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If you have any suggestions on things I should change please tell me. I wanted to have some unique builds. I made a few changes.

Golden Deer- I am recruiting Dorothea, Annette, and Mercedes.

Byleth: Commoner -> Monk/Myrmidon -> Dark Mage/Mercenary -> Dark Bishop/Hero -> Dark Knight/Mortal Savant (Dark Mage line until I am able to recruit Mercedes and Annette.)
Annette: Noble -> Monk -> Mage -> Warlock -> Gremory
Claude: Noble -> Fighter -> Lord -> Wyvern Rider -> Wyvern Lord
Dorothea: Commoner -> Myrmidon/Dancer -> Thief/Dancer -> Assassin/Dancer -> Dancer (Thief line until Dancer class becomes available.)
Hilda: Noble -> Fighter -> Armored Knight -> Fortress Knight -> Great Knight
Ignatz: Commoner -> Fighter -> Archer -> Sniper -> Bow Knight
Leonie: Commoner -> Soldier -> Pegasus Knight -> Paladin -> Falcon Knight 
Lorenz: Noble -> Monk -> Dark Mage -> Dark Bishop -> Dark Knight
Lysithea: Noble -> Monk -> Mage -> Warlock   -> Gremory
Marianne: Noble -> Monk -> Priest -> Bishop.  -> Holy Knight
Mercedes: Commoner -> Monk -> Priest -> Bishop -> Holy Knight
Raphael: Commoner -> Fighter -> Brawler -> Grappler -> War Master

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For Byleth and the House Leaders I am going to stick with their signature weapon. As for the others, I am going to focus on Budding Talents and aim for an appropriate class. Those without a B.T. I'm just going to pick a class route based off their proficient skills.

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  • Byleth: Commoner -> Myrmidon -> Thief -> Assassin -> Mortal Savant (Optional)

 

Black Eagles

  • Edelgard: Noble -> Fighter -> Lord/Armored Kn/Cavalier -> Fortress Kn/Paladin -> Great Knight
  • Bernadetta: Noble -> Fighter -> Archer/Cavalier -> Sniper -> Bow Knight
  • Caspar: Noble -> Fighter -> Brigand -> Warrior -> War Master
  • Dorothea: Commoner -> Monk/Dancer -> Mage/Dancer -> Warlock/Dancer -> Mortal Savant/Dancer (Gremory if Budding Talent Blooms)
  • Ferdinand: Noble -> Soldier -> Cavalier/Armor Kn -> Paladin/Fortress Kn -> Great Knight
  • Hubert: Noble -> Monk -> Dark Mage/Cavalier -> Dark Bishop/Paladin -> Dark Knight
  • Linhardt: Noble -> Monk -> Priest/Cavalier -> Bishop/Paladin -> Holy Knight (Optional)
  • Petra: Commoner -> Myrmidon/Warrior -> Thief/Mercenary/Brigand -> Wyvern Rider/Assassin -> Wyvern Lord (may switch to Thief line for utility)

Blue Lions

  • Dmitri: Noble -> Soldier -> Lord/Cavalier/Priest -> Paladin -> Holy Knight (Optional) (the only "riding" class with none of his weaknesses)
  • Annette: Noble -> Monk -> Mage -> Warlock -> Gremory (Optional)
  • Ashe: Commoner -> Fighter -> Archer/Cavalier -> Sniper/Paladin -> Bow Knight
  • Dedue: Commoner -> Fighter -> Armor Kn./Brigand -> Fortress Kn./Warrior -> War Master
  • Felix: Noble -> Myrmidon -> Thief/Mercenary -> Assassin/Swordmaster -> Mortal Savant (Option only if Budding Talent Blooms)
  • Ingrid: Noble -> Soldier -> Pegasus Kn/Cavalier -> Paladin -> Falcon Knight
  • Mercedes: Commoner -> Monk -> Priest -> Bishop -> Gremory
  • Sylvain: Noble -> Soldier -> Cavalier/Mage/Dark Mage -> Paladin -> Dark Knight

