Koumal8 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, daisy jane said: 3: While hoarding orbs for PoR/RD you'd still have to beat the RNG ;) After reading all your replies, this is what scares me the most: what if I hoard 500+ (315 atm, started playing casually 2 months ago so I still have most Blessed Gardens/CCs/Squad Assaults) and then I get screwed over? Also, I'm not hoarding for RD, I'am hoarding for JILL and none else, so what if shes's not even on the banner? Or what if they do double Gren Jill+Nolan? Friggin scary to think about... I'll take your suggestion and wait until the Legendary banner comes around, I may decide to like only hoard 300 orbs and spend all the spare ones I can get... 22 hours ago, silveraura25 said: If you want Chill Spd, get it. One of the best skills fast blue units can get. If you don't have any fast blue, don't get it. It works really well on blue melee horses and fliers, who don't have access to Wrath. EDIT: To clarify, there are a decent number of blue units and a lot of red units that are fast. Green is regarded as a rather slow color, because a majority of units in that category have low to middling speed. You will be able to make the most out of Chill Spd against blues and reds than any combination containing green I was of the opinion that generic fast offensive units (not fast tanks) wanted something like Desperation to double with no worry or Wrath to augment their damage, what's the general consensus? I thought Chills were better suited for specialized ployers/debuffers (outside of Chill Def for Brave users), like I have a fairly standard Swift Sparrow/Desperation/Mulagir Blyn and can't imagine running her without Desperation... (until I get Fireswepp Bow fodder at least) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlight Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Koumal8 said: After reading all your replies, this is what scares me the most: what if I hoard 500+ (315 atm, started playing casually 2 months ago so I still have most Blessed Gardens/CCs/Squad Assaults) and then I get screwed over? Also, I'm not hoarding for RD, I'am hoarding for JILL and none else, so what if shes's not even on the banner? Or what if they do double Gren Jill+Nolan? Friggin scary to think about... I'll take your suggestion and wait until the Legendary banner comes around, I may decide to like only hoard 300 orbs and spend all the spare ones I can get... I was of the opinion that generic fast offensive units (not fast tanks) wanted something like Desperation to double with no worry or Wrath to augment their damage, what's the general consensus? I thought Chills were better suited for specialized ployers/debuffers (outside of Chill Def for Brave users), like I have a fairly standard Swift Sparrow/Desperation/Mulagir Blyn and can't imagine running her without Desperation... (until I get Fireswepp Bow fodder at least) Desperation requires set-up and only works if you double (bear in mind that your opponent can get speed buffs, right now the norm for that in the score range of tier 19.5 is +6). I mentioned Chill Spd for fliers and horses so Wrath isn't an option for them. Chills are global debuffs that anyone can use well, not just high res mages with ploy ability. Chill Spd's existence is that you can actually successfully double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 9 hours ago, Koumal8 said: After reading all your replies, this is what scares me the most: what if I hoard 500+ (315 atm, started playing casually 2 months ago so I still have most Blessed Gardens/CCs/Squad Assaults) and then I get screwed over? It’s always a possibility. But it’s also possible that you spend 100 orbs each on 5 different banners and don’t get any focus units. Don’t forget that orbs are essentially casino chips. Quote Also, I'm not hoarding for RD, I'am hoarding for JILL and none else, so what if shes's not even on the banner? Or what if they do double Gren Jill+Nolan? Then you get to save orbs and wait until she gets added, or she’s the only green focus on a banner. Quote I was of the opinion that generic fast offensive units (not fast tanks) wanted something like Desperation to double with no worry or Wrath to augment their damage, what's the general consensus? I agree. It’s what Othin was talking about by alternatives. There aren’t any other skills that do what Desperation or Wrath do. Quote I thought Chills were better suited for specialized ployers/debuffers (outside of Chill Def for Brave users), like I have a fairly standard Swift Sparrow/Desperation/Mulagir Blyn and can't imagine running her without Desperation... (until I get Fireswepp Bow fodder at least) Chill skills have the same effect no matter who has it so you’d give it to someone who doesn’t want any other B-skill. If you want Lyn to debuff the enemies’ speed, you could try Speed Smoke. It’s not as good as Chill Speed, but it’s a seal so you don’t have to give up Desperation, and you can give it to someone else when you’re not using Lyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_of_Zelia Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) On 11/22/2018 at 11:04 PM, Icelerate said: This banner sold terrible compared to all the others within the past three months. I checked US, Canada and Japan and the