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4 minutes ago, dyachei said:

you're being played then

 

I honestly forgot acid was playing. Would rather lynch elie/omega. Acid a good third wagon.

Sounds like you've made up your mind regarding Omega, which isn't a good way to convince me of anything.

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33 minutes ago, Snike said:

basically omega let's call the silencer a roleblocker for the purpose of this experiment. According to thread it's both but this way is less confusing.

dyachei was roleblocked on n1.

D2 was oc.

dyachei was not roleblocked n2.

D3 is noc.

Funny coincidence. Could it be that those two things are linked?

this only somewhat goes out the window if it's an x-shot thing but I'm not ready to lget it go yet.

OK. What are your other reads and why?

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I still don't get your point or why/how that could/would make dya a wolf. You're suggesting what, wolves have some kind of power that links the silencer with the "make it NOC" or something? Weapons got hit by the silencer/roleblocker instead N2, so...?

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13 minutes ago, Killthestory said:

because the only reason people dropped their townreads on him is because he's inactive

that's a pretty piss poor reason to scumread someone who's otherwise been townie. 

I don't remember him being very townie, the only remarkable thing I've seen from him is the Dya stuff, which I disagreed with but am now pondering about. I guess I'm still unconvinced, but can see why town!him might be? I'd say he's null, but amongst the nulls I expect more of.

Idk, the whole Marth thing feels like an inflated activity read to me alongside some minor actual good reasons to scumread him, whilst I'm actually pinged by Elieson but he feels a bit more like he could be being scapegoated? I could see myself voting either, but can't say I really like this situation.

##Vote: Elieson

I need to sleep on this. Not married to this vote by any stretch. Omega, I haven't reanalyzed the chatlogs you linked yet, will do so later.

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15 minutes ago, Elieson said:

DANGIT I HAD A POST GET EATEN. Short version, you get, because i'm heading home from work now.

1: I don't feel like your vote on me right now is a vote intended on lynching scum. It reads more like you're applying pressure, which has me wondering what your other reads are. Assuming I am scum, where else you looking next? Last thing I remember about your scumthoughts was Athena, for that one line in #Main.

2: You've been inactive in the main gamechat for quite some time; hence me wondering why you haven't chimed in. Being inactive in thread is one thing, but being inactive in both public areas is another. 

3: I had a three but have legitimately forgotten what it was as I was summarizing my 1 and 2. ugh

Once again, your response is utterly lacking.  You're one of multiple lynch candidates (as evidenced by this thread), and my vote shows my preference on who I want lynched.  Who else I think is scum will depend on what role you flip.  Now that the town is somewhat organized, I'm putting more weight into roles.

If you're that worried about my reads and whatnot, you could always PM me on SF (someone pulled this off), since our time zones are awkward.  The fact that you're throwing shade, without proactively trying to do something about it while you had the chance, is scummy.

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1 minute ago, Omega. said:

Our fearless leader.

hey man i signed up for OC which is a lot easier to play for like 10 minutes at a time and then ignore for hours

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3 minutes ago, Ampharos said:

hey man i signed up for OC which is a lot easier to play for like 10 minutes at a time and then ignore for hours

See you're my type of player, I like doing the same shit as village...except in NOC lmao.

I think the group chat I linked earlier is more interesting but for completions' sake here's my Refa log: https://pastebin.com/PzJKDQGT

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Refa changed the channel name: SFMM5- RefacheiLast Saturday at 10:31 PM

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:32 PM

 
 
love the name
 

 

reinflecheLast Saturday at 10:35 PM

 
 
refa is good at conversation naming
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:35 PM

 
 
i caught thtat
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:42 PM

 
 
[7:17 PM] elijah: dyachei wagon or bust [7:21 PM] Refa: id do it over me tbh but not now [7:22 PM] elijah: can you develop this for me? [7:22 PM] Refa: k Consider yourself in the process of being solved
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:43 PM

 
 
lol
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:43 PM

 
 
