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6 minutes ago, NinjaMonkey said:

My point was that you've played the game before and should know that killing Ike is an alternate way of winning. Your surprise comes across to me as being manufactured in order to inject some excitement in to this thread, rather than being genuine surprise.

What, do you remember the exact details of the win conditions of every chapter of every game in the series you've played? I've forgotten plenty of things about these games. Hell, I struggle to remember some stuff about games I've already played in the marathon. I always remembered this as a defense mission. I didn't remember the Ike win condition.

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I actually like the Ranulf spoiling the Black Knight twist. It comes out of absolutely nowhere, but it's not stupid. Ranulf does have reason to figure out the twist having seen both fight, though coming to think of it, Ranulf would have only fought the Black Knight in canon in Bertram's chapter in Path of Radiance and he doesn't really have any reason to hold off on the information until this point unless he's just been mulling over it for some time. Would have been a bit better if the Black Knight appeared with Micaiah in this battle (coming to think of it, why isn't he? He must have freed Sephiran right now and this moment is the climax of Sephiran's plan, he'd obviously want an agent there overseeing things). Still, I like how it feels more like a realistic development rather that a choreographed plot twist. Things aren't always discovered at the most climactic time. And much like how it's no surprise that Lehran is Sephiran because he doesn't show up anywhere until you fight him, Zelgius being the Black Knight would have slowly become more obvious to the player as they approached the tower, so the twist was never going to hit like a hammer to begin with.

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23 minutes ago, Jotari said:

I actually like the Ranulf spoiling the Black Knight twist. It comes out of absolutely nowhere, but it's not stupid. Ranulf does have reason to figure out the twist having seen both fight, though coming to think of it, Ranulf would have only fought the Black Knight in canon in Bertram's chapter in Path of Radiance and he doesn't really have any reason to hold off on the information until this point unless he's just been mulling over it for some time.

He fought BK at the harbor "get on the boat" chapter where BK comes out of the house. It's a cutscene at the end.

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10 minutes ago, Alastor15243 said:

He fought BK at the harbor "get on the boat" chapter where BK comes out of the house. It's a cutscene at the end.

Oh yeah. So scratch that the only issue is why Ranulf didn't tell Ike when they were in Goldoa or something. Still the Black Knight showing up in this battle would have made far more sense for reasons unrelated to the reveal.

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Radiant Dawn Day 35: Chapter 4-P

Okay, “It's as though they have stepped into a vast and desolate monument to the war” is one hell of a creepy mental image. Great job with that line.

But as I remember what happens in the Silver Army, I have to wonder how exactly Naesala spent so much time around two herons, psychic people, mind, without ever feeling Naesala's immense sorrow about the blood pact he's under until this chapter. I'll have to see how that dialogue goes first.

Hmm... so we get a scene where the useful idiots of Begnion are resurrected by Ashera, and I have to wonder how much Lekain actually believes what he's saying here. Does he actually know even an inkling of the truth about the religion he's been using to gain power his whole life? Or is he just a hypocritical jackass who genuinely believes everything he's saying but also somehow thinks he is in perfect moral standing with the goddess?

...Fuck, now I have to grab the script to translate Leanne's lines again. What she says in this scene is probably vitally important.

...Okay, so that specific line wasn't really that important, nothing I couldn't have guessed from Naesala's line previously. But now Skrimir shows up to kill Naesala.

Oh man, Leanne is so sweet. Despite how fucked up it must sound to literally everyone else, her choice of the word “bully” to describe people attacking Naesala for committing genocide is... strangely adorable given her struggles to learn modern tongue and her knowledge of what's really going on.

Okay, so Naesala says “I wish you'd stop looking into my soul”, like Leanne's done it before, which makes me wonder why he was never asked about it. Now, I get that just knowing something in his life is causing him great pain isn't a whole lot to go on, but there was a point when Naesala was in good standing with both Leanne and Reyson, right? Surely they would've asked their good friend what was tearing him up inside if either of them knew? And if they did wind up asking... that brings up another point.

