California mass Shooting

[Tryhard]

"We have less, actually, homicide than every other country in the developed and undeveloped world. All because 1A and 2a."

i figured i'd just quote you because you're the biggest argument against any concept of american superiority.

(fox news is not reputable, but their polls still need to reflect some semblance of the actual answers they got)

Edited November 17, 2018 by Tryhard

[CapnStix]

America IS superior to every country. No holds barred. Not even close. America is miles ahead in everything but "gender laws" and education. White people aren't any better, on average (though it can be argued), than every other race. But our countries and cultures? Miles ahead of besides Japan. The waifu age is upon us, my friends. Speaking of, Japan is homogeneous. Most people are Japanese ethnically, in Japan. As in not white. But no one complains that Japanese people are a racist hellhole. How come it's only not okay when whitey does it?

Everyone is equal in America. Yet regressive idiots still chant for more affirmative action. As in, are openly racist. Black people are strong, but they need help. Same with women. America hates wah-men now. Yup. We live in a fresh hell. But hey, social justice is sooooooooooooo totally good. Good thing, because sarcasm is violence in Australia. "misgendering" people in Canada and Britain can easily land you in jail. Because of non-existing "hate speech". Let's curtail freedom to be you in exchange for protecting feelings. Of less than 5% of the global population, on "trans" rights alone.How anyone can champion that, is beyond any logical and sane person. It's about being nice?

That isn't fair, though. Equality of Opportunity is good. Of outcome is regression. Societal suicide. All because bad person use gun so gun are bad.

[ChefGuevara]

Not even gonna touch the rest of that post but uh...education is kind of a vital pillar of society, man

cant be the greatest country without good education 

[CapnStix]

4 minutes ago, ChefGuevara said:

Not even gonna touch the rest of that post but uh...education is kind of a vital pillar of society, man

cant be the greatest country without good education 

It can easily be argued that it isn't as important as you claim. It probably IS, but it's also likely that it might not be. We have Marxism teaching children, on top of "you are special". That isn't a recipe for success. Especially the colleges. Can't be mean there. You realize, once you detach yourself from group think, that feeling isn't important. I mean, at all. That's why "toxic masculinity" is a thing. Because being a man is bad and being a woman is good. As it stands, as well as history supporting this, don't go to college. Leftist ideals made the Nazi party. They are dangerous. And as such, it'd be child abuse to subject your children to this. Letting children believe non-binary people are real, and that gender is a spectrum (hint: They aren't)? I'd rather leave my future children with a Catholic priest.

[Raven]

1 hour ago, CapnStix said:

America IS superior to every country. No holds barred. Not even close. America is miles ahead in everything but "gender laws" and education. White people aren't any better, on average (though it can be argued), than every other race. But our countries and cultures? Miles ahead of besides Japan. The waifu age is upon us, my friends. Speaking of, Japan is homogeneous. Most people are Japanese ethnically, in Japan. As in not white. But no one complains that Japanese people are a racist hellhole. How come it's only not okay when whitey does it?

Everyone is equal in America. Yet regressive idiots still chant for more affirmative action. As in, are openly racist. Black people are strong, but they need help. Same with women. America hates wah-men now. Yup. We live in a fresh hell. But hey, social justice is sooooooooooooo totally good. Good thing, because sarcasm is violence in Australia. "misgendering" people in Canada and Britain can easily land you in jail. Because of non-existing "hate speech". Let's curtail freedom to be you in exchange for protecting feelings. Of less than 5% of the global population, on "trans" rights alone.How anyone can champion that, is beyond any logical and sane person. It's about being nice?

That isn't fair, though. Equality of Opportunity is good. Of outcome is regression. Societal suicide. All because bad person use gun so gun are bad.

You bring a whole new definition to the term "shit post." Taking you seriously isn't even worth the time or effort.

[CapnStix]

If reality is shit post, then I loathe what you live in, Raven.

[ChefGuevara]

57 minutes ago, CapnStix said:

It can easily be argued that it isn't as important as you claim. It probably IS, but it's also likely that it might not be. We have Marxism teaching children, on top of "you are special". That isn't a recipe for success. Especially the colleges. Can't be mean there. You realize, once you detach yourself from group think, that feeling isn't important. I mean, at all. That's why "toxic masculinity" is a thing. Because being a man is bad and being a woman is good. As it stands, as well as history supporting this, don't go to college. Leftist ideals made the Nazi party. They are dangerous. And as such, it'd be child abuse to subject your children to this. Letting children believe non-binary people are real, and that gender is a spectrum (hint: They aren't)? I'd rather leave my future children with a Catholic priest.

again, just gonna try to take this stuff one thing at a time

if the nazis were left wing, what was the night of long knives? 