IM DETERMINING YOUR ALIGNMENT, DYACHEI!:sob::wave: ██]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 10% complete..... ████]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 35% complete.... ███████]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 60% complete.... ███████████] 99% complete..... :no_entry_sign:ERROR!:no_entry_sign::100:True:100: Scumbuddies are irreplaceable :sparkling_heart:I could never delete a scumbuddy!:sparkling_heart: Send this to ten other :family:mafia:family: who give you :dagger: night kills :dagger: Or never get called :man: obvious town :woman: again:x::x::grimacing::grimacing::x::x: If you get 0 back: you're out of the circle :no_entry_sign::no_entry_sign::imp: 3 back: you're lynchproof for the day :police_car::no_entry_sign: 5 back: you get to take a pocket townie back home :kissing_cat::angel::sweat_drops: 10+ back: town leader sheet:stuck_out_tongue::stuck_out_tongue::two_hearts::two_hearts::GWfroggyPepoThumb::GWfroggyPepoThumb:
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:43 PM

 
 
what the fuck am I reading?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:43 PM

 
 
GAME WINNING STRATS
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:44 PM

 
 
memeing for the win?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:44 PM

 
 
it works in joke games, why not real ones as well :thinking:
 
 
 
but really, we should probably talk because i have no idea what you've been up too
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:45 PM

 
 
i cant see why it wouldnt
 
 
 
yeah, I've been having a rough time talking to like
 
 
 
20 people i hardly know
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
don't you know a lot of the offsite people?
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
i know yolo best
 
 
 
have played like
 
 
 
2-3 games with the others?
 
 
 
oh
 
 
 
and amphy
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
which ones?
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
i know him better
 
 
 
evan, kts
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
aha
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:47 PM

 
 
i know of elie
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:47 PM

 
 
yeah, elie is the bulbagarden goat
 
 
 
and here he's a huge slacker :joy:
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:47 PM

 
 
lol
 
 
 
i think I've tried talking to like half the game?
 
 
 
the person I was talking with the most subbed out
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:47 PM

 
 
that's fine for d1
 
 
 
by d3 is when you should have talked to most of the game
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
ok
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
(i don't know your oc experience)
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
i have played OC before on SDN (home site)
 
 
 
but our OC aren't unlimited?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
how does that work?
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
like you can only talk to like 5 people total usually
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
oh
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
when you sign up
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
that sounds a lot less stressful
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:49 PM

 
 
everyone is in a group of like 4-5
 
 
 
and you can only OC with them
 
 
 
unless a role allows
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:49 PM

 
 
makes sense
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:49 PM

 
 
so this is different
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:50 PM

 
 
gonna assume it'll take some time to read new people but what are your reads on yolo/evan/kts/ampharos
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:50 PM

 
 
so i didnt like evan d1
 
 
 
was leaning wolf
 
 
 
and then talked to him EOD
 
 
 
and he shared a lot more of his thought process there
 
 
 
and it looked better than his public stuff
 
 
 
KTS I'm not sure
 
 
 
his obnoxiousness has been scummy in the past? so I'm not sure what that's about
 
 
 
yolo think he's town
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:51 PM

 
 
brb for a few getting in car
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:51 PM

 
 
ok
 
 
 
yolo prob town based on claims this morning
 
 
 
amy has been way more active than I've ever seen him as a wolf
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:52 PM

 
 
oh, i thought he was joking
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:53 PM

 
 
why would he joke?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:53 PM

 
 
it’s yolo
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:54 PM

 
 
why joke instead of fake claim i guess?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:56 PM

 
 
well fakeclaim implies scum
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
why does it have to?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
i think it’s not alignment relevant
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
FPS is a thing
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
FPS?
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
fancy play syndrome
 
 
 
people who do things like claim cop
 
 
 
when they arent
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
sorry i’ll parse your reads but on phone
 
 
 
oh
 
 
 
that’s also possible but claiming he was gonna he nk doesn’t like
 
 
 
do anything except make him look good
 
 
 
*the nk
 
 
 
phoneposting :GWjojoKillMe:
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:59 PM

 
 
ok
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 11:00 PM

 
 
someone told me
 
 
 
you're really good at this game
 
 
 
so who do you think are the wolves?
 