Like... is there literally any reason why Naesala wouldn't have been able to talk about the blood pact to his fellow bird laguz over all of these years? The reason Daein can't talk is because they “have spies everywhere”. Does the game mean to suggest that there are bird laguz loyal to the senate?

I just don't buy that at all.

But moving on...

Hahahaha. I love how after Leanne and Nealuchi try to give their lives to protect him, Naesala drags them out of the way and basically convinces Skrimir not to kill him by pointing out that Tibarn has the greater right to.

Anyway, we're at base now, so let's check out the info conversations.

I don't understand this conversation between Sanaki and Naesala. Sanaki apparently knows about the blood pact, and offered to explain it to the other laguz, but Naesala insists on taking the blame for it, and then Sanaki admires how he'd “carry the burden of [his] crime alone to protect [his] people”. Why exactly would his people be in danger if the rest of the laguz knew the truth about the blood pact? If he's talking about the pact triggering if he tells anyone, he's clearly decided that the stone world is enough of a motivation to betray the senate and fight beside the others, so why the fuck keep the secret now?

Hell, for that matter, why didn't the Dawn Brigade explain that yet?

No, fuck that, here's the real question: why isn't Lekain triggering the blood pact to kill the tiny number of Daein people who aren't stone, wiping out his enemies who are no longer under his control? Is the game suggesting that the pact will randomly select one of the stone people, just do nothing because they're stone, and still do nothing when they're brought back to flesh as long as the blood pact is destroyed by then?

...But I do like the second half of this talk, where Sanaki opens up about her fears about what exactly Micaiah might be, and what that means about her.

Okay, what the fuck is going on with this second info conversation? Apparently Micaiah finds the dead world's air agrees with her, that the overwhelming air of order feels nice. But I thought she had an affinity for chaos? Why did Yune like her so much if she's just as order-oriented as the herons?

We get a rexbolt, because Muston's actually willing to give us free shit to help us save the world (pity it couldn't be something more useful), and then we get some weird hint about hidden treasure from Skrimir that gives us a satori sign.

Anyway, I give 12k bonus exp to Jill, and she manages to cap everything but skill, so my concerns about her stats falling behind what she should have for her level and favoritism are finally gone. She'll promote next level she gets, but I'm gonna give her a master crown because why the fuck not? Makes no sense not using every last one of them since I can't sell them.

And Jill gets... more than the stereotypical tier 3 boosts! She gains +3 in strength and defense instead of 2!

Alright, I took celerity off Micaiah, meaning that since apparently our inventories are fused now by some magical ender chest bullshit they don't even bother to bring up or explain, I should be able to get celerity on Rafiel.

Let's see what the map's gonna be like before we make any purchases. I forget if this is the desert map or not.

...Speaking of geography... how exactly are we “splitting up” here? For some reason I remembered this part taking place in the west of Begnion, like the beginning of Part 3, where there was a lot of wide open space to travel through. But isn't there, like, only one opening into Begnion from where they are in Daein unless they're taking a massive and pointless detour across to the other side of that huge lake?

Nope, this isn't the desert map, this is the one where they're under attack in the town they're sleeping at.

...Damn it, Sanaki has four authority stars! Why can't she be the one leading this army!?

...Speaking of which, how the fuck is it that Micaiah, Priestess of Dawn, Leader of the Dawn Brigade, grand Stacy-Lady of charisma herself, doesn't have a single goddamned authority star? That's... starting to feel kind of ridiculous.

...Also, apparently there's a unique lion class for every playable lion, because the flavor text for the class starts with “Skrimir, heir to Gallia's throne”.

Anyway, doesn't look like we'll have much need for significant purchases for this map, but still, I think I'll go back and buy some shit just in case, because Muston being with this army might heavily influence just how much cool shit we can get from the armory. Aimee or the twins might not have as much nice stuff to sell there.

