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1 hour ago, Magnificence Incarnate said:

Basically he's being very aggro and the stuff he's saying against me makes no sense. Especially the part where I'm not playing OC like NOC or the part where I didn't call him out on his self meta, which is  ???? Feels very agenda heavy.

Bro

You threw down a vote on Snike because of stuff other people told you in OC, and had to backpedal after people posted logs, to justify why.

How on earth can you be town when you:

  • are/were admiteddly avoiding the thread
  • throwing down a vote and building a case on stuff that you never even bothered to share when you -did- vote
  • don't even seem like you checked votals when placing your vote on Snike in the first place (referring to #1)
    • If he was at L-1 (due to a mayor or something) and you hammered a town!snike, your justification would have been impossible to argue out of, implying that you knew votals well enough to comfortably place a vote down on Snike without needing to look at anything.
    • Town has no real reason to share votals with players in OC because it's assumed that they need to monitor that information themselves, while scum has free reign to check on votals on each other's behalf before actions and votes get committed
  • You're not responding to cases in public as to why you think people are scum unless it's convenient for you behind the scenes. You shouldn't need that much time to respond to stuff, if you're town and instinctively just reacting to things that are happening
    • You finally responded to me being scummy in your eyes because I'm being aggro about you, and because of the part where I criticized you for being scummy (the not responding to my self-meta thing). If people do stuff to generate reactions, and reactions don't happen, especially from the people that said reactions are intended/expected to have come from, that speaks volumes.
53 minutes ago, EvanManManMan said:

Damn this shit juicy with content. I think it looks really bad for Elie and good for you on an individual level. Like these logs completely disprove the "Marth is scum for contradiction" point and I kinda saw this as what was happening despite having no insight on the situation.

I'm not so sure that you read the half dozen parts where I called him out for either being scum or doing scummy stuff? 

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2 minutes ago, Elieson said:
  • If he was at L-1 (due to a mayor or something) and you hammered a town!snike, your justification would have been impossible to argue out of, implying that you knew votals well enough to comfortably place a vote down on Snike without needing to look at anything.

Marth i forget, were you in Fayz, where that shit literally happened to me?

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1 hour ago, Athena_57 said:

##Unvote

##Vote: Elieson

I want to say I don't just think the logs look bad for Elieson, but also good for Marth, making me swap the two in order of scumreads.

You should share how you think either of the above thoughts

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17 minutes ago, Elieson said:

but also good for Marth

I don't even personally care why you think it looks bad for me (though the game deserves to know) but I, myself, want to know what here looks good for Marth.

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FAYZ MAFIA NEVER FORGET RIP IN SPAGHETTI

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that's a good point though elie wrt FAYZ and makes me feel a little better about your slot 

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2 hours ago, Brooklyn said:

Evan bothers me with potential White Knighting of KTS and tunnelling on Elie, but the KTS interaction is a clusterfuck of nonsense to me and there are safer lynches today. He's also been at least active in pushing cases and not staying on the sidelines, which I would prefer over Phoenix's nothingness and Athena's defensiveness / waffling. 

 

I told Gaius this but while Evan's whiteknighting is noted and definitely happened, the timing suggests that it isn't a true hard defense, because there was virtually no pressure i nthe way of votes on him to get off. It wasn't saving him from much. It's a scummy action with non-scummy timing.

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I think Elie looks better than athena here. Who is athena on discord?

I looked through several logs marth sent me and I don't think it looks bad for him. I thought the convo I had him with was pretty decent, so I wont be voting there.