 
 
and why
 
 
 
feel free to take your time. I'm gonna go get some sleep
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 11:02 PM

 
 
okay, will do
 

 
July 22, 2018
 
 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:36 PM

 
 
https://pastebin.com/fnD475mJ Here are my overall reads, would be cool if we could bounce off the few people you did talk too so I can see where your head is at. I'm pretty busy for the next few days and would prefer not to spend all of my free time on mafia though, so uh...yeah
 
 

 

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Welcome to the beginning of the SFMM5- Refachei group.

 
Refa added reinfleche to the group.Last Saturday at 10:31 PM

 
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Refa changed the channel name: SFMM5- RefacheiLast Saturday at 10:31 PM

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:32 PM

 
 
love the name
 

 

reinflecheLast Saturday at 10:35 PM

 
 
refa is good at conversation naming
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:35 PM

 
 
i caught thtat
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:42 PM

 
 
[7:17 PM] elijah: dyachei wagon or bust [7:21 PM] Refa: id do it over me tbh but not now [7:22 PM] elijah: can you develop this for me? [7:22 PM] Refa: k Consider yourself in the process of being solved
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:43 PM

 
 
lol
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:43 PM

 
 
IM DETERMINING YOUR ALIGNMENT, DYACHEI!:sob::wave: ██]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 10% complete..... ████]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 35% complete.... ███████]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] 60% complete.... ███████████] 99% complete..... :no_entry_sign:ERROR!:no_entry_sign::100:True:100: Scumbuddies are irreplaceable :sparkling_heart:I could never delete a scumbuddy!:sparkling_heart: Send this to ten other :family:mafia:family: who give you :dagger: night kills :dagger: Or never get called :man: obvious town :woman: again:x::x::grimacing::grimacing::x::x: If you get 0 back: you're out of the circle :no_entry_sign::no_entry_sign::imp: 3 back: you're lynchproof for the day :police_car::no_entry_sign: 5 back: you get to take a pocket townie back home :kissing_cat::angel::sweat_drops: 10+ back: town leader sheet:stuck_out_tongue::stuck_out_tongue::two_hearts::two_hearts::GWfroggyPepoThumb::GWfroggyPepoThumb:
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:43 PM

 
 
what the fuck am I reading?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:43 PM

 
 
GAME WINNING STRATS
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:44 PM

 
 
memeing for the win?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:44 PM

 
 
it works in joke games, why not real ones as well :thinking:
 
 
 
but really, we should probably talk because i have no idea what you've been up too
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:45 PM

 
 
i cant see why it wouldnt
 
 
 
yeah, I've been having a rough time talking to like
 
 
 
20 people i hardly know
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
don't you know a lot of the offsite people?
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
i know yolo best
 
 
 
have played like
 
 
 
2-3 games with the others?
 
 
 
oh
 
 
 
and amphy
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
which ones?
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
i know him better
 
 
 
evan, kts
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:46 PM

 
 
aha
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:47 PM

 
 
i know of elie
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:47 PM

 
 
yeah, elie is the bulbagarden goat
 
 
 
and here he's a huge slacker :joy:
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:47 PM

 
 
lol
 
 
 
i think I've tried talking to like half the game?
 
