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3 minutes ago, eclipse said:

I did.  Notice how Cam has said very little to Refa, despite the length of the conversation?  He was in info-gathering mode with me as well.

So, your conversation with him was pretty much the same then? Cause if his Refa conversation isn't fundamentally different from his others I suppose it's a good look, regardless of whether being the one asking the questions is inherently townie or scummy.

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22:56] Camdar: also
[22:56] Camdar: what does refa have to do with the shitshow
[22:56] Camdar: unless it's just "the evanblock is voting him"?
[22:57] sb: kinda that and also i thought there was role things but i dont know where exactly things are going
[22:57] sb: or went rather
[22:57] sb: so my theory there was based on outdated info and disproven i think
[22:57] sb: but he's still like
[22:57] sb: scummy individually and not scum with evan
[22:57] sb: but athena is the play today i think
[22:57] sb: for the weird fail + other roles we know
[22:57] Camdar: you think it's more likely that athena is lying about a fail?
[22:58] Camdar: why is that more likely than evan
[22:59] sb: athena has only really played this game when pressured and been a disaster on a reads level
i beleive evan's claim is real
also for athena to be town he has to have been hooked
[22:59] sb: which is like
[22:59] sb: it didnt come from town
[22:59] sb: if that happened
[23:00] sb: this shit is awful bc im working with almost no time on incomplete info
[23:01] Camdar: i believe in you town leader
[23:01] sb: im glad someone does
[23:08] Camdar: when where and why did athena claim
[23:08] sb: to town leader: joat with comparsion cop/bus driver/hijacker
[23:08] sb: to brooke d1 iirc
[23:09] Camdar: when did they claim action
[23:09] Camdar: privately again?
[23:09] sb: yes
[23:09] sb: they were told to do that action ftr
[23:09] Camdar: ok
[23:10] sb: i think its more likely athena
[23:10] sb: is scum
[23:10] Camdar: im just thinking
[23:10] Camdar: why like about it
[23:10] Camdar: that seems like such a simple thing to fake
[23:10] sb: i guess?
[23:10] Camdar: like idk
[23:11] Camdar: athena hasn't been great
[23:11] Camdar: i just don't see why scum!athena risks lying
[23:12] sb: thats like
[23:12] sb: the only thing keeping me
24 July 2018
[00:13] Camdar: i will say privately
[00:13] Camdar: that i was townreading refa for most of D2
[00:14] Camdar: I don't think town refa completely implicates evan
[00:14] Camdar: but refa felt genuine in my chats with him
[00:14] Camdar: it's probably too late to change course now though
[00:15] sb: he contacted me now and idk
[00:15] sb: refa i mean
[00:15] sb: i hate this game bc i have reasons to doubt everything
[00:15] Camdar: cd
[00:15] Camdar: xd
[00:15] Camdar: same
[00:28] Camdar: question
[00:28] Camdar: did KTS claim mayor
[00:28] Camdar: at any point
[00:28] sb: yes but i assumed it was fake
[00:28] sb: bc brooke
[00:29] Camdar: mmmmmmmmk
[00:29] Camdar: so
[00:29] Camdar: that isn't
[00:29] Camdar: what they claimed to me
[00:29] sb: what did they claim?
[00:29] sb: honestly i dont want to talk to them rn so
[00:29] Camdar: they told me they were voteless
[00:30] Camdar: when they were trying to get me onboard for turboing refa d1
[00:32] sb: https://pastebin.com/PyFifKc0
Pastebin
[00:07] Refa: [4:01 PM] Camdar: apparently SB is leader now  [4:01...

[00:32] sb: what do you think of this
[00:34] Camdar: did you just send me my own log
[00:34] Camdar: oh wait jk
[00:34] Camdar: i see
[00:37] Camdar: seems pretty standard?
[00:37] Camdar: idk
[00:37] Camdar: it feels like the rest of my conversations with refa
[00:37] Camdar: at least
[00:38] sb: do you think it looks like scum or
[00:39] Camdar: I think that log makes sense as either alignment
[00:39] sb: or more like
[00:39] sb: yeah
[00:39] Camdar: in general refa reads like frustrated town to me
[00:39] Camdar: but that's all gut
[00:39] sb: i havent read the town part this game but
[00:39] sb: oc is hard
[00:39] sb: and i wish i didnt ask to lead
[00:39] sb: lmao
[00:40] Camdar: x d
[00:46] Camdar: holy hell
[00:46] Camdar: i forgot
[00:46] Camdar: that blitz
[00:46] Camdar: was in this game
[00:46] Camdar: at all
[00:46] sb: i've talked to him
[00:46] sb: he was trying to play mafia while driving so i'd believe he's town
[00:46] Camdar: uh
[00:46] Camdar: ok
[00:46] sb: thats onlypartly a joke but
[00:46] sb: i think he's prob town on reads
[00:48] Camdar: mmk
[00:49] sb: i'll talk more about it with you later theres an ongoing eimm thing thats taking up attention too
[00:50] Camdar: k
[00:58] Camdar: lmao
[00:58] Camdar: refa claiming SK
[00:58] Camdar: i think
[00:58] Camdar: that is quite possibly the spiciest possible outcome
[01:11] Camdar: ecks dee
[01:12] Camdar: looks like i was WRONG
[01:14] sb: u have no idea how relieved i was to see that
[01:14] Camdar: same, tbh