results were the same. So you can find some satisfaction in that. I'm still probably going to summon on it. Surtr looks cool. So from these estimates, Adrift did pretty well for itself on it's first day. But Fire and Ice is the worst selling banner it looks like. But oh well, this game always had heavy hitters since day 1 that has been reaping in the cash, so this really just a small bump on the road they wouldn't even care too much about. Edited November 25, 2018 by Legend_of_Zelia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelerate Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Legend_of_Zelia said: So from these estimates, Adrift did pretty well for itself on it's first day. But Fire and Ice is the worst selling banner it looks like yeesh. But oh well, this game always have heavy hitters since day 1 has been reaping in the cash, so this really just a small bump on the road they wouldn't even care too much about. Apparently the revenue is down compared to first year according to some posters on Reddit. It made $300 million in the first year and currently in its second year it has made $150 million. After the people spent money on Adrift, the numbers dropped like a rock. Probably because the people who didn't spend on Adrift were angry enough to stop buying orbs in subsequent days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_of_Zelia Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Icelerate said: Apparently the revenue is down compared to first year according to some posters on Reddit. It made $300 million in the first year and currently in its second year it has made $150 million. After the people spent money on Adrift, the numbers dropped like a rock. Probably because the people who didn't spend on Adrift were angry enough to stop buying orbs in subsequent days. Though in all honestly, Adrift did good on it's first day despite the fandom hating it, compared to Fire and Ice's hate. I can understand numbers dropping like a rock though afterwords. The banners after it didn't really help much either since it had units a ton of people already have, then we got Fire and Ice, which is kinda of meh compared to a ton of banners. Edited November 25, 2018 by Legend_of_Zelia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyCheez3K Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Why spend on the current banner when you pull the featured units in record time? I spend 150ish orbs for three Ylgrs and a random Alm. The pull rates are very beneficial for the consumer. I feel revenue would be way weaker with that alone. Current dissatisfaction obviously doesn't help, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) On 11/22/2018 at 11:04 PM, Icelerate said: This banner sold terrible compared to all the others within the past three months. I checked US, Canada and Japan and the results were the same. So you can find some satisfaction in that. What the graph tells me is simply that there are no other recently released banners helping to buoy up sales. Not only did this banner release on the trailing end of four banners, but all three of the secondary banners were fairly lackluster. Adding to that is the fact that there are now only two concurrently running banners, which hasn't happened since the end of the Summer Fehstival in August. The spike in ranking might not have reached as high as other spikes, but it was also starting from a lower point. No, it's not quite as large of a jump as Land's Bounty, but it's hard to compare to a seasonal banner any day of the week. Then there's also the graph of Japan's ranking where the spike is very much comparable to other new character banners. The biggest problem with sales right now is not that the quality of the Fire and Ice banner but the fact that there have literally been no secondary banners worth spending money on since after the release of Adrift. Edited November 26, 2018 by Ice Dragon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zangetsu Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/22/2018 at 9:04 PM, Icelerate said: This banner sold terrible compared to all the others within the past three months. I checked US, Canada and Japan and the results were the same. So you can find some satisfaction in that. I'm still probably going to summon on it. Surtr looks cool. I'm having somewhat trouble reading those numbers but this is great to look on the reviews for the banners. Thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Jerk Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) Purchase your premium Askrvirus Firewall today! Edited November 26, 2018 by Some Jerk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Dragon Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I just had @daisy jane's Surtr appear in my castle for greetings and HOLY SHIT HE'S HUGE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy jane Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Ice Dragon said: I just had @daisy jane's Surtr appear in my castle for greetings and HOLY SHIT HE'S HUGE. hahahahaha he really is. he's in my castle standing over everyone and it's like. Gosh you are so big. I had @Tree's dorcas this morning. I get him a lot actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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