 
 
the person I was talking with the most subbed out
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:47 PM

 
 
that's fine for d1
 
 
 
by d3 is when you should have talked to most of the game
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
ok
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
(i don't know your oc experience)
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
i have played OC before on SDN (home site)
 
 
 
but our OC aren't unlimited?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
how does that work?
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
like you can only talk to like 5 people total usually
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
oh
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
when you sign up
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:48 PM

 
 
that sounds a lot less stressful
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:49 PM

 
 
everyone is in a group of like 4-5
 
 
 
and you can only OC with them
 
 
 
unless a role allows
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:49 PM

 
 
makes sense
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:49 PM

 
 
so this is different
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:50 PM

 
 
gonna assume it'll take some time to read new people but what are your reads on yolo/evan/kts/ampharos
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:50 PM

 
 
so i didnt like evan d1
 
 
 
was leaning wolf
 
 
 
and then talked to him EOD
 
 
 
and he shared a lot more of his thought process there
 
 
 
and it looked better than his public stuff
 
 
 
KTS I'm not sure
 
 
 
his obnoxiousness has been scummy in the past? so I'm not sure what that's about
 
 
 
yolo think he's town
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:51 PM

 
 
brb for a few getting in car
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:51 PM

 
 
ok
 
 
 
yolo prob town based on claims this morning
 
 
 
amy has been way more active than I've ever seen him as a wolf
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:52 PM

 
 
oh, i thought he was joking
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:53 PM

 
 
why would he joke?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:53 PM

 
 
it’s yolo
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:54 PM

 
 
why joke instead of fake claim i guess?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:56 PM

 
 
well fakeclaim implies scum
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
why does it have to?
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
i think it’s not alignment relevant
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
FPS is a thing
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
FPS?
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
fancy play syndrome
 
 
 
people who do things like claim cop
 
 
 
when they arent
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 10:57 PM

 
 
sorry i’ll parse your reads but on phone
 
 
 
oh
 
 
 
that’s also possible but claiming he was gonna he nk doesn’t like
 
 
 
do anything except make him look good
 
 
 
*the nk
 
 
 
phoneposting :GWjojoKillMe:
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 10:59 PM

 
 
ok
 

 

dyacheiLast Saturday at 11:00 PM

 
 
someone told me
 
 
 
you're really good at this game
 
 
 
so who do you think are the wolves?
 
 
 
and why
 
 
 
feel free to take your time. I'm gonna go get some sleep
 

 

RefaLast Saturday at 11:02 PM

 
 
okay, will do
 

 
July 22, 2018
 
 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:36 PM

 
 
https://pastebin.com/fnD475mJ Here are my overall reads, would be cool if we could bounce off the few people you did talk too so I can see where your head is at. I'm pretty busy for the next few days and would prefer not to spend all of my free time on mafia though, so uh...yeah

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:37 PM

 
 
ok
 
 
 
what do you mean by this
 
 
 


Forming reads in OC is harder as scum, so this is a stronger tell than it would otherwise be.
 
 
 
like all reads?
 
 
 
village reads?
 
 
 
wolf reads?
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:38 PM

 
 
all reads
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:38 PM

 
 
ok
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:38 PM

 
 
because you have less information as scum than you normally would, so you can only react to things naturally
 
 
 
which is...hard
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:39 PM

 
 
ok
 
 
 
i mean, I think acid might be a wolf
 
 
 
i haven't talked to themthough
 
 
 
they just have a lack of impact
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:40 PM

 
 
yeah, that's why i'm not as sure about them but like
 
 
 
i feel worse about that slot than other low impact ones
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:41 PM

 
 
i don't really want to get into the details on amy
 
 
 
because it has to do with my claim
 
 
 
but I think they are town
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:41 PM

 
 
aha
 
 
 
fair enough
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:42 PM

 
 
like the way he reacted to my claim
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:42 PM

 
 
huh
 
 
 
what do you mean?
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:43 PM

 
 
my claim is a little unusual
 
 
 
and I think scum would have pushed me more
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:43 PM

 
 
fair enough
 
 
 
i just wish they talked to me more, honestly, but that's probably on me as well
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:43 PM

 
 
athena talked to me about their claim
 
 
 
lemme see if i can pull the log for you
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:44 PM

 
 
why you?
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:44 PM

 
 
er
 
 
 
not claim
 
 
 
vote
 
 
 