[CapnStix]

15 minutes ago, ChefGuevara said:

again, just gonna try to take this stuff one thing at a time

if the nazis were left wing, what was the night of long knives? 

Done by Nazis. Literally.

[ChefGuevara]

they killed every left wing member of the party they could, man 

what leftists would do that?

[CapnStix]

23 minutes ago, ChefGuevara said:

they killed every left wing member of the party they could, man 

what leftists would do that?

Ones like Himmler. Collectivism. As in, we're all the same. Which is identity politics. Y'know, "no true citizen" kinda stuff.

Collectivism is Marxism and all forms and variations of Marxism are bad. I mean, Venezuela going socialism and then everyone but the uber rich being in poverty.

Edited November 17, 2018 by CapnStix

[Tryhard]

bUt tHe nAzIs wErE rEalLy lEfT-wInG

[CapnStix]

Beautiful. Proving your ignorance by self-admittance. Works every time.

People say Nazi and fascist a lot. Doubt they know the means. Same with my favorite word. A word, which a few letters off of a racial slur. The word, like every word, only holds power over the weak.

Case in point; only a niggard would not question their education.

[ChefGuevara]

34 minutes ago, CapnStix said:

Ones like Himmler. Collectivism. As in, we're all the same. Which is identity politics. Y'know, "no true citizen" kinda stuff.

Collectivism is Marxism and all forms and variations of Marxism are bad. I mean, Venezuela going socialism and then everyone but the uber rich being in poverty.

I'm pretty sure that the nazis would have been the last ones to believe that we were all the same, dude

So Venezuela's economic failures have nothing to do with an over-reliance on oil, or corruption? As soon as they pressed the socialism button, everything exploded, despite Venezuela being one of the wealthiest countries in Latin America just a few decades ago? 

[Tryhard]

15 minutes ago, CapnStix said:

Beautiful. Proving your ignorance by self-admittance. Works every time.

People say Nazi and fascist a lot. Doubt they know the means. Same with my favorite word. A word, which a few letters off of a racial slur. The word, like every word, only holds power over the weak.

Case in point; only a niggard would not question their education.

i mean if you're going to be a dumbass that won't take any source that is given because it's obviously going to be either facts that don't compute or from "academic sources" which are automatically liberal, then what's the point, regardless of the fact that i really doubt you have any good faith if you're not just trolling outright

i could be playing bingo here, feminism is bad, literally give me every gun including automatics and explosives, america is great and can do no wrong, venezuela bad, nazis are actually left wing, muh judeo-christian values

can we get some other basic increasingly unpopular right-wing talking points like gay marriage, abortion and smoking marijuana is immoral? and that there should be no separation of church and state and the US should be a theocracy?

and yeah, america does have a higher homicide rate than most european countries except Ukraine (which is a warzone) and Russia (Eastern European countries generally being less democratic and also less safe in general). i know you're not actually going to look at it, but you can observe here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

[CapnStix]

3 minutes ago, ChefGuevara said:

I'm pretty sure that the nazis would have been the last ones to believe that we were all the same, dude

So Venezuela's economic failures have nothing to do with an over-reliance on oil, or corruption? As soon as they pressed the socialism button, everything exploded, despite Venezuela being one of the wealthiest countries in Latin America just a few decades ago? 

Because they're functionally retarded, like Obama, but that doesn't stop. Oh no sirree. Not for "progress", good feels and social justice. To even think that fairness was, is and will be worse than equality of opportunity is a crime coming from the antifa "fuck white people they need to die" party. When you masquerade as the thing you're supposedly against, it's fucking delicious. Irony is not their strongsuit.

Ethnic cleansing, aka gassing jews, is that mentally deficient leftist mind set, firing on full cylinders. You "never go full retard", capiche? That, llke Nazi and Marxist ideals, are all "for the working class" is disgusting, as it only makes dull and rich people to happy. Guess what, neither have guns. Neither have a protected freedom of speech guaranteed by their country. That's hilarious. Just like putting planned parenthood centers in urban areas. Hindsight is a curse, I swear.

[Pixelman]

This guy is a troll. Stop responding to him.

[CapnStix]

3 minutes ago, Tryhard said:

i mean if you're going to be a dumbass that won't take any source that is given because it's obviously going to be either facts that don't compute or from "academic sources" which are automatically liberal, then what's the point, regardless of the fact that i really doubt you have any good faith if you're not just trolling outright

i could be playing bingo here, feminism is bad, literally give me every gun including automatics and explosives, america is great and can do no wrong, venezuela bad, nazis are actually left wing, muh judeo-christian values

can we get some other basic increasingly unpopular right-wing talking points like gay marriage, abortion and smoking marijuana is immoral? and that there should be no separation of church and state and the US should be a theocracy?

and yeah, america does have a higher homicide rate than most european countries except Ukraine (which is a warzone) and Russia (Eastern European countries generally being less democratic and also less safe in general). i know you're not actually going to look at it, but you can observe here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Do you even logic?