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[2:58 PM] woopons: TELL ME ALL UR SCUMBUDDIES
[2:58 PM] woopons: U HAVE 5 SECONDS
[2:59 PM] woopons: OR YOULL BE VISITED BY THE PGO TONIGHT
[2:59 PM] woopons: I DONT CARE IF YOURE ASKEEP
July 18, 2018
[2:50 AM] bluedoom: Hi
[2:56 AM] bluedoom: Hmu when you're on
[1:13 PM] woopons: What
July 19, 2018
[12:09 AM] woopons: is your opinion on this game?
[12:10 AM] bluedoom: Hi
[12:10 AM] bluedoom: Eli is scum
[12:10 AM] bluedoom: Refa too
[12:10 AM] bluedoom: And cam
[12:10 AM] woopons: y tho
[12:11 AM] bluedoom: Eli because he had an aggressive case on me and told me I'm scummy for not posting itt
[12:11 AM] bluedoom: And not calling him out for his self meta
[12:11 AM] bluedoom: Refa because he voted me but didn't even talk to me which is ???
[12:12 AM] bluedoom: Cam because his elijah case is opportunistic
[12:12 AM] woopons: Are you ok with being lynched
[12:14 AM] bluedoom: Quite obviously not
[12:14 AM] woopons: But like, how not ok?
[12:14 AM] woopons: on a scale from 1-10
[12:14 AM] bluedoom: 10
[12:15 AM] woopons: wow that's really high
[12:15 AM] woopons: i'm at like a 3
[12:16 AM] bluedoom: Lol
[12:17 AM] woopons: are you serious about really not wanting to be lynched
[12:17 AM] woopons: it doesn't feel that way
[12:21 AM] woopons: Man i'd feel bad if you were really a 10 and were town
[12:24 AM] bluedoom: Uh I signed up for this game to get carried
[12:24 AM] bluedoom: Lol
[12:24 AM] bluedoom: I'll obviously feel bad if I get lynched lol
[12:24 AM] bluedoom: But I'm just talking to people seeing what they say about each other
[12:25 AM] woopons: who else are you talking to?
[12:32 AM] bluedoom: Blitz/eli/cam/iris/eclipse/kts/brooklyn/snike/shinori/acid
[1:01 AM] woopons: you've talked to sb too?

convo with marth ^

Spoiler

[1:55 PM] Elieson: Bam
[1:57 PM] woopons: What did you want to talk about?
[1:57 PM] reinfleche: how's the weather???
[1:59 PM] Elieson: I
[1:59 PM] Elieson: have threee Q
[1:59 PM] Elieson: uestions
[1:59 PM] Elieson: 1
[1:59 PM] Elieson: I wanted to know what your original claim for scum to reach out to you menat
[1:59 PM] Elieson: i wanna hear it from you, not from people interpreting you
[2:24 PM] woopons: Depends
[2:24 PM] woopons: If you’re scum then I’m scum
[2:25 PM] woopons: And we need to organize
[2:25 PM] woopons: Asap
[2:25 PM] Elieson: i almost wish I was scum
[2:25 PM] Elieson: then the tradition of Elie being scum in every SFMM game ever, would continue to exist
[2:25 PM] Elieson: I get the feeling that you're actually an ITP that's just looking for a side to side with, which doesn't intimidate me
[2:26 PM] Elieson: and applaud your risktaking as nobody goes out on a limb like that anymore
[2:26 PM] woopons: Ok if you’re not scum then it was a bait of course
[2:26 PM] Elieson: gdi
[2:26 PM] Elieson: i wanted you to be like
[2:26 PM] Elieson: a vivor
[2:26 PM] woopons: Yeah no one really does risk stuff as scum anymore
[2:27 PM] Elieson: i do on bulba
[2:27 PM] woopons: Which is why I believe brooklyn
[2:27 PM] Elieson: faked masons as scum
[2:27 PM] Elieson: that was fun
[2:27 PM] woopons: Next level
[2:27 PM] Elieson: no
[2:27 PM] Elieson: next level is
[2:27 PM] Elieson: i jankilled my own partner
[2:27 PM] Elieson: who was on the lynch wagon for the next day
[2:27 PM] Elieson: to back up my mason claim
[2:27 PM] Elieson: and faked an OC log
[2:28 PM] Elieson: that the game believed
[2:28 PM] woopons: Lmao well played
[2:28 PM] Elieson: yea
[2:28 PM] Elieson: that was fun
[2:28 PM] Elieson: the other fun was mole'ing into the game as godfather hijacker
[2:28 PM] Elieson: and redirecting the town psychiatrist, to the itp!sk
[2:28 PM] Elieson: converting them to survivor
[2:28 PM] Elieson: then forcing them to scumside with a bullet to their head
[2:29 PM] woopons: Dirty
[2:29 PM] Elieson: BUT YEA horn tooting aside
[2:29 PM] Elieson: I hoped there was more to your gambit
[2:29 PM] Elieson: and wanted to hear it from you
[2:29 PM] Elieson: so thx for the clarity
[2:29 PM] Elieson: NUMBER TWO
[2:29 PM] Elieson: who is Elijah to you
[2:29 PM] Elieson: an Eli knockoff I know, but srsly
[2:29 PM] woopons: I’m pretty sure he’s kts
[2:29 PM] Elieson: ?
[2:30 PM] woopons: Killthestory
[2:30 PM] woopons: Haven’t confirmed
[2:30 PM] Elieson: i
[2:30 PM] Elieson: don't get it
[2:30 PM] Elieson: is that a person
[2:30 PM] Elieson: or a term
[2:30 PM] woopons: Yeah he’s a player
[2:30 PM] Elieson: OH
[2:30 PM] Elieson: ok
[2:30 PM] Elieson: a different name
[2:31 PM] woopons: Yeah
[2:31 PM] woopons: Is that what you were asking?
[2:33 PM] Elieson: nah
[2:33 PM] Elieson: it was more
[2:33 PM] Elieson: like
[2:33 PM] Elieson: have yo utalked to him
[2:33 PM] Elieson: Cam posted a big shpeal about a weird interaction we had and i didn't kow if he talked to you yet
[2:33 PM] woopons: He sent me a message
[2:34 PM] woopons: But discord died
[2:34 PM] woopons: And we haven’t made the mod chat
[2:36 PM] Elieson: ok
[2:36 PM] Elieson: valid
[3:02 PM] woopons: What was your third q
[3:03 PM] Elieson: i forgot
[3:03 PM] Elieson: tbh
[3:03 PM] woopons: Nice