Alright, I didn't need much, since a lot of the cool shit is super expensive, but I did get one killing edge for Zihark in case he needs the help to take down a strong foe and I don't want to use the brave sword.

Man, Sothe's only level 4. That's... kind of hilarious. And he's gonna promote at the end of this chapter... hm... how much bonus experience do I get in the future... maybe I should splurge and get Sothe close to level 20 just so he isn't total dead weight later in the chapters where I have to bring him.

...It would cost a little under half my bonus exp... but I should still have enough to get Zihark to level 20/20, and that's what matters for the moment. After that, I just wanna get Micaiah close to level 20/20 maybe and also get Rafiel as high-level as possible, since he'll be my pick for the endgame. Anything I get after that will be used for rounding off tier 3 caps, which shouldn't be as important.

Well, as a result, Sothe capped strength, skill, speed, HP, and resistance. His defense is now 18, which... isn't great, but with his high speed and luck his evasion should be good enough that I don't need to worry about him in the final battle at least. Alright.

Oh nice! I just realized this also means that I have a thief strong enough to steal bolting! Hopefully I can manage that!

Alright, let's go.

As I alluded to before, we've got Sanaki now, and I wish units like her were more useful in this game, because her stat spread (super high magic, low speed and defense) could be really interesting if this were a game where it could actually work for her. I bet she could work wonders in Fates as a player phase unit and attack stance partner.

We've also got Skrimir, who's actually pretty badass for a laguz who doesn't have formshift, and Naesala, who... has formshift.

Awwww! Turns out smite doesn't have its own separate visual and sound effect anymore! Why's that?

Anyway, Aran and Jill are about as badass as I expected them to be, and it's only uphill from here.

I'm gonna want to forge a knife for Sothe for the tower. With that he might be able to one-round some things. Right now he's just here to be my fifth wall, since I'm kinda short on those due to my exp concentration. I'm also trying to give Micaiah and Sanaki as many kills as I can, though mostly Micaiah. I really wanna see what she can do when she's properly trained for the endgame. Especially since I've gotten so lucky with her growths.

I like the little twirl Micaiah does when she dodges. I guess I never noticed it because she's never been able to afford getting hit before.

I love how it's Part 4, I've been using Laura constantly, and she's still tier 1. This game really does staff users dirty.

Hey, I just realized something... doesn't the fact that this war set off the pact... kinda confirm that there's literally nothing beyond the desert other than Hatari? Queen Hatari was all it took to set off the medallion, after all.

...Which basically confirms that Lehran was the one who guided Rafiel to the desert, right? I mean, it sounds like what happened in PoR would have set off the medallion if the queen of Hatari had been there, which would suggest that Lehran didn't know that Hatari existed until after the events of the game, and this time he made sure to get her involved.

...Which would suggest that Hatari, despite seeming like an ass-pull, was... intentional? From the start?

That's... a bizarre thought.

I can't help but notice that the enemies here are almost exclusively physical. Is that deliberate? Well it certainly makes Aran and Jill more powerful, so looks like it was a good call to bring them here.

Jill is one-rounding with a hand axe with ease, but Aran struggles to do the same with a javelin. Hopefully some more strength levels will fix that.

So I just got Micaiah to level 12 and she's capped speed and resistance. I think that's a good sign that I should start BEXPing her, in the hopes that she gets some defense procs beyond her current 10. Man, holy shit, she's probably gonna cap luck before she even reaches Tier 3. That is completely insane. I wonder how good she'll be for the endgame? Fingers crossed!

...Man, having pass on a flier is fun. I just had Jill wade through a veritable sea of cavalry attacking her and Aran to take out the one longbowman in the group, then return to her spot at Aran's side so they can keep building supports.

I also noticed just in time that one of those cavalry was in range of Lethe, so I had her back away and join the eastern group. Aran and Jill are taking on the entire northern army.

Hahahaha! The boss's battle quote is so terrible it flips back around to being amazing.