Golden Deer

  • Claude: Noble -> Fighter -> Lord/Archer/Brigand/Cavalier -> Wyvern Rider/Sniper/Paladin -> Wyvern Lord/Bow Knight
  • Hilda: Noble -> Fighter -> Brigand/Armor Kn/Cavalier -> Warrior/Fortress Kn/Paladin -> Great Knight
  • Ignatz: Commoner -> Fighter/Myrmidon -> Thief -> Assassin -> Mortal Savant (Option only if Talent Blooms)
  • Leonie: Commoner -> Soldier -> Cavalier -> Paladin -> Bow Knight
  • Lorenz: Noble -> Soldier -> Cavalier/Mage/Dark Mage -> Paladin -> Dark Knight
  • Lysethia: Noble -> Monk -> Mage -> Warlock -> Gremory
  • Marianne: Noble -> Monk -> Priest/Cavalier -> Bishop/Paladin -> Holy Knight
  • Raphael: Commoner -> Fighter -> Brawler -> Grappler -> War Master
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For my first run, I think I'm gonna go Golden Deer and try to recruit as many of my favorites from the other houses as I can.

Keeping the Archer line for Claude until I know what his possible unique promotion is.
Going brigand to warrior for Hilda.
Knight class line for Raphael.
Gonna try to make Leonie a pegasus knight.
Was originally thinking of making Ignatz another archer, but seeing he has potential for reason magic, I think I'll make him a mage.
Lysiththea and Marianne are both gonna be magic users, and I'm torn between which of the two of them I'll make into a dancer, since they could both be good with swords as well.
And Lorenz gets to be a cavalier.

For recruits, in the Black Eagles, I wanna recruit Caspar, Linhardt and Petra.
Mercenary for Caspar, as while he's only neutral with swords, hero seems like a fun fit for him.
Linhardt seems like he'll make a fun dark mage.
And swordmaster for Petra.

And in the Blue Lions, I wanna recruit the trio of Felix, Sylvain and Ingrid.
Felix, both in personality and personal skill, seems like a really good fit for thief to assassin.
I /really/ wanna make Sylvain a wyvern rider. It feels like such a cool class for him, and it'd work well in pairing him up with Leonie.
And for Ingrid, I think I'll make her another cavalier.

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6 hours ago, Bk1234 said:

Lorenz: Noble -> Soldier -> Cavalier -> Paladin -> Dark Knight

I really liked this take on Lorenz but would recommend going the mage/dark mage route with him as his crest has a chance to increase might when using magic atttacks

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On 7/16/2019 at 6:01 AM, AuraPandora said:

I really liked this take on Lorenz but would recommend going the mage/dark mage route with him as his crest has a chance to increase might when using magic atttacks

Nothing's stopping us from switching back and forth between the Cavalier and Mage line.

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I find myself wondering if the master classes we know about are all of the ones that exist. The advanced classes have a lot of options that flat out don't exist in master class: a sword/bow class, axe/bow class, sword/lance riding class, sword/axe class, etc.

 

It feels like there is a lot missing that could make this theorycrafting more fun. 

 

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Where the fuck is my halberdier?

 

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1 hour ago, Bk1234 said:

@Tori Torrible Make Marianne the Dancer, it will be easier. Lysithea is bad at Swords, so it may not be worth it even if it is her hidden talent. 

Levin Swords exist in this game, there is no reason not to give Lysithea one.

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21 hours ago, Etheus said:

advanced classes have a lot of options that flat out don't exist in master class: a sword/bow class, axe/bow class, sword/lance riding class, sword/axe class, etc.

 

There's no one stopping you from wielding a Bow or an Axe as a Mortal Savant, a Bow or a Sword as a War Master, a Sword with any Riding Class etc.  

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14 minutes ago, Jayvee94 said:

There's no one stopping you from wielding a Bow or an Axe as a Mortal Savant, a Bow or a Sword as a War Master, a Sword with any Riding Class etc.  

It depends I guess a sniper is going to have their work cut out for them with bow knights being a master class. I do think some advance classes will get skills that can keep them up to pair for master classes at least initially or have some niche.

