu

6: Lucario

7: Mewtwo

8: Samus

9: Link

10: Ganondorf

11: Zelda

12: Inkling

13: Yoshi

14: Kirby

15: Meta Knight

16: Ice Climbers

17: Shiek

18: Ness

19: Lucas

20: Little Mac

Pragmatic (With the assumption of the characters being linked to recent/upcoming releases):

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1: Mario (No brainer)

2: Link (No brainer)

3: Kirby (No brainer)

4: Falcon (Despite F-Zero's lack of new titles, Falcon is really associated with Smash. Can risk dropping)

5: Ness (Earthbound got a VC release and EZ happened, so of course)

6: Fox (Despite Star Fox's recent woes, no brainer)

7: Pikachu (No brainer)

8: Donkey Kong (No brainer)

9: Luigi (Luigi got a release on 3DS. So I think he'll get in here)

10: Samus (No brainer)

11: Yoshi (No brainer)

12: Ganondorf (This villain is a good choice imo, though divert more from Falcon)

13: Zelda (For the sake of the triforce being covered.)

14: Bowser (More villains, of course)

15: Dedede (Oh boy, it was him or Pit and Kirby has more titles out recently.)

16: Inkling (New guys, of course)

17: Pokemon Trainer (More G1 nostalgia and it allows for more characters. :P)

18: Ridley (Metroid getting two reps for MP4)

19: Lucario (Well, Pokemon's always relevant and Sinnoh remakes allows Lucario to pip Mewtwo)

20: Ike (Wait, why's he the only FE rep? With the new online platform supposedly doing GCVC, you know what that means? Tellius hype. So of course they'd push Ike and drop some of the others to avoid backlash off too many FE reps while they don't promote future titles. Poor Marth.)

Wildcard (A villains only roster (Or as least as best as I can stretch it)):

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1: Duck Hunt (That dog was laughing at you the whole time. And now it works with the duck. A true monster)

2: Dark Pit (Villain. Simple)

3: Bowser (Villain. Simple)

4: Bowser Jr. (Villain. Simple)

5: Robin (Entirely because Grima would be the final smash)

6: Ridley (Villain. Simple)

7: Ganondorf (Villain. Simple)

8: Wolf (Villain. Simple)

9: Wario (Been a villain. Simple)

10: Mewtwo (Has had a villainous bent, understandable as it is)

11: Dedede (Villain. Simple)

12: Meta Knight (Been a villain. Simple)

13: Donkey Kong (Been a villain. Simple)

14: Corrin (Representing Fates's writing)

15: ROB (1. Villains in Subspace. 2. well, if you've been around the internet long enough I think you know the other one)

16: Mr. Game & Watch (ooo. This one's tough. The new villain I guess.)

17: Villager (Considering those eyes as they massacre the others around them, of course)

18: Pokemon Trainer (Well, when you consider how the pokemon world works, of COURSE they're in.)

19: Dr. Mario (The villainy of uninsured healthcare everyone. I swear Mario's not an actual doctor and is getting people killed.)

20: Wii Fit Trainer (The villainy of exercise!) Falco (Rival to Fox, likely to be made corrupted too)

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  1. Mario
  2. Link
  3. Luigi
  4. Pikachu
  5. Captain Falcon
  6. Jigglypuff
  7. Kirby
  8. Fox
  9. Ness
  10. Samus/zero suit
  11. Yoshi
  12. Donkey Kong
  13. Bowser
  14. Zelda/Sheik (counted as one due to transform)
  15. Peach
  16. Marth
  17. Ice climbers
  18. Mewtwo
  19. Rosalina/Luma
  20. Pit
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It's super hard for me to pick just 20, so I made a personal list of all the characters that I'd pick, and a second list that might be more realistic.