[CapnStix]

1 minute ago, Pixelman said:

This guy is a troll. Stop responding to him.

Ooooooh, you got me. Betcha know my SSN, while we're at it.

It's almost like guns ARE the problem. But they aren't.

[Sunsurge]

15 hours ago, eclipse said:

Let's take a look at your responses:

 

 

Every single post is about mental health issues, and every single post is in response to someone else.  And none pertain to the topic, which is the California shooting (yes, it wandered off, but it was just fine when you posted).  So, it's clear you have a stance - either spit it out directly, or keep it to yourself.  I don't care which one you choose.

I don't think "reactionary" is the right word to use then, you just mean I didn't technically address the California shooting itself, even though my last post was talking about mental health in relation TO the California shooting (and the person who did it having PTSD), which IS a mental health issue. So I'm not really sure how they don't pertain to the topic.

Any topic about a shooting invariably involves talking about how it happened (PTSD - mental health) as well as our inane lack of gun control in the states. I don't really think I was dancing around my stance at all. I think we need better gun control and I don't think we need to derail shooting conversations into mental health ones because that doesn't fix the blanket issue. Hence my responses to others who immediately went to mental health.

The California shooting would have been less likely to happen if we had better gun control. Not exactly a complicated thing to gather from my posts.

[Jotari]

6 hours ago, Tryhard said:

for other peoples benefit:

america has 4-5x the homicide rate and higher general crime rates than most european countries, many of who either ban firearms completely or restrict them heavily. please talk more about how less guns equals more crime.

perhaps you'll be inclined to point out that it is not any one thing that may help, and you'd maybe be right - but mental health facilities and support are also fucking terrible in america. if nothing else, having more guns than citizens in the US has not done anything to help. this is something that even fox news polls are getting from conservatives about possible gun control alternatives:

(the only inherently "conservative" position here is putting armed guards in schools)

you seem like you have a bad case of feelings over facts, actually. please continue to talk about race when no-one else was and then complain about us vs them identity politics. there is always proof that some people of every race are definitely not intelligent, and i'm seeing one here.

to all else: consider ideas when things are going wrong. the shootings in america are abnormal for a first world country. regular people are beginning more and more to see this and are considering ideas like the above as favorable even if they are staunchly conservative and pro gun ownership. remember that your politicians have done comparatively nothing.

I don't believe any country in Europe bans guns completely. As far as I know the only country that has a complete blanket ban on all guns under all circumstances is North Korea.

[Integrity]

1 hour ago, Pixelman said:

This guy is a troll. Stop responding to him.

correct, and he's banned now, cheers reporters

 

EDIT: whoops i made the warn out like i was the last person to warn him which i wasn't, oh well.

Edited November 18, 2018 by Integrity

[Jotari]

6 hours ago, CapnStix said:

America IS superior to every country. No holds barred. Not even close. America is miles ahead in everything but "gender laws" and education. White people aren't any better, on average (though it can be argued), than every other race. But our countries and cultures? Miles ahead of besides Japan. The waifu age is upon us, my friends. Speaking of, Japan is homogeneous. Most people are Japanese ethnically, in Japan. As in not white. But no one complains that Japanese people are a racist hellhole. How come it's only not okay when whitey does it?

 

Bad example buddy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_issues_in_Japan

You're really just showing off your ignorance with everything you say. Have you ever evenbleft America and seen how the rest of the world lives?

EDIT: I see they've been banned. Probably the only reasonable course of action at this stage. Still, I'm quite sure they're a troll who feel proud of the ban for sticking it to "the radical leftist site" (which we are absolutely not). Oh well, on with the civil discussion.

Edited November 18, 2018 by Jotari

[ChefGuevara]

I had seen some other posts of that guy's, they seemed pretty genuine, so I figured he wasn't just trolling, honestly. Just, you know, crazy.

[Jotari]

47 minutes ago, ChefGuevara said:

I had seen some other posts of that guy's, they seemed pretty genuine, so I figured he wasn't just trolling, honestly. Just, you know, crazy.

Well either way, it doesn't seem like discussing the issue wkth them would achieve anything other than vitriol.

[Tryhard]

2 hours ago, Jotari said:

I don't believe any country in Europe bans guns completely. As far as I know the only country that has a complete blanket ban on all guns under all circumstances is North Korea.

fair, though guns in some of those countries require such good reasoning that they are prohibited to most people. and in the UK for example, self-defense is usually not accepted as a reason.

Edited November 18, 2018 by Tryhard