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20 hours ago, SilverArcher said:

It depends I guess a sniper is going to have their work cut out for them with bow knights being a master class. I do think some advance classes will get skills that can keep them up to pair for master classes at least initially or have some niche.

To be fair, I honestly think we can make it to the endgame without all of them being in a Master Class.

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2 hours ago, Jayvee94 said:

There's no one stopping you from wielding a Bow or an Axe as a Mortal Savant, a Bow or a Sword as a War Master, a Sword with any Riding Class etc.  

The problem is the requirements to take the exam. If you want to use a Bow or an Axe in Mortal Savant, you also have to train up skills in Swords and Reason to presumably A or B rank, just to then cast aside those high level skills and uses Bows instead. Having to level up your skills to pass an Exam means it is almost pointless to go into a class that doesn't  at least have one of your preferred weapons as a speciality. I you're going to spend a bunch of time getting your Axe and Brawling rank to A for War Master, there isn't much point in also focusing on Swords so you might as well just go for axes. So I agree with Etheus, the lack of options for all classlines is weird, though as many people have said, it is possible that Advanced classes (Aside from the fliers, and the gender exclusive upgrades) will be the same strength as the hybrid masters.

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They've already shown you don't have to have exactly what stats a class requires to change into it, it just won't have an 100% chance of passing the exam so turning someone into a bow using merc or an axe using mortal savant is still probably a viable option. And if we can save before doing the class change exam you can just save scum at lower percentages

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8 hours ago, IzzyFresh said:

Levin Swords exist in this game, there is no reason not to give Lysithea one.

True. This may actually make Lysithea the better Dancer because she is also good at Authority.

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On 7/16/2019 at 4:28 AM, Bk1234 said:

If you have any suggestions on things I should change please tell me. I wanted to have some unique builds. I made a few changes.

Golden Deer- I am recruiting Dorothea, Annette, and Mercedes.

Byleth: Commoner -> Monk/Myrmidon -> Dark Mage/Mercenary -> Dark Bishop/Hero -> Dark Knight/Mortal Savant (Dark Mage line until I am able to recruit Mercedes and Annette.)
Annette: Noble -> Monk -> Mage -> Warlock -> Gremory
Claude: Noble -> Fighter -> Lord -> Wyvern Rider -> Wyvern Lord
Dorothea: Commoner -> Myrmidon/Dancer -> Thief/Dancer -> Assassin/Dancer -> Dancer (Thief line until Dancer class becomes available.)
Hilda: Noble -> Fighter -> Armored Knight -> Fortress Knight -> Great Knight
Ignatz: Commoner -> Fighter -> Archer -> Sniper -> Bow Knight
Leonie: Commoner -> Soldier -> Pegasus Knight -> Paladin -> Falcon Knight 
Lorenz: Noble -> Monk -> Dark Mage -> Dark Bishop -> Dark Knight
Lysithea: Noble -> Monk -> Mage -> Warlock   -> Gremory
Marianne: Noble -> Monk -> Priest -> Bishop.  -> Holy Knight
Mercedes: Commoner -> Monk -> Priest -> Bishop -> Holy Knight
Raphael: Commoner -> Fighter -> Brawler -> Grappler -> War Master

I think Warlock may be a Male Only class?

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5 minutes ago, djshyguy1 said:

I think Warlock may be a Male Only class?

Dark Bishop is the male only class, warlock is open

Edit: I actually ended up finding this pic of Annette herself in the class

famitsu-027-warlock.jpg

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I've done more thinking over classes and such now that we have some recommended skill levels for master classes and I think I have my final classes for my first Blue Lions run:

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Byleth: Myrmidon->Mercenary->Hero->War Master

I'm personally assuming Byleth will have some kind of personal class that we don't know about yet come end game, however for now he'll be focusing on Swords, Axes and Brawling until we know more about any prf classes. I'm going War Master since that matches with Nemesis's look (IMO) so to me it makes sense.

