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5 minutes ago, SockPuppet said:

Have all these screenshots and preview players only tried out the Black Eagles route? Is there any chance that supports are different depending on what house you chose?

The screenshots are actually from an extras bit on the main menu. So the house the person chose is irrelevant.

4 minutes ago, Nio said:

My God the exaggeration and overreaction in here is way too much.

We dont even know if those are all the gay options. Thani even said some options are big spoilers. We need to wait and see post time skip stuff and even other houses options.

CALM DOWN AND WAIT. STOP WHINING.

They're confirmed the only options. We don't necessarily know all the w/w ones but those are the only m/m. We also know the number. The spoilers are all w/w. it is true. Also these aren't from the black eagles as I've mentioned above.

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4 minutes ago, SockPuppet said:

Have all these screenshots and preview players only tried out the Black Eagles route? Is there any chance that supports are different depending on what house you chose?

 

3 minutes ago, Nio said:

My God the exaggeration and overreaction in here is way too much.

We dont even know if those are all the gay options. Thani even said some options are big spoilers. We need to wait and see post time skip stuff and even other houses options.

CALM DOWN AND WAIT. STOP WHINING.

These are from the title screen menu under "Extras," not from the reviewer's Black Eagles run. They're all the options, according to them.  

And "whining"? Please. It's an understandably major disappointment.

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Just now, Disclaimer said:

 

These are from the title screen menu under "Extras," not from the reviewer's Black Eagles run. They're all the options, according to them.  

And "whining"? Please. It's an understandably major disappointment.

So you choose to ignore the other points i made. Also, it means nothing that they are froom the title screen. They can still be the ones from the playthrough the player is going at that time.

What im trying to say is that dont go saying that its confirmed and that you have the truth cause is not, and we still have a lot to see. Its whining when people dont know the full story. Again, lets wait and see.

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9 minutes ago, Nio said:

This is NOT true, stop saying this stuff cause people would get a wrong idea.

One screenshot from the Eagles is not a confirmation for S supports to other houses, also, we "know" (from Leaks) that there are more S supports after the time skip.

It is, reviewers (you know, people have played the game) confirmed that there are 5 bi options for women and 3for men. And now we have pictures confirming that and showing us who those 3 are. What about that isn't clear? 

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2 minutes ago, EJ107 said:

It is, reviewers (you know, people have played the game) confirmed that there are 5 bi options for women and three for men. And now we have pictures confirming that. What about that isn't clear? 

That this is only pre time skip and we "know" post time skip we get more s supports AND some of them are spoilers.

 

Edit: Btw, we only saw one pic, one. Like calm down, we still have a LOT more to see.

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On one hand, the Non-Linhardt options shown so far are characters that wouldn't be out of place in a old-school Bara comic, but on the other they do feel like they both cater the same niche so I understand why folks are feeling disappointed by the lack of variety in the MLM options if that's the confirmed total...

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41 minutes ago, zuibangde said:

Honestly the choices for mlm are quite insulting. If you want to marry someone your age, your only choice is someone that looks like a girl already. If you want to marry someone more masculine, you have to marry someone that already have an established family previously and also be around your dad’s age.

Combine the fact that wlw gets 5 of the most popular female characters (among straight men), you cant help but think the gay options included in the game are  included to please the straight yuri fans first and not the lgbt community. The mlm options were just thrown in so that they can be ‘equal’.

Heavy sigh.

I mean, not to be "all video games appeal to the male gaze" but..

Really, the only audience members they seem to care about are the straight men. ALL the women are conventionally attractive, and though a lot of wlw will take advantage of this.. there's probably a lot of straight men who will too. The porn scene is gonna be huge.

Then, they toss the mlm some scraps, because apparently gay men aren't valuable audience members, and they have to do SOMETHING (it is 2019, after all!).

I mentioned earlier in the thread I believe, or maybe on twitter, but yuri is considered palatable, while yaoi is disgusting. And that's fucking annoying. I'm trying not to be too angry, but the more I think about it the angrier I get. IS and Nintendo and everyone else needs to do better.

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7 minutes ago, Nio said:

That this is only pre time skip and we "know" post time skip we get more s supports AND some of them are spoilers.

 

Edit: Btw, we only saw one pic, one. Like calm down, we still have a LOT more to see.

Why on earth would more male characters suddenly get an S rank after the timeskip? When all the women and three men have them before? It's incredibly obvious that isn't the case.

It's also more than just one image. 

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That seems pretty comprehensive to me...

 

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2 minutes ago, Nio said:

That this is only pre time skip and we "know" post time skip we get more s supports AND some of them are spoilers.

 

Edit: Btw, we only saw one pic, one. Like calm down, we still have a LOT more to see.