Basically I don't think scum!Cam writes of Athena here when I'm totally willing to murder him over  Refa. He had every opportunity to push me that way but instead he kinda sinks Refa indirectly which makes me think town!Cam here.

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4 minutes ago, Athena_57 said:

So, your conversation with him was pretty much the same then? Cause if his Refa conversation isn't fundamentally different from his others I suppose it's a good look, regardless of whether being the one asking the questions is inherently townie or scummy.

Somewhat.  I decided that conversations are a two-way street, and did some question-asking of my own.  IMO it didn't amount to much in terms of content, but I feel better about Cam because of it.  However, it's a personal read, because I know my alignment, while the rest of you would have to trust me.

3 minutes ago, SB. said:

 

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Basically I don't think scum!Cam writes of Athena here when I'm totally willing to murder him over  Refa. He had every opportunity to push me that way but instead he kinda sinks Refa indirectly which makes me think town!Cam here.

 

That tells me how Cam read me during our convo.  Thanks~!

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@SB.

Here are the logs I was talking about RE: Blitz, do you feel this is something scum!him can easily fake? This is basically what's keeping me from commiting to 10%luck

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Blitz19/07/2018
ah, I see
I hope you don't mind me voting you...
I am not fully scumreading you anymore
but I am scumreading you over the other 2
Athena_5719/07/2018
That seems similar to my own thoughts on elie
All these wagons suck
snike and marth are prob tow
town*
Blitz19/07/2018
tbh, if I had talked to enough people, I might have made a better judgement or pick...
Athena_5719/07/2018
I think I'm going to swap to acid tbh
cause at least they're nullish
sadly they havent responded to my questions
Blitz19/07/2018
I am gonna follow Lyn and go for the NL

Context: This conversation took 5 minutes, he voted me after his middle post, then went for no lynch after the last one.

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Less than an hour and a half.  I'm going to cook lunch.  I should be back before phase end. . .like, 15 minutes before phase end.

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I'm on mobile and don't have time to post my logs but I have significant cam and athena logs

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##unvote

who are we lynching I'm at work I have 10 mins

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the only people I haven't really talked thst much to were blitz and iris

I wasn't really involved with the refa lynch d2 and I wasn't entirely convinced he was scum either but so many people were focused on him it turned my brain off trying to really figure him out (and I was very behind) we did talk a little but not a lot and I forgot to contact iris again after she told me she was watching movies with friends 

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Hitmonleet (5): Omega, weinerboy, Weapons, killthestory, Athena
Elieson (2): dyachei, Sully
dyachei (1): Snike
Killthestory (1): Marth
eclipse (1): Elieson
Hitmonleet (1): SB
Athena (1): Iris
Snike (1): Evan

About 1 hour 15 minutes left in the phase

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I think it's a stretch to say I'm ignoring people on purpose so I have an excuse to scum read them cuz if that were true the only person that fits that is iris, I've talked both to athena and weapons, and my dialogue with marth in thread today was me trying to figure him out a little

blitz was just a huge unknown, and now he's someone else and the game is in noc now so

I probably got a little too frustrated when I realized people could get away without posting in the thread this game

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I talked to cam with the intention of figuring him out too and part of why he thinks marth is scum is he thinks marth's case on him is scummy but I can't pull the log out on mobile atm

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6 minutes ago, Paperblade said:

Hitmonleet (5): Omega, weinerboy, Weapons, killthestory, Athena
Elieson (2): dyachei, Sully
dyachei (1): Snike
Killthestory (1): Marth
eclipse (1): Elieson
Hitmonleet (1): SB
Athena (1): Iris
Snike (1): Evan

About 1 hour 15 minutes left in the phase

there are 2 hitmonleet wagons?

@Paperblade

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I dunno if you'd call thst omgus or what

literally the only reason I'm torn on cam is the way he reacted to refa flipping scum and the way he treats that but again I was trying to ask earlier I think it got lost, did cam ever publicly react to refa flipping scum or is it something he's only ever expressed in private cuz he could easily be faking it if it's the latter

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4 minutes ago, EvanManManMan said:

@Omega. what happened to your secret villager that scum couldn't know about Blitz?

10% Luck posted.

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