Die! Die!”

That's all. He just runs in screaming that, brave sword in hand.

Anyway, I cleaned this up pretty brainlessly, and now we're done. And now we get the exposition of how Ashera blessed all of the enemies' weapons and armor to make them strong enough to stand up to our troops. Also, Yune has a pretty great line where she expresses pity for the enemy because they think they're the damned chosen ones, but they're just being used by a goddess who doesn't care about them at all.

Anyway, Sothe promotes, and he gets the standard bonuses, plus a new portrait. For some reason I always thought as a kid that the midriff top was exclusive to this outfit, but no, he had that before. But the midriff window is certainly a bit wider now. Not sure what that does for people who are into dudes, but as for me... hm. Well one one hand, it certainly could look goofier on other people than it does on him, but on the other hand... it still looks kinda goofy to me, and more importantly, he doesn't really strike me as the sort of person who would wear that. It's kinda like the male version of those infamous female characters who dress like strippers while having completely serious, all-business attitudes that don't match their manner of dress at all.

Except, y'know... all he's showing is his fucking navel.

Yeah, it's kinda hilarious that we're even discussing this. That outfit would be like, comically tame in terms of fanservice if it were on a girl, to the point that it would barely even qualify as fanservice at all, but the instant you slap that kind of top on a guy, it starts looking extremely questionable, despite the fact that it isn't really even showing anything. It's this really weird aspect of human sexuality. For some reason, when it comes to guys, showing your entire upper body is completely normal, but the second you wear something that exposes the midriff and only the midriff, suddenly questions get raised about who exactly you're trying to get the attention of.

The cape jacket part is cool though.

But anyway, we get a nice scene where Sanaki's concerns are silently coming to a head when she chickens out of talking to Micaiah yet again, and I'm looking forward to the payoff of this. I remember liking it.

And... that's the end of the chapter for today. And man, honestly... I'm starting to wish I played on hard, because really, since Part 3, most of this game has been ridiculously easy, and I'm starting to worry I'm not gonna be able to give this game a fair rating. But then again, considering how many stupid decisions the hard mode makes...

...Ugh. Well, it's too late now. I've already spent 35 days on this, I can't exactly mess around with hard mode now and make it even longer.

Stay safe, everyone.

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On 9/16/2020 at 10:02 AM, Alastor15243 said:

 

...Honestly, the sheer number of enemy units, and the fact that there are these AI battles between laguz on the sides, while they make it cool cinematically... it's a bitch and a half to replay the map and wade through this shit again. I'm glad I have my laptop handy by necessity so I can just do random shit while I wait for it to be my turn again.

I know the Tellius games get a lot of flak for their slow enemy phases (thanks in no small part to their slow animations, even map animations), but I think this is the first time its been a noteworthy inconvenience. To be fair a part of that is because you had to redo the map, and it might have been commented on earlier if you needed to reset more...

 

4 hours ago, Alastor15243 said:

 

No, fuck that, here's the real question: why isn't Lekain triggering the blood pact to kill the tiny number of Daein people who aren't stone, wiping out his enemies who are no longer under his control? Is the game suggesting that the pact will randomly select one of the stone people, just do nothing because they're stone, and still do nothing when they're brought back to flesh as long as the blood pact is destroyed by then?

The real answer is that the bloodpact was a lazy story point that the writer didn't care enough about to flesh out, but if I had to do the writers job and craft a theory as to why, I would add two things, first that there is some way of determining when specific people would die to the blood pact (this would also conveniently make Ashnard's use of the blood pact to secure the throne make a bit more sense as well), second is that there would be some cost/consequence to invoking the bloodpact on Lekain's end. If those two things were established already there could be a scene where Lekain considers it, but finds that it would take too long to kill off anyone important for the personal cost to him

 

4 hours ago, Alastor15243 said:

 

Okay, what the fuck is going on with this second info conversation? Apparently Micaiah finds the dead world's air agrees with her, that the overwhelming air of order feels nice. But I thought she had an affinity for chaos? Why did Yune like her so much if she's just as order-oriented as the herons?

