BAMX Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Hey, just wanted to mention your requirements for recruiting Felix appear to be incorrect. Your requirements say I should need C in Swords at B support to recruit him. But I'm at B support, and I was able to recruit him at D+ in Swords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, BAMX said: Hey, just wanted to mention your requirements for recruiting Felix appear to be incorrect. Your requirements say I should need C in Swords at B support to recruit him. But I'm at B support, and I was able to recruit him at D+ in Swords. Check your support level with him in the dining or choir menu. The main UI (via the X menu) only shows C B or A level supports, but there are hidden C+ and B+ support ranks. These ranks are invisible in that you get no notification when you reach them and they're not tied to any support conversations or any other mechanical bonuses. These are *not* the two-step support convos where there are little arrows above the letter, it's purely related to how many support points you have. Edited September 18, 2019 by Humanoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAMX Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, Humanoid said: Check your support level with him in the dining or choir menu. The main UI (via the X menu) only shows C B or A level supports, but there are hidden C+ and B+ support ranks. These ranks are invisible in that you get no notification when you reach them and they're not tied to any support conversations or any other mechanical bonuses. These are *not* the two-step support convos where there are little arrows above the letter, it's purely related to how many support points you have. I did. It's in the video I posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BAMX said: I did. It's in the video I posted. Whoops, silly me didn't even realise it was a video. I can't explain it. Wonder if the support ranks aren't actually checked in the code, in which case it might be comparing a target value versus raw support points (say, 1-100 or perhaps even a larger number) in the code and you're right on the cusp. Edited September 18, 2019 by Humanoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 I'm working on studying the Recruit thresholds to see what characters come out easiest, and I noticed that Dorothea, Felix and Ignatz have their thresholds negated- more accurately, reduced to less than what Byleth starts with- at B+ Rank using the rates given here on Serenes. (Also Caspar, but he's a special case.) Would I be right in guessing the game just ignores that and lets you get away with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentASM Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 Sorry for the late reply ^^;; @BAMX Thanks, I've corrected the table. Not sure why it's like that for his B support... @bethany81707 Essentially, it's a free pass. But if somebody hacked the game to lower Byleth's starting stats/skill levels, the game would probably complain if you didn't meet the requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Flower Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 It's worth noting that a higher support rank also reduces the level requirement for recruiting Church of Seiros members as well, and just like the students, having an A rank through NG+ allows you to recruit them without any requirements, as long as you're at the required chapter in the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethany81707 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 General Tips: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bpVSPRKTXjmQWvldgQiUT81ODS4GHtM1hPgE4FbUAuY Character-specific Tips: https://drive.google.com/open?id=188a31c_HDj4IF_jkSbxN0jBCnVjLdlJtq5QSD2zQi8s I would've shared these on Serenes sooner, but I've been the last to post in this topic until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayvee94 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Shamir is Recruitable normally on Black Eagles route even before the split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Do you need to complete the side story to unlock the characters in the main story? I got the message that I can recruit them in Part I after beating chapter 6, but do they stay till the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rea Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Spectrum said: Do you need to complete the side story to unlock the characters in the main story? I got the message that I can recruit them in Part I after beating chapter 6, but do they stay till the end? I believe so, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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