Dimitri: Soldier->Cavalier->Paladin->Holy Knight

Same as Byleth, I'm waiting to see if he has any more prf classes but for now the typical horse line for him. He'll be focusing on Lances, Faith and Riding since they are all he needs for Holy Knight. I'm going Holy Knight cause it's kind of what a traditional Paladin is in RPGs and I imagine Dimitri like that.

Dedue: Fighter->Armoured Knight->Fortress Knight->Great Knight

Riding will be a bit of a struggle to get since he's weak in it however I am determined to get him to it. If all else fails, I'll just hope he passes the exam even when not at 100%. He'll be focusing on Axes, Heavy Armour and Riding.

Felix: Myrmidon->Thief->Assassin->Mortal Savant

I want a Thief for stealing and an extra lock picker alongside Ashe isn't a bad idea IMO. He'll be focusing on Swords, Bows and Reason. He's good at the former and Reason is his Budding Talent (and needed for Mortal Savant probably).

Ashe: Fighter->Archer->Sniper->Bow Knight

Very typical. He's focusing on Lances, Bows and Riding. He has a Budding Talent in Lances so might as well and it's not like there are any better options for Bow users in Master tier.

Sylvain: Fighter->Brigand->Wyvern Rider->Wyvern Lord

I was gonna go Dark Knight for him (to also see where his Reason Talent leads to) but I think having more fliers would be better. He's focusing on Lances, Axes and Flying. He was also a contender for Dancer.

Mercedes: Monk->Priest->Bishop->Gremory

I was originally gonna go Holy Knight cause the idea was nice however she's bad at Lances and even though it's only a C rank (presumably) to get to it, it's still too much effort for me tbh, alongside Riding also. Instead she'll be focusing on Reason, Faith (Gremory's strengths) and also Bows (her Budding Talent and also it would be nice to have that physical option in case her spells get used up).

Annette: Monk->Mage->Warlock->Dark Knight

The thought of this little girl going Dark Knight makes me laugh. It probably looks hypocritical since she suffers from the same problems as Mercedes, however Annette doesn't have a weakness in Lances and she doesn't have a strength in Faith either and I'm pretty sure since Gremory only has Reason and Faith, the requirement might be high for Faith. She;ll focus on Lances, Reason and Riding.

Ingrid: Soldier->Pegasus Knight->???->Falcon Knight; Dancer

I definitely want Ingrid to be a Falcon Knight and she will probably also go between being that and my Dancer. I'm not dedicating her to being a Dancer since I don't use them all that much however having one is nice. Despite having access to magic as a Dancer, I wont dabble in it since using magic just takes away from a turn you could be dancing. I don't know what class to go for in Advanced tier since I don't want her as a Wyvern Rider since that would require spending time on Axes and Swordmaster isn't really that appealing to me but I will probably go Swordmaster tbh. She'll focus on Swords, Lances and Flying. 

 

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Hidden for Length, not spoilers. My Plans for Blue Lions.

Only Blue Lions so far because they are the easiest house for canon paths imo.

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Byleth: Myrmidon - Mercenary -  Hero - War Master.

Focusing Swords, Axes and Brawling. Also Thief for when I need two lock pickers and when I need to steal, Byleth's OP anyway so their combat should be fine. Also considering Wyvern Lord if I get enough seals.

Dimitri: Soldier - Cavalier - Paladin - Canon Class most likely.

Focusing Lances, Swords and authority, but maybe riding, Faith and Bows instead. I wanted him to be mounted but since there is no direct Paladin master class so far, and I don't know if I'll have time to make him a Holy or Bow knight as I have a lot of training with other students to do, I'll have to make do. Maybe his Canon class will end up being mounted but I'm almost positive it won't be.

Dedue: Fighter - Armoured Knight and Cavalier - Fortress Knight and Paladin - Great Knight 

Focusing Axes, Lances, Riding and Armour. This or War Master and Mounted is normally better. Cavalier and Paladin re classes occasionally to try and raise his Riding rank up enough as it is a weakness. I wanted Gauntlets on him as well to make up for poor speed but my Lance and Riding training will probably take up all the time. He is on stable duty every single week.