Except we don't know. The director even said that we met most if not all of the characters from the beginning. It seems that you're ignoring stuff yourself, since I've already told you that the reviewer pointed out that the spoiler S support info is only w/w. Also if there were other characters I'd assume we'd have a similar deal in supports where we see their silhouettes and their support levels. But no one has mentioned them.

also your supporting your argument purely based on rumors on thani. please pay attention to the actual info that's being shown

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4 minutes ago, EJ107 said:

Why on earth would more male characters suddenly get an S rank after the timeskip? When all the women and three men have them before? It's incredibly obvious that isn't the case.

It's also more than just one image. 

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That seems pretty comprehensive to me...

 

So one Pic, ONE tells the whole story. Why would it be different post time skip? Because the person that said that also preditced literally everything else

Btw, here is a pic, this PROVES that we can only support til B!

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🍆🦋🥑🍑🍿🤪

 

I don't care to see almost anything of this game before I buy, but this topic interests me.

 

4 minutes ago, nyainou said:

but yuri is considered palatable, while yaoi is disgusting.

But what of the supposed legions of yaoi-loving females in Japan who Nina is one of? Who buy yaoi by the stack off entire dedicated manga shelves?

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4 minutes ago, Nio said:

That this is only pre time skip and we "know" post time skip we get more s supports AND some of them are spoilers.

 

Edit: Btw, we only saw one pic, one. Like calm down, we still have a LOT more to see.

I think I understand what you mean. Honestly it depends on whether the reviewer accessed that menu pre or post timeskip (maybe someone can ask her directly). If she haven’t reached post timeskip yet when she accessed the support screen, there is a possibility of gay characters that are only available after the timeskip and those characters weren’t shown in the menu. It also depends on how they choose to present the support log in this game. Are the locked ones in silhouettes or are they just not shown completely?  Correct me if I’m wrong, but someone said that there will more characters after the time skip right?

I also wonder what Thani meant by gay options that are ‘spoilery’. Is she referring to currently unknown characters? I think the only characters she didn’t reveal as a potential gay option was Gilbert and idk how he may be a spoiler yet.

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1 minute ago, firewitch912 said:

Except we don't know. The director even said that we met most if not all of the characters from the beginning. It seems that you're ignoring stuff yourself, since I've already told you that the reviewer pointed out that the spoiler S support info is only w/w. Also if there were other characters I'd assume we'd have a similar deal in supports where we see their silhouettes and their support levels. But no one has mentioned them.

also your supporting your argument purely based on rumors on thani. please pay attention to the actual info that's being shown

So the info that is being shown.... Pre time skip. You say that like Thani hasnt literally predicted everything. You are making no sense.

Look, im not saying that i support this or that i wont be mad if this is true. Im saying you guys CANT base everything in literally 1/4 of the game. Lets just wait and see. I sound like the crazy person here cause im trying to make other people calm down and wait first.

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I count myself disappointed, but not at all surprised. Honestly, if it weren't for that one article throwing the flirty lines from Claude around that got my hopes up, I wouldn't feel so down. [[And, hey, Claude counts himself a schemer. I guess we all fell for the trap.]] I'm just kinda tired of settling for baby steps.

I'm at least willing to give the options a chance. [[And, hey, let's watch it with talking about Linhardt. Sure, he has long hair, but from what we've seen so far, he is NOT some sort of offensive campy stereotype: there's a lot to his character, and any "campiness" or "feminine" traits (besides his obsession with manners and cleanliness) are pretty minor. There's enough grief thrown at "feminine" gay guys in real life.]]

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Yeah people are flipping out way too much. We still have almost no info on post time skip stuff yet besides, if your primarily objective in this is about who you can s rank as a self insert instead of gameplay characters and story then u have your priorities wrong anyways. first and for most fire has always been a tactical/story RPG instead of a dating sim. Personally I'd rather have supports Go back to the pre Awakening support style with limited supports for each character and story canon ships.

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3 minutes ago, zuibangde said:

I think I understand what you mean. Honestly it depends on whether the reviewer accessed that menu pre or post timeskip (maybe someone can ask her directly). If she haven’t reached post timeskip yet when she accessed the support screen, there is a possibility of gay characters that are only available after the timeskip and those characters weren’t shown in the menu. It also depends on how they choose to present the support log in this game. Are the locked ones in silhouettes or are they just not shown completely?  Correct me if I’m wrong, but someone said that there will more characters after the time skip right?

I also wonder what Thani meant by gay options that are ‘spoilery’. Is she referring to currently unknown characters? I think the only characters she didn’t reveal as a potential gay option was Gilbert and idk how he may be a spoiler yet.

I cant answer most of those things cause we dont know them. Like, we cant decide whats true and what is not from one picture and info from people with only 20 hours into the game, one route.