Personal:

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1. Mario
2. Peach
3. Bowser
4. Link
5. Zelda
6. Sheik
7. Ice Climbers
8. Pichu
9. Zero Suit Samus
10. Marth
11. Ike
12. Robin
13. Wolf
14. Rosalina & Luma
15. Ness
16. Lucas
17. Kirby
18. Snake
19. Inkling
20. Ganondorf

"Realistic":

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1. Mario
2. Donkey Kong
3. Link
4. Samus
5. Kirby
6. Fox
7. Pikachu
8. Peach
9. Bowser
10. Zelda
11. Ganondorf
12. Pokemon Trainer (Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard)
13. Ice Climbers
14. Marth
15. Pit
16. Sonic
17. Ness
18. Jigglypuff
19. Inkling
20. Ridley

 

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Mario:

1) Mario/Luigi (alt costumes)

2) Peach/Daisy (alt costumes)

3) Bowser

 

Legend of Zelda:

4) Link (Breath of the Wild)

5) Zelda/Sheik (transforms)

6) Ganondorf (Hyrule Warriors version)

 

Metroid:

8) Samus

9) Ridley

 

Fire Emblem:

10) Marth/Ike/Roy/Lucina (alt costumes, merged moveset using Marth as a base with Ike's Aether replacing Dolphin Slash, among other changes)

11) Robin

12) Azura

13) Edelgard

 

Pokemon:

14) Pokemon Trainer (Pikachu, Greninja, Decidueye, Charizard)

15) Giovani (Meowth, Nidoking, Garchomp, Mewtwo)

 

Xenoblade:

16) Shulk

 

Donkey Kong:

17) Donkey Kong

 

Kirby:

18) Kirby

 

Kid Icarus:

19) Pit

 

Star Fox:

20) Fox/Falco/Wolf (alt costumes)

 

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I'm gonna post two different ones, one being a traditional reboot, with safer and more responsible choices, and the other being the Smash game I would make for myself.

  • Mario
  • Bowser
  • Peach
  •  
  • Link
  • Sheik
  • Ganondorf
  •  
  • Pikachu
  • Any current gen starter
  •  
  • Kirby
  • Dedede
  •  
  • Marth
  • Edelgard
  •  
  • Samus
  • Fox
  • Captain Falcon
  • Donkey Kong
  • Villager
  • Pit
  •  
  • Sonic
  • Megaman

Now my game, I just want FE characters, plus other Nintendo characters that fit the fantasy RPG theme. No third party. I don't know how I would name this game, but Super Smash Bros probably won't fit. Characters split with the "/" are costumes with different voice lines, assuming I'm allowed to do that. If not, the character on the left takes priority.

 

  • Marth/Lucina
  • Celica/Robin
  • Ike
  • Black Knight
  • Edelgard
  •  
  • Link
  • Ganondorf
  • Zelda/Hilda
  • Sheik
  • Cia/Lana
  •  
  • Pit/Dark Pit
  • Medusa
  • Palutena
  • Hades
  •  
  • Shulk
  • Pneuma
  •  
  • Isaac/Felix
  • Saturos
  •  
  • Takamaru
  • Just for fun, a Pokemon gym leader who fits the fantasy RPG theme, like Koga.
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Well, this has been interesting to see. I must say, though, I'm curious as to the reasoning you all had for each individual character in your personal choice rosters, for those who took the multiple roster route. Mind filling me in?

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1. Mario 
2. Link 
3. DK 
4. Samus 
5. Pikachu 
6. Fox 
7. Ness 
8. Falcon 
9. Marth 
10. Bowser 
11. Ganondorf 
12. Sheik 
13. Kirby 
14. Mewtwo 
15. Sonic 
16. Megaman 
17. Cloud 
18. Ryu 
19. Pit 
20. Wario

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It isn't too late to post, is it?

Realistic: 

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1) Mario - Obviously.

2) Luigi - The most iconic player 2 character.

3) Peach

4) Bowser - Of course they're going to favour the Mario franchise.