Athena_57 - Last Thursday at 5:12 PM
like, I dont like my elie vote either
But I like snike/marth better
dyachei - Last Thursday at 5:12 PM
i kind of forgot snike is playing
i mean, I think I knew it on some level
Athena_57 - Last Thursday at 5:13 PM
I havent spoken to him after early game
dyachei - Last Thursday at 5:13 PM
but he's not a player that even comes to mind when thinking about who to talk to
Athena_57 - Last Thursday at 5:13 PM
but early game conv felt good
and the wagon on him was eh
so I'm townreading him slightly
dyachei - Last Thursday at 5:13 PM
ok
Athena_57 - Last Thursday at 5:14 PM
I haven't spoken to Marth 1 on 1 but the logs look genuine
dyachei - Last Thursday at 5:14 PM
what about euklyd? i havent really seen anything from there
Athena_57 - Last Thursday at 5:14 PM
nothing at all
haven't spoken to them
Haven't heared anyone talk to them
about them I mean
dyachei - Last Thursday at 5:14 PM
yeah
Athena_57 - Last Thursday at 5:15 PM
I'll say I don't hate the idea of Brooklyn to just go for someone in the shadows
these wagons are just eh
dyachei - Last Thursday at 5:15 PM
brooklyn hasn't really been in the shadows for me
Athena_57 - Last Thursday at 5:15 PM
no I mean acid
brooklyn wanted to get acid
dyachei - Last Thursday at 5:16 PM
oh
right
Athena_57 - Last Thursday at 5:16 PM
'nah, I'm townreading brooklyn hard
dyachei - Last Thursday at 5:16 PM
ok good
Athena_57 - Last Thursday at 5:17 PM
Now I was just saying I didn't like my elie vote
But his thread post attacking marth just now
I'm not sure I like it
Like, are we not allowed to scumread cam?
 
 
 
like I like the way he questions his reads here
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:45 PM

 
 
OH
 
 
 
if he didn't like his elie vote a lot more, that explains a lot
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:46 PM

 
 
yeah, exactly
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:46 PM

 
 
my impression was that he thought it was the most scummiest person at the time from brooklyn logs
 
 
 
but that makes more sense, it'd explain why he's okay w/voting acid
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:47 PM

 
 
he's not really like
 
 
 
talking about his thoughts in thread or anything
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:47 PM

 
 
i guess he'd be null for me now, because there's nothing that makes me feel better about him, but i don't have lika
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:47 PM

 
 
you have to prod him for it
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:47 PM

 
 
any issues with the slot
 
 
 
aha
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:47 PM

 
 
which isn't great
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:47 PM

 
 
well, it happens in oc
 
 
 
that doesn't really bother me
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:47 PM

 
 
ok
 
 
 
i've got him at slight positive
 
 
 
blitz is strong town for me
 
 
 
his reaction to the KTS stuff when I brought it up to him was good
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:48 PM

 
 
why that
 
 
 
can you link it?
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:50 PM

 
 


dyachei - Last Wednesday at 2:05 PM
yeah, I get that
have you been keeping up with the game?
Blitz - Last Wednesday at 2:12 PM
Not entirely
Somewhat tho
dyachei - Last Wednesday at 2:13 PM
i'm sure you know about elijah's thing?
Blitz - Last Wednesday at 2:14 PM
No clues...
I did not read anything for about 24 hours
dyachei - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
ah ok
he's basically setting up groups of 3
and telling people to get reads on 2 people of his choice
Blitz - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
Interesting...
dyachei - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
yeah
i'm not really sure how to feel about it
Blitz - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
I cant see it as bad?
dyachei - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
I would feel more that way if he were sharing things
but I think he hasn't with anyone outside of maybe yolo and evan?
as it is, he's asking for info without providing much and I could see a wolf doing this to do something without making reads, I guess. But on the other hand, him gathering info might be ok depending on what he does
Blitz - Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
I guess?
I was thinking, if people get better reads on 2 other people
and it's not role related
the only thing that can happen is he acts on it and helps a good lynch
or does not act on it
and we think he is just trying to seem useful
dyachei - Last Wednesday at 2:40 PM
yeah, but for me personally, I don't usually do as well when it's not organic
Blitz - Last Wednesday at 2:40 PM
or he can lie about it and then people can also attack him on that?
dyachei - Last Wednesday at 2:40 PM
i mean, that's possible?
like i said, I'm mixed on it
Blitz - Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
I see
I don't really think it's a bad idea
unless he wants people to limit interaction to only 2 people
and give people free passes for talking to only 2 people?
 