Im just calling people to be patient. We would found out in a couple weeks and belive me, if we dont get any more gay options, i would riot with all the other people in here.

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10 minutes ago, Moonlit Knight said:

I count myself disappointed, but not at all surprised. Honestly, if it weren't for that one article throwing the flirty lines from Claude around that got my hopes up, I wouldn't feel so down. [[And, hey, Claude counts himself a schemer. I guess we all fell for the trap.]] I'm just kinda tired of settling for baby steps.

I'm at least willing to give the options a chance. [[And, hey, let's watch it with talking about Linhardt. Sure, he has long hair, but from what we've seen so far, he is NOT some sort of offensive campy stereotype: there's a lot to his character, and any "campiness" or "feminine" traits (besides his obsession with manners and cleanliness) are pretty minor. There's enough grief thrown at "feminine" gay guys in real life.]]

I'm a lot more angry at that reviewer and his article for being misleading and getting peoples hopes up than I am at IS. I was only expecting Linhardt, so id have been pleasantly surprised finding out that Alois is an option too, if that hadn't heavily implied that Claude was as well and shifted my expectations. 

Plastering flirty lines from Claude all over an article about the supports and LGBT stuff in the game is really skeevy when you know he's not actually a bi option. 

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9 minutes ago, Nio said:

I cant answer most of those things cause we dont know them. Like, we cant decide whats true and what is not from one picture and info from people with only 20 hours into the game, one route.

Im just calling people to be patient. We would found out in a couple weeks and belive me, if we dont get any more gay options, i would riot with all the other people in here.

I think there are many elements at play here that are causing this reaction. The whole mlm and wlw situation (unequal amount, the options available for both sides heavily differ in 'quality' appearance and age wise), the article earlier about how characters (specifically Claude) flirts with you etc. that is causing a lot of confusion/anger in people. Right now people just want to vent about it and I'm hoping it will calm down after a few days. I won't be surprised when the anger rises again when someone that played through the whole game explicitly confirms more info though.

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8 minutes ago, Nio said:

I cant answer most of those things cause we dont know them. Like, we cant decide whats true and what is not from one picture and info from people with only 20 hours into the game, one route.

Im just calling people to be patient. We would found out in a couple weeks and belive me, if we dont get any more gay options, i would riot with all the other people in here.

You know what? That's fair. There's a lot of the game we've yet to see and it'd be rash to be angry without seeing everything. I'm actually relieved Claude got debunked so quickly because it would've been much much MUCH worse if it persisted until the game's release and I would've been much more upset.

Now that my expectations are back to earth having crashed into the deepest depths of the Marianna Trench I can say, "eh". The most I can do is hope there are more options or that they do better next game.

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1 minute ago, zuibangde said:

I think there are many elements at play here that are causing this reaction. The whole mlm and wlw situation (unequal amount, the options available vary in 'quality' appearance and age wise), the article earlier about how characters (specifically Claude) flirts with you etc. that is causing a lot of confusion/anger in people. Right now people just want to vent about it and I'm hoping it will calm down after a few days. I won't be surprised when the anger rises again when someone that played through the whole game explicitly confirms more info though.

Agreed. This information isn't stopping me from considering this the best Fire Emblem game yet (and taking the 26th off from work *!*).

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4 minutes ago, Cyan1456 said:

You know what? That's fair. There's a lot of the game we've yet to see and it'd be rash to be angry without seeing everything. I'm actually relieved Claude got debunked so quickly because it would've been much much MUCH worse if it persisted until the game's release and I would've been much more upset.

Now that my expectations are back to earth having crashed into the deepest depths of the Marianna Trench I can say, "eh". The most I can do is hope there are more options or that they do better next game.

It's also possible that they'll add another option when they release the "new playable characters" DLC next year. But as usual, it's probably best not to get our hopes up. 

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2 minutes ago, EJ107 said:

It's also possible that they'll add another option when they release the "new playable characters" DLC next year. But as usual, it's probably best not to get our hopes up. 

Bold of you to assume that the  "new playable character" isn't going to Gilbert in a sexy swimsuit alt like all the fans are raving for!

But in all seriousness I don't know how to feel about having to wait an entire year for a new option, but if he's really appealing then I'll bite.

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So someone asked the reviewer who leaked the information if the support menu was accessed after post skip and who the 3 mlm options are. The reviewer replied with 'can't talk about spoilers' and then proceeded to tell who the three options are within the same reply. Anyone else finds that a bit suspicious? I'm mostly just confused about why she said she can't talk about spoilers and then proceeded to spoil who the three options are. This combined with Thani's comment about gay options being 'spoilery' is making me raise eyebrows. 

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