5) Donkey Kong

6) Yoshi

7) Fox

8) Samus

9) Captain Falcon

10) Link

11) Pikachu

12) Pokemon Trainer - Basically three extra reps for Pokemon. Just change up the Pokemon.

13) Marth

14) Zelda

15) Shulk

16) Villager

17) Pit

18) Kirby

19) Inkling

20) Either Ness or Mr Game and Watch

Personal 

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1) Mario

2) Donkey Kong

3) Yoshi

4) Link

5) Zelda

5) Fox

6) Falco

7) Samus

8) Captain Falcon

9) Lucas

10) Pokemon Trainer

11) Mewtwo

12) Ice Climbers

13) Marth

14) Roy

15) Ike

16) Robin

17) Kirby

18) Snake

19) Sheik

20) Inkling

 

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As a personal choice:

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1) Adult Link
2) Bowser
3) Little Mac
4) Kirby
5) Donkey Kong
6) Luigi
7) Rosalina & Luma
8) Captain Falcon/Ganondorf
9) Zelda
10) Pit/Dark Pit
11) Marth/Lucina
12) Charizard
13) Shulk
14) Sonic
15) Snake
16) Ice Climbers
17) King K. Rool
18) Roy/Chrom
19) Fox/Falco
20) Cloud

 

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On 7/3/2018 at 7:37 AM, Etheus said:

Mario:

1) Mario/Luigi (alt costumes)

2) Peach/Daisy (alt costumes)

3) Bowser

 

Legend of Zelda:

4) Link (Breath of the Wild)

5) Zelda/Sheik (transforms)

6) Ganondorf (Hyrule Warriors version)

 

Metroid:

8) Samus

9) Ridley

 

Fire Emblem:

10) Marth/Ike/Roy/Lucina (alt costumes, merged moveset using Marth as a base with Ike's Aether replacing Dolphin Slash, among other changes)

11) Robin

12) Azura

13) Edelgard

 

Pokemon:

14) Pokemon Trainer (Pikachu, Greninja, Decidueye, Charizard)

15) Giovani (Meowth, Nidoking, Garchomp, Mewtwo)

 

Xenoblade:

16) Shulk

 

Donkey Kong:

17) Donkey Kong

 

Kirby:

18) Kirby

 

Kid Icarus:

19) Pit

 

Star Fox:

20) Fox/Falco/Wolf (alt costumes)

 

I'd like to make a few changes:

 

Legend of Zelda

6) Ganondorf (Hyrule Warriors version, Wind Waker version as costume)

 

Metroid:

8) Samus/Dark Samus/Sylux (alt costumes)

 

Fire Emblem:

10) Lord (Marth, Ike, Roy, Chrom, Lucina, Leif, Eirika, and Seliph as costumes, no recolors)

11) Mage (Robin, Celica, and Micaiah as costumes, no recolors, unique spell animations with same effects for each)

12) Paladin (Xander, Sigurd, Eliwood, and Seth as costumes, no recolors)

13) War Cleric (Edelgard, Lyssa, and Libra as costumes, no recolors)

 

As a note, sequels would get additional FE classes:

Swordmaster (Lyn, Ryoma, Navarre, Joshua)

Warrior (Hector, Charlotte, Dorcas)

Lancer (Ephraim, Nephenee, Dimitri)

Archer (Takumi, Innes, Claude, Louise)

Rogue (Sothe, Jaffar, Heather)

Singer/Dancer (Azura, Ninian, Reyson, Olivia, all unarmed) 

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Fun idea.

Personal choice:

I can't lol

 

Realistic choice:

Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Donkey Kong
Yoshi

 

Link
Ganondorf
Captain Falcon
Mr. Game & Watch
Pikachu

 

Samus
Kirby
Marth
Fox
Ness

 

Wario
Pokémon Trainer
Mewtwo
Pit
Ike

 

But you can replace the last 5 with the following characters if you don't want a Nintendo exclusive:

Sonic
Pac-Man
Mega Man
Ryu
Cloud
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