Felix: Myrmidon and Monk - Mercenary and Mage - Swordmaster and Warlock - Mortal Savant

Focusing Swords, Brawling and Reason. What other class would work? Hopefully his hidden talent skill is useful to make the (hopefully quick) weakness removal process worth it. If I get 2 Dark Seal, I'd consider that line of magic instead but Sylvain gets first dibs, and I'll have to see the differences between them to see which is better for him. Brawling for the sweet +20 Damage with no, or damaged battalion, plus more chances to stack his crest and make use of Annette's skill.

Ashe: Fighter - Archer and Cavalier - Paladin, and Maybe Sniper if I can be fucked - Bow Knight.

Focusing Lances, Bows and Riding. Budding Talent in Lances, strength in Bows, he's perfect. Unlike some of the other candidates, I don't need to concern myself with Ashe' Riding skills because I can keep him on Horseback while still letting him use his Bows, which is the problem with most of the mage cavalier wannabe's, they can't.

Sylvain: Soldier and Monk - Cavalier and Dark Mage - Paladin and Dark Bishop - Dark Knight.

Focusing Lances, Reason and Riding. His strengths and budding talent made this obvious. I was going to make him a Wyvern lord and join Ingrid in the skies, but that budding talent Reason is too tempting to pass up. Figured I'd make him the Dark Mage as the dark Knight requirement exams mentioned something about needing B+ reason (Dark Magic). I think this might be a mistake but better safe than sorry, and again, like with Felix i'll need to see the differences until I know what's best for him.

Annette: Monk - Mage - Warlock - Gremory.

Focusing Reason, Faith and Authority. Finally, a simple one. I don't care much for giving pure mages physical weapons, but I'll keep an Axe on her just in case. I am considering the Dark knight line though, as she doesn't have a strength in Faith, and her personal skill is much more useful if she can get to more people. But that could mean one less healer (I'm still unsure if classes like Dark knight and Mortal Savant can use Faith magic and vice-versa. It seems likely that they can but I'll have to be sure, and it means even more people suffering form a severe lack of Horse training. Why cant' we let our students teach each other. Ingrid! Dimitri! Sylvain! Teach Mercedes, Dedue and Annette how to stop falling off their damn horse!!!

Mercedes: Monk - Cleric and Cavalier - Bishop and Paladin - Holy Knight.

Focusing Lances, Bows, Faith and Riding. This one is going to hurt. I love the class but Mercedes' weakness in Lances sucks. Thankfully only C rank is required, I think I can do that. The A Riding sucks though, and that's the only reason I am bothering to train her in Bows, her budding Talent. Why is that, you ask? So she can get mounted battle experience without dying from one hit!!! If Annette was to go Dark Knight I would consider Gremory for Mercedes, as it is a lot nicer and both of her strengths lie with that class. But Holy Knight sounds badass and I have a crippling addiction to mounted, physical combat healers, though I would hardly define Mercedes as such. That's would be more Dimitri. Maybe I should consider Holy Knight for him. Hmmmmm. Anyway like Dedue this automobile is spending all her free time in the stables so I hope those two find some enjoyment out of each others company (Yes I ship it)

Ingrid: Soldier - Pegasus Knight - Paladin or Nothing if I don't feel like it - Falcon Knight.

Focusing Swords, Lances and Flying. And finally, another easy choice. Only Dilemma here is can I be bothered to train yet another character in Riding just so I can have an Advanced class. I probably will in the end, but there is always the possibility I stay Pegasus knight.

And Finally, since I heard most maps allow 10 units, and you start of with 9, I shall be recruiting 1 member of staff/other character to be my Dancer. I don't want to take Students on my first playthroughs and interrupt the natural story. It might end up being Manuela as she seems perfect for the job, but I don't really care for her character so everyone is still on the board. Of course I will eventually recruit all the non - students I can, but I won't be using the adjudicant system as i never liked Pair up, and I probably won't swap out my main team for them, so apart from the dancer, they only see use if the Map limit allows it.