I would speculate its for two reasons, first Micaiah reminds Yune of her other half, and second that those with an affinity for chaos tend to be overwhelmed by her presence (at least when she was in the medallion), and lash out with the overwhelming destructive kind of chaos that led to her drowning the world.

 

4 hours ago, Alastor15243 said:

 

...Damn it, Sanaki has four authority stars! Why can't she be the one leading this army!?

...Speaking of which, how the fuck is it that Micaiah, Priestess of Dawn, Leader of the Dawn Brigade, grand Stacy-Lady of charisma herself, doesn't have a single goddamned authority star? That's... starting to feel kind of ridiculous.

Of all the games that have Authority/Leadership stars, this has got to be by far the worst implementation of them.

 

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4 hours ago, Alastor15243 said:

Oh nice! I just realized this also means that I have a thief strong enough to steal bolting! Hopefully I can manage that!

Obligatory reminder that the last Bolting is in endgame, and the mage with it has nothing else.

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4 hours ago, Alastor15243 said:

Anyway, Sothe promotes, and he gets the standard bonuses, plus a new portrait. For some reason I always thought as a kid that the midriff top was exclusive to this outfit, but no, he had that before. But the midriff window is certainly a bit wider now. Not sure what that does for people who are into dudes, but as for me... hm. Well one one hand, it certainly could look goofier on other people than it does on him, but on the other hand... it still looks kinda goofy to me, and more importantly, he doesn't really strike me as the sort of person who would wear that. It's kinda like the male version of those infamous female characters who dress like strippers while having completely serious, all-business attitudes that don't match their manner of dress at all.

Sothe's old outfit is based on his PoR clothes, though not identical.:

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I'd like to think the idea was he's simply outgrown what he wore in the Mad King's War. No excuse for the midriff in the new outfit, unless all Yune's magic did was mutate the fabric he was wearing but let's not try to create a logic for promotions, otherwise we're left wondering where Eliwood's horse came from.

And regarding the promotion attire, in Japan, translated...

Micaiah:
“It really suits you. This costume.”

Sothe:
“Are you sure…?”

Micaiah:
“Mmm-hmm.”

Does Micaiah like male midriffs? No qualms with that, you can act like a saint and dress like one (or however you'd describe Micaiah's actions and personality), doesn't mean you can't have some eros. Why should casanovas and femme fatales have a monopoly on known lust in FE?

 

On a separate note, Ashera and Yune aren't called the Goddesses of Order and Chaos in Japanese. You can read about it here. The point is, the Japanese is difficult to translate, and the intent of the localization was to translate with the spirit of the Japanese- two goddesses who are of opposite traits, but which should be in harmony in oneself and the world at large.

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1 hour ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

And regarding the promotion attire, in Japan, translated...

Micaiah:
“It really suits you. This costume.”

Sothe:
“Are you sure…?”

Micaiah:
“Mmm-hmm.”

Does Micaiah like male midriffs? No qualms with that, you can act like a saint and dress like one (or however you'd describe Micaiah's actions and personality), doesn't mean you can't have some eros. Why should casanovas and femme fatales have a monopoly on known lust in FE?

Okay, that's pretty dang funny.

 

@Eltosian Kadath

  

1 hour ago, Eltosian Kadath said:

I know the Tellius games get a lot of flak for their slow enemy phases (thanks in no small part to their slow animations, even map animations), but I think this is the first time its been a noteworthy inconvenience. To be fair a part of that is because you had to redo the map, and it might have been commented on earlier if you needed to reset more...

True, but that's also because I'm used to multitasking, watching videos while I play stuff and the like. And I had stuff I could be writing while enemy phase was going on. Not sure how much that's skewing my perception.

 

@Shadow Mir Yep, I remember.