 
 
i'm not sure I agree on cam
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:52 PM

 
 
yeah, that's a good read from blitz
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:52 PM

 
 
but like
 
 
 
i havent talked to them much
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:52 PM

 
 
tbh with cam, a lot is just also
 
 
 
i'd expect him to be less productive as scum
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:52 PM

 
 
ok
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:52 PM

 
 
since he's usually lazy or spends his time shitposting as scum
 
 
 
i guess that's noc meta but yeah
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:53 PM

 
 
yeah, I just dunno there
 
 
 
talk to me about elie more?
 
 
 
like I have no idea where to start there
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:54 PM

 
 
well, his reads tend to be nonsensical as both alignments but as town you can like
 
 
 
understand how he came to have that opinion
 
 
 
and it fits in with his past actions
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:54 PM

 
 
i just
 
 
 
i havent talked to him
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:54 PM

 
 
but as scum he just throws reads out of nowhere and abandons them
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:54 PM

 
 
but yeah
 
 
 
i just havent really got any feel for him
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:54 PM

 
 
yeah, you said as much
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:54 PM

 
 
if i were reading a random person
 
 
 
with his posts
 
 
 
I'd be reading them as scum
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:55 PM

 
 
you should talk to him, it's better to get a read off of him from interacting imo
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:55 PM

 
 
yeah
 
 
 
my reaction to euklyd is the same as yours
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:55 PM

 
 
idt his posts are really great from an impartial pov ya, it's just something i can see him doing as town
 
 
 
lmao
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:56 PM

 
 
ok
 
 
 
on evan
 
 
 
let me get you some logs
 
 
 
and let me preface it by saying
 
 
 
he's an asshole as any alignment
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:57 PM

 
 
okay
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:57 PM

 
 


DaRealEvan - Last Thursday at 9:25 PM
I also thought that the way that KTS reached out to all players and assigned them tasks was very towny, although slightly counterproductive
As mafia, kill is more self centric and would not be as open to interact with others
It also demonstrates him wanting to be a leader
I think his socialness is very towny and somewhat out of his mafia wheelhouse

I mean, the point that scum could be doing what KTS is doing is fair I guess, but it's just doubt and not really anything specific
So I know KTS pretty well
I think that KTS was taking an approach to the game that he wouldn't as mafia
Being trust nobody, solve the game asap
I don't think as mafia, he is social in one way and uptight in another
Like he shared his true reads with me, and they aren't what he told others
Not to say that all of what he said is a lie
But he's withholding a portion of the truth
And keeping that to a select few
And I think that is more likely to be town than not

Like as mafia
He has no benefit from being extremwly social
Like he set up so many relations
And ways to be townread
That I don't think he would take the other route and be secretive

Like KTS isn't necessarily lying
Some of thoughts correlated with what he told me was the definite truth
While others did not
He's not trying to be a hindrance by concealing information
He has a plan
I have no idea what it is, but KTS doesn't do things like this for no reason
I don't think gaining associations is impossible when you know his thoughts
But I have that knowledge so I'm slightly biased from that stance
Like he has an agenda, but it's not a scum agenda
It's just kinda like, an agenda
With no other ways to describe it
I do think that his plan will become clear soon
So it's in a sense, a matter of time
But I don't think he is scum doing what he is doing right now
Holy hell that was aids to copy
 
 
 
this feels like he's actually thinking about shit
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:59 PM

 
 
where did he copy that from
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 12:59 PM