convo with elie ^

out of the two i much prefer marth; elie is being real proactive and trying to figure out stuff; marth felt more like he was coming up with good answers

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After more complaints about the originally announced deadline change on discord than the amount of people who actually wanted it changed, we're switching back to the originally announced time, 7 PM EST, or 2 hours 31 minutes from this post.

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While we're at it, small votal update (only 1 vote actually changed but whatever)

Ampharos (1): acidphoenix
SB (1): Shinori
Elieson (5): EvanManManMan, Iris, Omega, Marth, Athena_57
Marth (3): Elieson, Snike, Weapons
Athena_57 (3): eclipse, Via, SB
Killthestory (1): CT075
acidhoenix (1): Brooklyn

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29 minutes ago, WeaponsofMassConstruction said:

[12:09 AM] woopons: is your opinion on this game?
[12:10 AM] bluedoom: Hi
[12:10 AM] bluedoom: Eli is scum
[12:10 AM] bluedoom: Refa too
[12:10 AM] bluedoom: And cam
[12:10 AM] woopons: y tho
[12:11 AM] bluedoom: Eli because he had an aggressive case on me and told me I'm scummy for not posting itt
[12:11 AM] bluedoom: And not calling him out for his self meta
[12:11 AM] bluedoom: Refa because he voted me but didn't even talk to me which is ???
[12:12 AM] bluedoom: Cam because his elijah case is opportunistic

Woah woah woah marth

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I'm about to go to work phase ends in like an hour and a half or something and between marth/elie I'd rather lynch Marth I think.

I think I'd rather go elsewhere though like phoenix/Refa/SB but I doubt two of those will happen.

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4 hours ago, Elieson said:

I'm not so sure that you read the half dozen parts where I called him out for either being scum or doing scummy stuff? 

I did and I found them either not impactful or wrong. Like not acknowledging the thread is an honest mistake. Not something scummy. Almost every push you have made this game has been opportunistic.

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Hey everyone were no lynching and I'm proving my role! Double win! 

##Unvote: 

##Vote: SB

 

We need to make sure that I am leading SB by exactly one vote or else I die! We don't want that. This will force the deathproof SB to get lynched, cancelling it out. 

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