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10 hours ago, Alastor15243 said:

I'm gonna want to forge a knife for Sothe for the tower. With that he might be able to one-round some things. Right now he's just here to be my fifth wall, since I'm kinda short on those due to my exp concentration. I'm also trying to give Micaiah and Sanaki as many kills as I can, though mostly Micaiah. I really wanna see what she can do when she's properly trained for the endgame. Especially since I've gotten so lucky with her growths.

 

Do you mean a knife for throwing? Because don't forget that Volke's going to show up with Baselard just before the tower, which you can steal and put on Sothe. Unless you plan on actually using Volke (or if Sothe doesn't happen to have SS Rank in Knives, but in my experience weapon ranks have basically never been an issue in Radiant Dawn, unlike in Path of Radiance where they were something of a massive issue for mages).

5 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

Sothe's old outfit is based on his PoR clothes, though not identical.:

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I'd like to think the idea was he's simply outgrown what he wore in the Mad King's War. No excuse for the midriff in the new outfit, unless all Yune's magic did was mutate the fabric he was wearing but let's not try to create a logic for promotions, otherwise we're left wondering where Eliwood's horse came from.

 

I could see it as completely in character for Yune to alter Sothe's clothing to make him more sexy. Especially if it's in a way she can tell Micaiah finds appealing.

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5 minutes ago, Jotari said:

Do you mean a knife for throwing? Because don't forget that Volke's going to show up with Baselard just before the tower, which you can steal and put on Sothe. Unless you plan on actually using Volke (or if Sothe doesn't happen to have SS Rank in Knives, but in my experience weapon ranks have basically never been an issue in Radiant Dawn, unlike in Path of Radiance where they were something of a massive issue for mages).

Volke comes with the peshkatz, not the baselard. But noted.

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Just now, Alastor15243 said:

Volke comes with the peshkatz, not the baselard. But noted.

Huh? Oh yeah. I think the Baselard is found in the desert next Micaiah chapter then. It certainly pops up somewhere around part 4.

  

5 hours ago, Interdimensional Observer said:

On a separate note, Ashera and Yune aren't called the Goddesses of Order and Chaos in Japanese. You can read about it here. The point is, the Japanese is difficult to translate, and the intent of the localization was to translate with the spirit of the Japanese- two goddesses who are of opposite traits, but which should be in harmony in oneself and the world at large.

That's actually really, really interesting. And while the nuances of Japanese might be lost on me, I do really like the translation changes. Calling Ashera Positivity Icarnate just wouldn't really sit well. Chaos also ties in well to the idea of how Yune is released while also not assigning so much negativity to her. As the article said Dark and Light might have been the closest terms to use, but it would have felt so goddamn generic if they'd gone that route (and they'd already shot themselves in the foot by localising her as Dark God instead of Evil God in Path of Radiance).

 

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4 minutes ago, Jotari said:

That's actually really, really interesting. And while the nuances of Japanese might be lost on me, I do really like the translation changes. Calling Ashera Positivity Icarnate just wouldn't really sit well. Chaos also ties in well to the idea of how Yune is released while also not assigning so much negativity to her. As the article said Dark and Light might have been the closest terms to use, but it would have felt so goddamn generic if they'd gone that route (and they'd already shot themselves in the foot by localising her as Dark God instead of Evil God in Path of Radiance).

 

Agreed. It was a good call for translating it. It feels so natural despite being apparently a significant departure.

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Hey, I've got a question for my long-time readers... Of all the playlogs I've done so far, which was your favorite to read? When did I have the most interesting things to say?

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8 hours ago, Alastor15243 said:

Hey, I've got a question for my long-time readers... Of all the playlogs I've done so far, which was your favorite to read? When did I have the most interesting things to say?

Hmm. I think I might have liked Blazing Blade the best. We got a nice does of complaints in that one, but at the same time there was genuine nostalgic passion from you fighting for control. Seeing you realize the game you idolized just plain isn't as good as you want it to be was such sweet suffering to behold.

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