 
 
i think talking to someone else
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 12:59 PM

 
 
aha
 
 
 
yeah, i think the thought process there is good like i definitely agree w/it
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:00 PM

 
 
and I say that having had a scum lean on him d1
 
 
 


dyachei - Last Thursday at 9:27 PM
i mean, agendas aren't always towny though
DaRealEvan - Last Thursday at 9:27 PM
I don't think it's a scum agenda
I said that in my post
Like it's so unclear and I don't think it would be so foggy if he was scum
dyachei - Last Thursday at 9:28 PM
ihave him as a slight town, but see...the issue is that you didnt talk about this
so I had nothing to read you off of
DaRealEvan - Last Thursday at 9:31 PM
Fair enough
I'm not used to having to share thoufhts across many communication fields
And copying is hard because lol!mobile
It also doesn't help that not many people have reached out ot me individually to try and sopve me
dyachei - Last Thursday at 9:33 PM
i keep forgetting some people are playing the game
so
it's hard to keep up with 20 other people
DaRealEvan - Last Thursday at 9:33 PM
Ye
I have a tighter circle I like to deflect off of
Find it much better
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 1:00 PM

 
 
from my understanding, he's pretty close w/kts so i'd expect a hard townread regardless of alignment (assuming kts town). i don't think it really convinces me though on his alignment cause i haven't seen him put anywherenear the same amount of effort into his scumreads, which is telling for me
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:01 PM

 
 
yeah
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 1:01 PM

 
 
also his thing w/shinori pinged me cause it felt like he was trying to make shinori look bad
 
 
 
despite the claim being obvious town imo
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:02 PM

 
 
like i said
 
 
 
he's an ass as both alignments
 
 
 
so iris
 
 
 
we talked but none of it was very involved
 
 
 
I have a soft spot because they reached out to me early
 
 
 
and I hardly know you guys
 
 
 
but i think I couled lynch there
 
 
 
agree on kts and marth
 
 
 
marth's pms were good imo
 
 
 
not sure on yolo because he hasn't said all that much imo
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 1:05 PM

 
 
yeah, i'll take that into account wrt evan
 
 
 
i haven't talked to iris as well, so yeah
 
 
 
did you dm marf? can you link me that
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:06 PM

 
 
i've talked to her
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 1:06 PM

 
 
yolo is just cause i feel like i'm usually good at reading him
 
 
 
and i only have a few hangups there
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:06 PM

 
 
trying to find
 
 
 


dyachei - Last Thursday at 9:46 AM
hey
bluedoom - Last Thursday at 9:48 AM
Hi
Wassup
dyachei - Last Thursday at 9:48 AM
I keep seeing this wagon on you
and there's not much in public areas from you
so I kind of want to see for myself if I think you're a wolf or not
talk to me about the thing that started the wagon?
bluedoom - Last Thursday at 9:48 AM
I think I'm getting voted for my snike vote and that's it
dyachei - Last Thursday at 9:49 AM
why though?
it hasn't really made a lot of sense
bluedoom - Last Thursday at 9:49 AM
People think that I've been opportunistic with my Snike vote
But my vote was based on
dyachei - Last Thursday at 9:49 AM
do you know why they think that?
bluedoom - Last Thursday at 9:50 AM
What Snike did in the game chat
I got info from shinori that Snike had challenged walrein's claim to town leader
But after our conversation in the game chat
Snike said that he had backed off from his claim to town leader
Which means he only claimed that he had a provable role to show that its not town leader worthy
This felt like a claim meant to undermine walrein
dyachei - Last Thursday at 9:51 AM
do you still think that?
bluedoom - Last Thursday at 9:52 AM
I didn't vote him immediately because I didn't know where votes were
But then
I talked to Sb about Shinori's case on him
And realized that they were talking about votes in the thread
So I think I'm being scum read for my timing as well?
Ftr I don't think that snike is scum rn
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 1:08 PM