 

                        

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Only have the Black Eagles and Golden Deer planned out so far because I really haven't gotten that invested in the Lions so far, even with Dimitri's... everything.
 

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Eagles:
Byleth: Commoner->Monk->Mage->Warlock->Gremory (sword of the creator is a Prf so you don't need to take levels in a swordie class to wield it, and i want that feather boa)
Edelgard: Noble->Fighter->Lord->Warrior->Inevitable Lord promotion
Bernadetta: Noble->Fighter->Archer->Sniper->Bow Knight (she's got the perfect skillset for it)
Caspar: Noble->Fighter->Brawler->Grappler->War Master (it's what he deserves)
Dorothea: Commoner->Monk->Priest->Bishop->Dancer
Ferdinand: bench Noble->Soldier->Cavalier->Paladin->Great Knight
Hubert: Noble->Monk->Dark Mage->Dark Bishop->Dark Knight (could go bishop for good but this is horse emblem)
Linhardt: Noble->Monk->Mage->Bishop->Holy Knight (taking mage for those levels in reason)
Petra: Commoner->Myrmidon->Pegasus Knight->Swordmaster->Falcon Knight (poor thing with her reason deficiency can't work mortal savant to save her life)
(Recruit) Lysithea: Noble->Monk->Mage->Warlock->Mortal Savant
Deer:
Byleth: Same as before
Claude: Noble->Soldier->Cavalier->Wyvern Rider->Wyvern Lord/Prf class (his poor poor lance rank, he's the only non-mage with a deficiency in it)
Hilda: Noble->Fighter->Armor Knight->Fortress Knight->Great Knight 
Ignatz: Noble->Myrmidon->Mage->???->Dancer (he's got sword/auth/reason and Lysithea is better used in a pure offense class)
Leonie: Commoner->Fighter->Archer->Sniper->Bow Knight (No need to explain that)
Lorenz: Noble->Monk->Mage->Warlock->Dark Knight (optimal)
Lysithea: Noble->Monk->Mage->Warlock->Mortal Savant
Marianne: Noble->Myrmidon->Pegasus Knight->Paladin->Falcon Knight
Raphael: Commoner->Fighter->Armor Knight->Fortress Knight->Great Knight
(Recruit) Mercedes: Noble->Monk->Priest->Bishop->Holy Knight

 

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On 7/16/2019 at 7:28 AM, Bk1234 said:

If you have any suggestions on things I should change please tell me. I wanted to have some unique builds. I made a few changes.

Golden Deer- I am recruiting Dorothea, Annette, and Mercedes.

Byleth: Commoner -> Monk/Myrmidon -> Dark Mage/Mercenary -> Dark Bishop/Hero -> Dark Knight/Mortal Savant (Dark Mage line until I am able to recruit Mercedes and Annette.)
Annette: Noble -> Monk -> Mage -> Warlock -> Gremory
Claude: Noble -> Fighter -> Lord -> Wyvern Rider -> Wyvern Lord
Dorothea: Commoner -> Myrmidon/Dancer -> Thief/Dancer -> Assassin/Dancer -> Dancer (Thief line until Dancer class becomes available.)
Hilda: Noble -> Fighter -> Armored Knight -> Fortress Knight -> Great Knight
Ignatz: Commoner -> Fighter -> Archer -> Sniper -> Bow Knight
Leonie: Commoner -> Soldier -> Pegasus Knight -> Paladin -> Falcon Knight 
Lorenz: Noble -> Monk -> Dark Mage -> Dark Bishop -> Dark Knight
Lysithea: Noble -> Monk -> Mage -> Warlock   -> Gremory
Marianne: Noble -> Monk -> Priest -> Bishop.  -> Holy Knight
Mercedes: Commoner -> Monk -> Priest -> Bishop -> Holy Knight
Raphael: Commoner -> Fighter -> Brawler -> Grappler -> War Master

I'm siding with the Golden Deer. I was thinking of recruiting Ashe, is it worth it? His requirements are Lance and Charisma. If so, what classes should I make him?

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