 
 
aha
 
 
 
yeah, i'm not bothered by that
 
 
 
ftr snike only partially claimed to shinori
 
 
 
so idt that holds for a scumread
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:08 PM

 
 
i think his response is well thought out
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 1:11 PM

 
 
ya, im just saying i dont agree snike is scum for the claim thing
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:12 PM

 
 
i think snike is really low impact
 
 
 
maybe he's talked to you some
 
 
 
but i havent seen much
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 1:15 PM

 
 
he hasn't talked to me much at all
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:16 PM

 
 
i had a gut feel sb was town
 
 
 
havent talked to shinori much
 
 
 
don't like snike rn for reasons we discussed
 
 
 
brook was town
 
 
 
via is shrug
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 1:17 PM

 
 
makes sense
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:17 PM

 
 
weapons is shrug
 

 

RefaLast Sunday at 1:18 PM

 
 
weapons i feel the same way as from acid, but i'm not as confident there
 

 

dyacheiLast Sunday at 1:19 PM

 
 
that's basically where I am

 


 

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36 minutes ago, Omega. said:

I still don't get your point or why/how that could/would make dya a wolf. You're suggesting what, wolves have some kind of power that links the silencer with the "make it NOC" or something? Weapons got hit by the silencer/roleblocker instead N2, so...?

this is taking it too obtuse.

dyachei was not blocked n2.

Therefore,dyachei could've enacted the ability n2.

as for reads rn i am still sitting on my marth read as scum from d1

i feel like blitz and euklyd in particular haven't done much and that worries me a little.

athena's still town, I'm p sure town leads are in the clear let's see who else

i think iris was leaning v from talking to her but I don't have non-mobile access to discord rn to postlogs.

that's about it that comes off of the top of my head rn.

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1 hour ago, Snike said:

basically omega let's call the silencer a roleblocker for the purpose of this experiment. According to thread it's both but this way is less confusing.

dyachei was roleblocked on n1.

D2 was oc.

dyachei was not roleblocked n2.

D3 is noc.

Funny coincidence. Could it be that those two things are linked?

this only somewhat goes out the window if it's an x-shot thing but I'm not ready to lget it go yet.

You're an idiot

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What stood out most to me about the dyachei/Refa logs was her calling me V off me claiming to have been the N1 kill. When she started OMGUSing pushing me today, she asked me about the N1 kill. So she has mentally latched onto that would-be claim when evaluating my slot.

Is it villagery or null? That's kind of a weird angle to take as a wolf.

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elie's focus on eclipse is weird cuz to my knowledge there are other players who haven't had huge presence in the public chats either? why eclipse specifically when there's like, acid and blitz?

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I don't mean this as a defense of eclipse but what's up with this being the only thing elie's really talking about today

coupling that with the defensiveness wrt "if you guys think I'm casting shade fuc u" without much else to offer is very thinkingemoji. who else do you think is scum?

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9 minutes ago, Omega. said:

What stood out most to me about the dyachei/Refa logs was her calling me V off me claiming to have been the N1 kill. When she started OMGUSing pushing me today, she asked me about the N1 kill. So she has mentally latched onto that would-be claim when evaluating my slot.

Is it villagery or null? That's kind of a weird angle to take as a wolf.

I'll admit, it's stuck with me about you. But I did think d1 you were ok. You just haven't done anything since then

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1 hour ago, Killthestory said:

refa placed a vote on marth after this vote count. with snike tied, elieson up there, and marth now tied, it seems like it wouldn't be a bussing inclined move. yet, refa quickly unvotes stating, "i want to talk to him first." 

this raises a number of questions.

a. can refa not talk to marth while his vote is on him? 

b. is refa uncomfortable with having a vote on marth?

c. why does refa want to talk to marth before a vote but not anyone else? 

this is a weird interaction if you go below the surface level. this is in an opposite vein to elie who may look weird on paper, but that's because nobody ever considers that elie would comments like this about refa. 

sorry, but i'm not buying it. 

you're an idiot

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